Good day fellow community members! :) I recently kicked back and enjoyed the latest game play video, which showcased the outstanding battle system, quest system, and battle animations.
I couldn't help but be dragged into the action, by the new battle score that rang heroically, over the combat. It was then I got to thinking...what ever happened to the classic baseline that was used as the template, for the battle themes in Final Fantasy 1 through 6, as well in Final Fantasy 9?
You know the one... dunna dunna dunna dunna -- dunna dunna dunna dunna! (No this is not the Jaws Theme~)
I do realize that the score for the commercial release of the game, very well may be set in stone, though I can't help but feel how much Final Fantasy 14, could benefit form this subtle, but extremely iconic addition to the OST of the game. Nobuo Uematsu, would you consider doing a rendition of a battle theme in one of the areas that utilizes this baseline once again? I would be eternally grateful.
I know I'm just one person, but I just wanted to express my desire to hear this once again. With the way music has evolved in the series to date, performing this now, could be a really nice return home! :D
Below are a few links to the baseline, in question.
Final Fantasy One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDBa_eLlW0
Final Fantasy Two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8TdhrqIc9c
Final Fantasy Five: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8jL8PdobDA
Thank you all for your time in entertaining my suggestion.
Bring back the Bass
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12-09-2012, 03:50 AMSinclaireBring back the Bass
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12-09-2012, 03:57 AMKagatoSorry, I don't know the one. Can you elaborate with more "dunna?" Typing a beat works oh so effortlessly well after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinclaire
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12-09-2012, 04:01 AMSinclaire
I included some links to videos on YouTube, to help those that don't get what I am trying to convey. For those that are also unknowing all together. The links are under the main post. The baseline can be heard withing the first 10 seconds of each song. I hope this helps out a little bit.
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12-09-2012, 04:06 AMGokulo
While I don't want to bring your idea down :p I remember one thing I've heard somewhere not long ago:
"Nowadays players think that if you just slap some bass on the song it makes it 'epic'" :p -
12-09-2012, 04:12 AMGenjuro
Lol, you need THIS one.
:od it's the bestest! -
12-09-2012, 04:15 AMSinclaire
It isn't base in its literal sense. I suppose I'm not doing a very good job of getting across what I am referring to very well. My title on the thread may be the main problem. Got people listening out for bass.
I suppose its more of a cadence or rhythm section. My music terminology isn't the best to get this over clearly, which is why I included to links to the videos. -
12-09-2012, 09:51 AMDannythmYesterday I just finished replaying FF1, in an emulator (as my nes no longer works, but I did it the old way, no speeding, no savestates, no game-genie), and the music really is superb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gokulo
I'm with FF2, and I'm astonished to remember that so many mechanics that we now days consider "breaking news" for modern RPG's were all present between FF1 and FF2, 25 years ago.
Square, you rock, I will support you until the end (and I hope to work with you guys someday I am brave enough to send a CV).
I get you and I agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinclaire
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12-09-2012, 10:25 AMAndrien
I agree, I think it would be pretty cool. Its good fan service too.
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12-09-2012, 10:49 AMChiefCurrahee
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12-09-2012, 10:58 AMNaraku_Diabolos
I think if the must is more orchestrated, it is more immersive. That's how I see it. Not everyone likes "bass." A lot of people, like me, think it's nothing but noise that's trying to be a melody.
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12-09-2012, 11:37 AMEphemeral_Nights
tl;dr video 1, the portion of the song between 0:01-0:04
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12-10-2012, 01:39 AMSinclaireThe time frame listed above. That is what to listen to. It is constant underlay, for the Battle Themes, from Final Fantasy I - VI. My use of the word bass , has seem to derailed what I was attempting to point out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ephemeral_Nights
I'm not looking for bass, to become an addition to the music in the series, or to make a return. I'd just like the intro, if you will, that sets up the classic battle themes to make a return. -
12-10-2012, 02:39 PMCrimenI know exactly what you mean. I've always loved that bass sound used for the begining of various FF battle themes. It's become such an iconic sound that whenever I'd hear it I'd instantly get pumped up and remember all the great times I had playing the old games. I would even dare to say that it's almost as iconic as the FF victory fanfare. Only that it hasn't carried on in the latest FF games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinclaire
Yeah, I believe it is bass, since it's a low frequency sound, for those who kept referring to only the drum n' bass/ dubstep music. A lot of other genres use it: rock, jazz, classical, etc. It's the very base for many musical compositions. It's one of the most subtle of sounds in certain musical works, that without it, just wouldn't work out.
But anyway back on topic, I would love to hear a new modern take on this, specially an orchestrated version. I can imagine they'd use the cello to use that bass sound we love so much.
Annnd as a bonus for those who DO like a nice bass drop in electronica, here's a nice use of that bass in a FF battle theme dubstep remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2A-bwpBJR0 -
12-10-2012, 03:24 PMEndemerrin
Yes.
HOWEVER
It should be something sparse. I'd melt into a pool of fanboyness if they took some of the old classic battle themes and mixed them together into some awesome orchestrated piece for the final fight with Bahamut. Something that was glaringly final fantasy when the music started up.
That'd be just peachy. -
12-10-2012, 03:41 PMRamen
Caravan Escort type? (all drums)
or Promise of Plunder?
all no? they are pretty bass to me :O -
12-10-2012, 03:43 PMNix
You asked for it.
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12-10-2012, 03:48 PMRamenQuote:
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oh fresh and tasty :O -
12-10-2012, 03:50 PMNixHe begs to be baked with butter and lemon!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramen
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12-10-2012, 04:02 PMRalosI see what you did thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Nix
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12-11-2012, 12:53 AMSinclaireThis is exactly the point, I'm trying to poke people with. I also feel that it's very iconic and very Final Fantasy. For those of us that came up on the Final Fantasy series, prior to VII, it would evoke a large amount of nostalgia. I feel it has a place in the latest installment, and could be done so remarkably well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimen
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12-11-2012, 01:20 AMCedriThis is why we love you Nix, also this: Credit to thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix
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12-11-2012, 01:32 AMSinclaireYES! Exactly what I'm talking about! Good job, Cedri!~Quote:
Originally Posted by Cedri
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12-11-2012, 02:35 AMLinkurrra
I agree, I can appreciate the more orchestrated direction FFXIV music has taken.
In fact Nobuo Uematsu has started doing a more electronic rock sounds to his music hear lately. Now I realize that he's not doing the latest set of music for ARR. but the music does appear to be lacking in the Bass department. -
12-11-2012, 05:43 AMRuisu
But Uematsu's music isn't Final Fantasy enough for this playerbase, so we can't go around having a typical Final Fantasy bassline... in a Final Fantasy game. It doesn't make sense! That's why they're redoing the music in the first place.
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12-11-2012, 06:34 AMNixHaha I love you guys too! Thanks for being awesome everyone!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cedri
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12-11-2012, 07:24 AMYUGON
Totally Agree!! Bring the dunna dunna dunna dunna -- dunna dunna dunna dunna! back!
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12-11-2012, 07:46 AMTwiddle
Nix you beat me to it, but still!!!
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12-11-2012, 07:50 AMNix*bites lip*Quote:
Originally Posted by Twiddle
Dat Bass.