I WANT RACE BONUS REINTRODUCTION IN ARR!

Please please make my female Rogadyn a real she beast!!!

I have to agree with this. Make the lala the bestest blm ^^

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well this time make falafel have + 10 more charm and - 10 int :) lol :p and mantras - 20 dex and + 10 cleavage

It existed in 1.0 so it probably will exist in ARR in some way.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

It existed in 1.0 so it probably will exist in ARR in some way.

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It was so minisule that it didn't matter, though. The whole premise of this game was to be whatever race you wanted, and play whatever class you wanted at any time. The bonuses were never more than a +1 INT for Dunsfolk Lalafell or something like that.

That said, I'd rather things stay this way. Also, stop beating the dead horse already.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

Also, stop beating the dead horse already.

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Please?
http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/up...dead-horse.gif

I'm starting to feel like this person is a troll, but I'm willing to see him as just a new forum user for now (seeing how he has close to no posts yet):

Dear junebug,
in the upper right corner of this forum is a search function you can use to search for a certain topic before you start a new thread. Most topics have been discussed to death already and people get easily annoyed if they are brought up again and again by people who are too lazy to use the search function :)

The general feedback to the topic of race bonus was that most people liked it the way it was in FFXIV 1.0 - very slight differences, like 1 INT more or less than other races, so that everyone can be any class they like without restrictions.
(Of course there were a few people who'd like it better the FFXI way, but they were only a few).

my LS has me being blm, don't nerf me bro

I feel like Racial bonuses kill the whole theme of anybody being able to do anything. In 11 I wanted to be a Taru but I wanted to try melee classes among magic classes, so I felt like I had to choose Hume just because of the racial bonuses. If I have to choose a race again based off end game stats again then I'd be beyond annoyed

Shut up. Seriously.

RACE BONUSES ALREADY EXISTED IN 1.0!!!!!ONE!!1!!ONE!

But thankfully the differences were too insignificant to matter.

please stay that way too, i do not like this whole *Only this race is superior in this job because of this and this* COME ON!

very good point but i have to say it was hella fun playing war and rng on my taru in ffxi but wth did they give more charm start to humes when clearly the taru was the true BST! o and yes i haven't started many threads so thats for the help :) that being said it still like a slight advantage disadvantage with the differnt races in ARR

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very good point but i have to say it was hella fun playing war and rng on my taru in ffxi but wth did they give more charm start to humes when clearly the taru was the true BST! o and yes i haven't started many threads so thats for the help :) that being said it still like a slight advantage disadvantage with the differnt races in ARR

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I didn't understand a word you said.

Throwing in a nope. Forcing people to play a certain way is the easiest way to alienate a big portion of the playerbase.

hell thats fine with me only like a 1-2 + to a stat any is better than nothing to me also u are correct in ass u me ing I Am in fact a lvl 3000 King trolls with tonberrie childrens who only started humm say 2 post and 7 total post? lol sorry i dont live on ff forums as my troll boss will not let me >.>. but yea even so its a great topic still very relevant

Throwing in my Nope too.

I hated this in XI, here I like being able to pick my race based on aesthetics - not what class I want to main.

Yeah, I'm gonna go with a big NEWP on this one too.

All it did was promote unnecessary racism toward virtual characters. "Oh, you're a [insert race]? You're a terrible [insert class]. Go play as [insert class] instead."

By people saying race bonuses existed in 1.0, don't you mean how stat allocation was different early on but eventually became the same as you reached higher levels?

Anyway, I vote no. Especially for those that min-max stats, having a small nerf, no matter how miniscule, will pretty much annoy them.

Don't make me spam my gifs.

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Please please make my female Rogadyn a real she beast!!!

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*gasp*
You mean female Roegady is not a she?!?!?!?!

Man falling off a cliff my no. 1 favorite form of the word No.

NOOOOOOOOooooooooooo...........*splat*

No because the only point of that is when you playing a game that you need other char to level a class. Seeing how one char level everything it's not needed in FFXIV. Why they never change that in FFXI is anyone guess but thank god it not added in ffxiv as bad as it was in ffxi.

I see no reason to add limitations by race. It was sorta pointless in XI as well. One of the games greatest strengths is being able to do everything without an alt, keeping every class on an even playing field fits that model.

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I see no reason to add limitations by race. It was sorta pointless in XI as well. One of the games greatest strengths is being able to do everything without an alt, keeping every class on an even playing field fits that model.

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I'm inclined to agree, the difference in stats amongst races in FFXI really gave some jobs a very undeserving edge or disability just for being a certain race, which imo hurt the mechanics especially given that certain stats are more valued than others. For example, a Taru PLD would likely last a bit longer solo than a Galka PLD due to the Taru's obscene MP pool, even if the difference is only a few hundred MP, that MP could equal a few thousand HP recovered versus the 300-400 extra HP a Galka might have over the Taru.

Now just think of all the implications it would have towards endgame events pre-ARR like 1.0's Garuda, it would be obvious Lallafells would have an overbearing advantage when it came to the BLM zergs, yet a regimine of Galka MNK's/DRG's might destroy competition on things like Miser's Mistress, your entire performance might make or break a run solely on your race. I'd rather not run into such situations especially where they have been trying hard to keep racial differences and jobs as close to possible in performance so skill and gear is a more dependent factor than racial stats.

(And yes I realize I may be exaggerating my point a bit.)

I wouldn't want the race bonuses. Since as previous posters have stated this is all about being who you wanna be and still having an equal chance at anything (if that makes sense)

I wouldnt mind one itty-bitty passive that has more to do with other elements than combat. Like some kind of movement speed boost for Mi'qote during the day or night depending on their clan. Ya know small stuff like that.

I want you to throw away your caps lock button...but it ain't gonna happen...

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Yeah, I'm gonna go with a big NEWP on this one too.

All it did was promote unnecessary racism toward virtual characters. "Oh, you're a [insert race]? You're a terrible [insert class]. Go play as [insert class] instead."

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"Oh you want to Monk or Dragoon in this content? Nope BLACK MAGE!" Suffice to say, this already happened in FFXIV.

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I wouldnt mind one itty-bitty passive that has more to do with other elements than combat. Like some kind of movement speed boost for Mi'qote during the day or night depending on their clan. Ya know small stuff like that.

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Sadly, this is the only community that would argue against this even though other MMOs can implement racial/class bonuses of some kind without complaint :\

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I wouldnt mind one itty-bitty passive that has more to do with other elements than combat. Like some kind of movement speed boost for Mi'qote during the day or night depending on their clan. Ya know small stuff like that.

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This is an idea I like! A little race-specific something that wouldn't be game-breaking but still something to set you apart from the others.
Something like a mini critical attack chance+ for Rogaedyn during a certain time of the day, maybe a mini defense boost for elezen?

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This is an idea I like! A little race-specific something that wouldn't be game-breaking but still something to set you apart from the others.
Something like a mini critical attack chance+ for Rogaedyn during a certain time of the day, maybe a mini defense boost for elezen?

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It'd be like in FFXI aside from starter stats, Mithra and Galka could eat raw meats that the rest of the race couldn't naturally and gain stats from them much like Elvaans gained boosted stats from Sandorian based Tea foods, so translated to XIV, it'd pretty much be that type of racial bonus that, so something "small" you won't really notice past a certain level range, much like in XI you didn't notice the "superiority" at end-game because I've seen my fair share of lazy as Taru mages and amazing Galka mages xD.

I want people to stop posting the same 5 threads over and over!

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It'd be like in FFXI aside from starter stats, Mithra and Galka could eat raw meats that the rest of the race couldn't naturally and gain stats from them much like Elvaans gained boosted stats from Sandorian based Tea foods, so translated to XIV, it'd pretty much be that type of racial bonus that, so something "small" you won't really notice past a certain level range, much like in XI you didn't notice the "superiority" at end-game because I've seen my fair share of lazy as Taru mages and amazing Galka mages xD.

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I like your idea with the food, I totally forgot about those little bonuses! haha, it's been a while since I got my feet wet with XI's waters. (on re-read... that sounds kinda odd)

and just a side note, but seriously. as a galka myself- anyone who says you 'don't notice the difference' between taru and galka blms are out of their god damned minds. the difference is absolutely massive.

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and just a side note, but seriously. as a galka myself- anyone who says you 'don't notice the difference' between taru and galka blms are out of their god damned minds. the difference is absolutely massive.

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So true lol ;~;

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and just a side note, but seriously. as a galka myself- anyone who says you 'don't notice the difference' between taru and galka blms are out of their god damned minds. the difference is absolutely massive.

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So true lol ;~;

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I agree, but skill (and merits) also made a big difference. I knew a veteran Galka BLM in XI who could blow away a lot of the Taru BLMs I encountered. I mean, I could argue that a taru with the same gear/merits/player would be that much better, but the fact is they'd also be dead if the tank died and they were next in the hate list, whereas a galka could probably sustain a hit or two. It wasn't all bad.

Still, I think the much-more-level playing field that we had at XIV launch was much, much better.

Throwing in a nope as well, it was those sort of bonuses in FFXI that made it hard to really be any class you wanted to be. I mean you might well be an amazing taru warrior and your friends might know that. However the person who doesn't know you will assume your a horrible warrior cause your a Taru.

I also don't believe special racial things should be in stats or items that add stats. It should be something like emotes,mounts,clothing and gear. All stuff that at the end of the day that shows your racial allegiance and pride but doesn't nerf or buff you in the process.

Ey no thanks. I dont want to become the highest DEX race, only really good for THF, ever again. Things are better off balanced.

I plead to the 12. Please please. No +cleavage. I don't want to see the younger teen players running around screaming... BOOBIES

PS Taru PLD's and wars were smexy.