Omega is coming...

The artwork we are all familiar with:

http://i.imgur.com/ZQs1oYa.jpg


A scene taken from the latest trailer:

http://i.imgur.com/Xj79uyI.png

The Empire knows not what they are about to unleash...

it looks as big, as that tortoise in benchmark...

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Originally Posted by Radacci

it looks as big, as that tortoise in benchmark...

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Not even close.

I think it's nifty how they made Omega have a compact mode for transit haha.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

it looks as big, as that tortoise in benchmark...

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Far from it I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

it looks as big, as that tortoise in benchmark...

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Are you kidding? It dwarfs the size of those Juggernauts carrying it.

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Originally Posted by Inaaca

Are you kidding? It dwarfs the size of those Juggernauts carrying it.

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I take it you didn't see the Tortoise in the background of the Benchmark? It's about half the size of Gridania, and that's not hyperbole.

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Originally Posted by Hulan

I take it you didn't see the Tortoise in the background of the Benchmark? It's about half the size of Gridania, and that's not hyperbole.

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Eh? Apparently not.

Edit: You meant these? http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8172/turtleh.jpg

They look roughly Juggernaut-height, so the turtles and the supposed Omega weapon probably are close to the same size as each other.

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Originally Posted by Inaaca

Eh? Apparently not.

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It's partially visible between the trees about 1/2-2/3 the way through the benchmark. First day a lot of people had some really funny responses because it's kind of hard to see at first, but once you see it you're like: "Holy crap!"

of course! omega! I've been dying to know what that thing is and that seems like a good answer. Ill take it!

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Originally Posted by Alerith

The artwork we are all familiar with:

http://i.imgur.com/ZQs1oYa.jpg


A scene taken from the latest trailer:

http://i.imgur.com/Xj79uyI.png

The Empire knows not what they are about to unleash...

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If we don't do something to stop the Empire from waking that thing up, we're boned. Literally and metaphorically boned.

Gaius is calling in the big dog to deal with Eorzea. Omega/Ultima weapon is perfect for combating Beastmen Primals and the armies of the Eorzean Alliance. But luckily we're returning to the world, what better way to combat a Weapon with a Lalafell Paladin. B)

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

Gaius is calling in the big dog to deal with Eorzea. Omega/Ultima weapon is perfect for combating Beastmen Primals and the armies of the Eorzean Alliance. But luckily we're returning to the world, what better way to combat a Weapon with a Lalafell Paladin. B)

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... By throwing the Lala at it, shouting "Here boy! Have a snack!". That way we can distract it and call a meteor shower on its bottom! /grin

I thought it was Ultima Weapon? Omega has traditionally looked kinda like a spider or something, except with half as many legs.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

I thought it was Ultima Weapon? Omega has traditionally looked kinda like a spider or something, except with half as many legs.

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Beat me to it.

Omega is a robotic spider-like creature in every FF except VIII and X (maybe another, but I think that's it)

Also, it's missing its head...

Gaiiius~

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Originally Posted by Fantasia

Also, it's missing its head...

Gaiiius~

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0_0!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Akubikumo

0_0!!!!!!!

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This has been widely speculated for a long, looong time xD Sorry, haha

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Originally Posted by Pofo

Not even close.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Far from it I'm afraid.

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did you see the juggernauts?
in 1.0 you *fight* one, and you just see a bit of their legs.
When they carry Omega there...there's 3 of them, and they look tiny.
Tortoise isn't half the size of gridania :) it's just about as tall as some of the bigger trees.
Omega is bigger than the 3 juggernauts combined.
so even if it's not bigger, or as big as the tortoise, it's certainly close.
i'm guessing they made it that big, in response to, that people wanted that big FATEs/bosses, in the game.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

did you see the juggernauts?
in 1.0 you *fight* one, and you just see a bit of their legs.
When they carry Omega there...there's 3 of them, and they look tiny.
Tortoise isn't half the size of gridania :) it's just about as tall as some of the bigger trees.
Omega is bigger than the 3 juggernauts combined.
so even if it's not bigger, or as big as the tortoise, it's certainly close.
i'm guessing they made it that big, in response to, that people wanted that big FATEs/bosses, in the game.

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You must be talking about a totally different tortoise, because the one they are referencing was so huge, it was far in the background and still dwarfed everything in the zone.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

You must be talking about a totally different tortoise, because the one they are referencing was so huge, it was far in the background and still dwarfed everything in the zone.

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i know which one you mean, i know it's big, but not NERDGASM colossal.
Juggernauts are easily as tall.

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Originally Posted by Aldora

... By throwing the Lala at it, shouting "Here boy! Have a snack!". That way we can distract it and call a meteor shower on its bottom! /grin

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hey hey hey, it still counts. Equal rewards~ Just give me a Raise before everyone leaves the instance.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

I thought it was Ultima Weapon? Omega has traditionally looked kinda like a spider or something, except with half as many legs.

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Yup. FF7 design as basis.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...IsfM0S0mx8rjhT

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Originally Posted by Alerith

You must be talking about a totally different tortoise, because the one they are referencing was so huge, it was far in the background and still dwarfed everything in the zone.

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There are two of them, and Juggernauts are easily as tall. If anything, those adamantoise are close to the size of the supposed Omega weapon, and Omega is probably bigger.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8172/turtleh.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...ppE345o#t=181s

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Originally Posted by Inaaca

Eh? Apparently not.

Edit: You meant these? http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8172/turtleh.jpg

They look roughly Juggernaut-height, so the turtles and the supposed Omega weapon probably are close to the same size as each other.

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They said the turtle was made just for the benchmark, but that'd be cool to have an enemy that size.

I wonder if the Empire used some Allagan technology to stop Bahamut...? Seems they have the capability of controlling massively powerful beings....

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

I wonder if the Empire used some Allagan technology to stop Bahamut...? Seems they have the capability of controlling massively powerful beings....

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That's a pretty good theory. Could be why they showed Bahamut with the weird glowing stuff on his head. Makes him easier to control so he doesn't destroy everything because he can.

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Originally Posted by Inaaca

There are two of them, and Juggernauts are easily as tall. If anything, those adamantoise are close to the size of the supposed Omega weapon, and Omega is probably bigger.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8172/turtleh.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...ppE345o#t=181s

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We both must have exceedingly different senses of perception, because while the Juggernaut in the 1.0 mission was indeed big, it would still be dwarfed by that adamantoise....

http://i.imgur.com/587r749.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eXowa0o.jpg

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Originally Posted by Alerith

We both must have exceedingly different senses of perception, because while the Juggernaut in the 1.0 mission was indeed big, it would still be dwarfed by that adamantoise....

http://i.imgur.com/587r749.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eXowa0o.jpg

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Man looking at that Juggernaut and then the pic of Omega.. wow. He's going to be a big for sure.

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

I wonder if the Empire used some Allagan technology to stop Bahamut...? Seems they have the capability of controlling massively powerful beings....

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Highly doubt it, but it could be an option. Gaius would have no reason to stop Bahamut when Bahamut would simply destroy the city-states..now maybe he was merciful and wanted to do the conquering himself but I doubt it. It's either Louisoix's Plan C (Plan B being the one to send us into stasis to save us) or something 'supernatural.'

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

Highly doubt it, but it could be an option. Gaius would have no reason to stop Bahamut when Bahamut would simply destroy the city-states..now maybe he was merciful and wanted to do the conquering himself but I doubt it. It's either Louisoix's Plan C (Plan B being the one to send us into stasis to save us) or something 'supernatural.'

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Tragically, I think it would be his Plan D in that case...

Plan A: Kill Nael and stop Dalamud's descent.
Plan B: Summon the Twelve
Plan C: Send players into the future.
Plan D: Sacrifice self to stop Bahamut

Hope he never had to use Preparation H.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

We both must have exceedingly different senses of perception, because while the Juggernaut in the 1.0 mission was indeed big, it would still be dwarfed by that adamantoise....

http://i.imgur.com/587r749.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eXowa0o.jpg

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By sheer mass, yes, the adamantoise is bigger, but they're not far in terms of height. The same goes for Omega. They both dwarf Juggernauts in size. That's my point. They're similar in size.

http://i.imgur.com/Xj79uyI.png

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Originally Posted by Inaaca

By sheer mass, yes, the adamantoise is bigger, but they're not far in terms of height. The same goes for Omega. They both dwarf Juggernauts in size. That's my point. They're similar in size.

http://i.imgur.com/Xj79uyI.png

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Agh....I'm truly not trying to be argumentative. I just really don't see it.

Now I agree that Omega far exceeds the size of the Juggernauts, and I'd even be willing to conceded that the juggernauts probably comes up to the head of the adamantoise, thus making Omega a bit taller than its head, but I severely doubt that the juggernauts nor Omega would even be able to scratch the topmost surface of its shell.

I'm wondering what will happen if Gaius decides to unleash Ultima as a counter to Bahamut but then loses control of it... what then?

• Gaius: "You there... Warrior of Light... my Ultima pet has gone AWOL. Go fetch it for me."
• Warrior of Light: "Nope... your pet, your problem"
• Gaius: "I will give you my Gunblade and Projectile weapon gauntlet as reward"
• Warrior of Light: "Done"

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

• Gaius: "You there... Warrior of Light... my Ultima pet has gone AWOL. Go fetch it for me."
• Warrior of Light: "Nope... your pet, your problem"
• Gaius: "I will give you my Gunblade and Projectile weapon gauntlet as reward"
• Warrior of Light: "Done"

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This absolutely needs to be canon.

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Originally Posted by Hulan

This absolutely needs to be canon.

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Or... Cannon? :3

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

Highly doubt it, but it could be an option. Gaius would have no reason to stop Bahamut when Bahamut would simply destroy the city-states..now maybe he was merciful and wanted to do the conquering himself but I doubt it. It's either Louisoix's Plan C (Plan B being the one to send us into stasis to save us) or something 'supernatural.'

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Well. Bahamut was stored in Dalamud for some odd reason. My guess is Bahamut is sort of a loose cannon. A wildcard. People obviously didn't want him loose or they wouldn't have trapped him in space in a giant prison. Gaius (and the empire) have a motive to save the world so they can control it (steal crystals power or something, I don't know). So assuming there is some link between the Empire and Allagan, my guess is the empire stopped Bahamut because he was going ape, and rolled out Omega/Ultima because they have control over it, and therefore can control the defeat of the 3 nations and the beastman and whoever else stands in their way.

Make any sense?


P.S. AND it kinda makes sense when you consider the different tactics between Gauis and Nael. Nael is crazy so he homicidally calls down Bahamut. Where Gauis is more calculated. More sane. He is going the Omega/Ultima route...I think it jives with the current personalities of these characters.

First i thought it is atomos lol^^

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

my guess is the empire stopped Bahamut because he was going ape

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I seriously doubt that the Empire has the power to make Bahamut vanish instantly in a flash of light. They could never control him properly, and if they did have the power to control him, Garlemald would have been victorious long ago.

I think it's more likely that a higher power is at work here. Nothing we knew of in 1.0 could put a scratch on him, not even the Twelve. My current bet is that Odin has something to do with it, being the only other existing Elder Primal.

It make is seem like, Omega was found somewhere.........

Nael van.....nvm

Dont forget...

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joy...2/09/ffxiv.jpg

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Well. Bahamut was stored in Dalamud for some odd reason. My guess is Bahamut is sort of a loose cannon. A wildcard. People obviously didn't want him loose or they wouldn't have trapped him in space in a giant prison. Gaius (and the empire) have a motive to save the world so they can control it (steal crystals power or something, I don't know). So assuming there is some link between the Empire and Allagan, my guess is the empire stopped Bahamut because he was going ape, and rolled out Omega/Ultima because they have control over it, and therefore can control the defeat of the 3 nations and the beastman and whoever else stands in their way.

Make any sense?


P.S. AND it kinda makes sense when you consider the different tactics between Gauis and Nael. Nael is crazy so he homicidally calls down Bahamut. Where Gauis is more calculated. More sane. He is going the Omega/Ultima route...I think it jives with the current personalities of these characters.

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We don't know why the Allagans sealed Bahamut away and sent him into orbit, but the easiest answer for this is: The furthest he's away from the Eorzea, the less likely he can absorb aether and become stronger. I suspect the Lunar Transmitter (which is based on Allagan tech) was reverse engineered to instead of push Dalamud into it's orbit with the larger moon, to bring it back into the gravitational pull of Hydaelyn and ultimately closer with the Lunar Transmitter at Castrum Novum.

I wouldn't call the Garlean war on Primals as saving the world. Garlean magitek weaponry is based on Ceruleum, which is highly concentrated-refined aether (a major reason why Midgardsormr was killed in the explosion with the Agrias, the Ceruleum engines). Primals and their aether consumption go against the Garleans their need for aether to be used in their weaponry. Of course all this is assuming that Primals in other parts of the world are summoned in similar ways (I'd guess they are). Eorzea may be the strongest source of aether on the planet but I'd assume the aether flower of the planet has it's major rivers and tiny tributaries all around the planet...thus giving the Primals a source of 'life' in the other parts of the planet to be appear/be summoned.

Gaius was on a ship watching the Battle of Cartaneau Flats and I highly doubt he knew what was in Dalamud, but he might have had his suspicions. He was too far away to make an impact on Bahamut when the "Blinding White Light" appears. Sadly we won't know what happened after we were teleported away until we log in and see the CS for the first time. But it's most likely not Garlean involvement. After all Gaius was under no obligation to help the VIIth Legion escape their fate with Bahamut...the VIIth Legion was comprised almost entirely by brainwashed Ala Mhigans. The Garleans essentially only lost Ala Mhigans and magitek weaponry. Even though Nael van Darnus was lost prior.

With the arrival of the Elder Primals (not saying Odin was the one to stop Bahamut and not saying it wasn't) Gaius is bringing in the "big dog," Ultima Weapon...which of course I'm sure will be aptly named. The Garleans know what they're doing and know how to deal with the Primals, Nael van Darnus was happy to sit back and let us defeat them so he could harness the aether for Dalamud/Bahamut...Gaius isn't sitting around. He's now backed by 3 more Legatus (probably Legatus but we don't actually know for sure) and Ultima Weapon, along with his highly trained XIVth Legion comprised of Garlean troops and magitek weaponry...whom also still hold Ala Mhigo hostage. Gaius is also the most loyal to the Emperor (having killed 8 or so would be usurpers for Solus Zos Galvus) and it's his turn to deal with the city-states, Primals, and the traitors of the Garlond Ironworks.