I encourage all new players to take a minute and look at this.

Hi guys, I'm relatively new to the game myself as well, but there is a useful piece of information that most people don't seem to realize.

If you find yourself doing a quest, or just finishing your "Hunting Log" and someone else tags the mob before you do, don't just turn around and walk away, as long as you still inflict at least 30% of the damage before it dies, you still get credit, exp as well.

During the last couple of phases, I noticed a lot of people who did not know this.
And no, I am not assuming, whenever I noticed someone walking away from my mob, I would personally take the time and pm them with this information.

So I figured that instead of keeping the trend, I would just make a post on the forums about it, and hopefully as many new players as possible would see this.

Kind of a lengthy post but I wanted to be thorough.

Do we get the same amount of exp as if we would kill it all by ourself though?

And to add to your post The Orange Juice is in a shop in Uldahl.

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Originally Posted by TheRoku

Do we get the same amount of exp as if we would kill it all by ourself though?

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by TheRoku

Do we get the same amount of exp as if we would kill it all by ourself though?

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Yes, and I believe that the 30% number probably even lower for fate mobs.

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Originally Posted by Arikaen

And to add to your post The Orange Juice is in a shop in Uldahl.

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lol. There's one in Limsa too in Hawker's Alley.

Personally, I often walk away from claimed mobs because I want drops, or simply wish to have the experience of killing the thing myself. I feel less accomplished if someone else did most of the killing.

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Originally Posted by TheRoku

Do we get the same amount of exp as if we would kill it all by ourself though?

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Yes, just no drops from the mob I believe.

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Originally Posted by TheRoku

Do we get the same amount of exp as if we would kill it all by ourself though?

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Not entirely sure, I believe you might, here is why.

In other mmorpgs, the amount of exp you get, corresponds the amount of damage you inflicted on it before it dies.
Ex: In WoW, if you tag the mob, but only inflict 10% of damage, while someone else does the other 90%, you only get 10% of the exp it would have other wise have given.

Now on FFXIV ARR on the other hand, given how it is necessary to do at least 30% and it to counts towards your quest, I assume that as long as you do 30%, you should get the whole amount, I would try this out and let you know for certain, but well... servers are down for another 14hours :P.

But the point of the post, was to raise awareness of sharing mobs when completing quests/hunting logs.

The amount of damage you have to do is either 20%, 25% or 30%. It's in that range, at any rate, and I say this as a caster who got frustrated trying to tag FATE mobs when everyone else was a pugilist or gladiator. In the 2.5 seconds it takes me to nuke a mob, so many players have already hit it, that getting the second cast necessary for credit wasn't possible.

So it's definitely in the 20% - 30% range, but not higher from what I saw, and not lower.

You do get full experience, and quest drops. Normal item drops, I'm not so sure.

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Originally Posted by BlossomRose

The amount of damage you have to do is either 20%, 25% or 30%. It's in that range, at any rate, and I say this as a caster who got frustrated trying to tag FATE mobs when everyone else was a pugilist or gladiator. In the 2.5 seconds it takes me to nuke a mob, so many players have already hit it, that getting the second cast necessary for credit wasn't possible.

So it's definitely in the 20% - 30% range, but not higher from what I saw, and not lower.

You do get full experience, and quest drops. Normal item drops, I'm not so sure.

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As mentioned you only get normal drops on mobs that are originally tagged by you. (the name will be red) and if you do enough damage.

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Originally Posted by Arikaen

And to add to your post The Orange Juice is in a shop in Uldahl.

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Originally Posted by FutanXIV

lol. There's one in Limsa too in Hawker's Alley.

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You can get 10?xOrange Juice as a reward from a sidequest; can't remember which one, though, but available at every starting city most likely - got one at Ul'dah on Beta Test Phase 3 and another one at Limsa Lominsa on Beta Test Phase 4.
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Note for newcomers: You need 1 Orange Juice in order to complete the sidequest that grants you the ability to dye gear. Once completed, you'll find the ability at Actions & Skills menu (General tab IIRC).

For fates...as a conj or acn....I didn't have thm up to try it but as long as I casted aero or I forget the acn dot and it at least proc one time then I would get credit for that fate. Many times I arrived right when the fate was ending and I only got 1 proc off and would still get silver/gold for that fate. I believe the monster still has to die for you to get credit though.

this is important for those wanting to level their second classes as learning to run large chains of mobs for xp as well as chaining as many fates as possible is important. Also for the conjurors out there you can chain heals out to your fates to also take advantage of this and get xp that way. very helpful since the cast time vs dmg a conjuror does is pitiful in fate situtions but the heals help counter that.

And for those that like the "solo" feeling good luck. the fastest experience besides the main storyline I found during beta was getting a group of 4 (tank, 2dps, heal) and keeping your xp chain bonus alive and hitting any fates that pop up nearby.

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Originally Posted by PeppeLepeu

over 1000 char.

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I got my acn and gld from 10-15 from just fates outside horizon. I stopped gld at 15 and got acn up to 20 from just those fates and while I was waiting for fates to appear I just started mining right outside and crafting ores. I got my carpenter up to 19 and blacksmith around 15 or so I believe from just those wait times.

fates are quite amazing at leveling you. ill probably end up doing a ton while I raise botany and lvl an archer but I just really want to get my scholar going first before I go back to craft.

Fates as a caster can be frustrating due to casting time. In beta 2 I didn't know about getting exp/credit off other players mobs till last couple of days. So I didn't do fates as casting time is so slow by time it casted mob was dead. Phase 3 and 4 I knew better and had fun doing them. Would cast any instant dot from conj or arcan tab to next mob cast again and continue this way. For some I could even run right up in middle of bunch of mobs and cast aoe depending on fate level. Higher level ones aoe can work lower the mobs die to fast. Only get bronze if I come at very end

as a thaum fates are easy just aoe the crap out of most of them. as my arcanist my carbuncle helped with most of it. healer until I started healing was a pain.

Is the 30% rule just when your solo and some one else jumps in or does it apply to parties also?

At least the good part of this system is that people can't annoy you calling KS, like other MMOs

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Originally Posted by Instigator

Is the 30% rule just when your solo and some one else jumps in or does it apply to parties also?

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Just solo. In groups, everyone gets credit and full xp.

Btw, probably obvious but this goes for harvest nodes as well... If you see someone come up and start chopping on your tree, they're not taking anything from you.

That is good to know as I like to help others but was unsure if i was hurting them in the process so i am glad that they made this change to how the system works. It is nice to help people kill a tough boss when you are passing by and I always appreciate it when people do the same for me.

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Originally Posted by Puck

Just solo. In groups, everyone gets credit and full xp.

Btw, probably obvious but this goes for harvest nodes as well... If you see someone come up and start chopping on your tree, they're not taking anything from you.

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All objects on the world are "instanced" to you. Quest items, gathering nodes... treasure chests, AFAIK. Not in dungeons though.

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Originally Posted by BlossomRose

All objects on the world are "instanced" to you. Quest items, gathering nodes... treasure chests, AFAIK. Not in dungeons though.

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Not sure about chests. I saw someone take a chest right in front me in Western La Noscea.

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Originally Posted by GurneyHalleck

Not sure about chests. I saw someone take a chest right in front me in Western La Noscea.

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Global chests must not be unique to you then. I know that leve chests are, at least.

When I get exp from an already claimed mob, I feel like I stole it from them and feel bad. So sometimes I just turn away.lol

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Originally Posted by WinterBreeze

When I get exp from an already claimed mob, I feel like I stole it from them and feel bad. So sometimes I just turn away.lol

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It's a die-hard habit from pretty much every MMORPG before this one, barring a rare few (Guild Wars 2, Neverwinter, etc). It took me a while to get used to it to, but once you do, you start jumping into random fights and things go much faster.

Its actually really easy for conjurers to get rewarded for FATEs. You do not only get rewarded for dealing damage but also for building emnity. So all you do is cast a few AOE heals and you pretty much have your Gold guaranteed, even easier than it is for dpsers.

I never seemed to have any issues getting gold as long as i showed up with at least half of the fate left. heck a couple i showed up to with like 10% to go and still got gold.