In regards to this, how about enemy balancing be based around the specific "region" area - in Final Fantasy XI for example monsters in starter zones scaled from city > outland, then the next zone over they were a little higher in level but still generally for the newbies then the zone after that it begins to ramp up for party play.
Right now, enemies are either pushovers or will slaughter you or one hit kill you and we (players) seem to only benefit from being over the rank of the specific monster and nothing more.
[dev1027] Enemy Balancing
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03-08-2011, 05:24 PMJennestia[dev1027] Enemy Balancing
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03-08-2011, 05:27 PMGathWell, it adds some sort of dynamic and "danger" with the current zones, make them too easy and anybody can travel anywhere :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
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03-08-2011, 05:28 PMJennestia
Yeah, I get the danger aspect, but it's more enemies aren't balanced well in terms of gameplay since every FF game I've played they never mixed the monster groups in such a way 1 will be extremely easy, while 1 group will utterly destroy you all in the same grid.
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03-08-2011, 05:28 PMDemacia
Everybody can already travel everywhere. The monster placement is indeed completely ridiculous.
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03-08-2011, 05:31 PMGathlol Rainbow Basilisks? xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
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03-08-2011, 05:34 PMKirth
Agreed. There should be a critical path guiding players from starter zones with appropriate quests and mobs to mid to higher level appropriate zones, again with appropriate challenges.
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03-08-2011, 05:34 PMSuirieko
Personally, I agree with this. I was pretty astounded by how many very high leveled mobs were close to lower leveled mobs. (example drakes, peistes and salamanders), as I explore. Granted for the most part it's kind of... off the 'typical' path.
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03-08-2011, 05:54 PMNephera
But isnt the starter area sprawling out to tougher areas roughly what we already have (although admittedly it is not immediately clear where to go at what level if you arent doing leves. and its not immediately clear how strong something is in comparison to you, even with the con system. I'd suggest flagging some enemies as "group mobs" based on their toughness.)
Behests could use a little rebalancing however.
Behest enemies could stand to be a little tougher maybe, or have more per group (Scaling with the amount of people in the behest of course), maybe take off locking groups to one group of enemies at a time during behests so we can pull more than one group at a time and have a bit more of a challenge. -
03-08-2011, 05:57 PMSparkerI don't think this is the case at all. There are plenty of challenging mobs, you just have to take the time to find the right spot for your party based on size and rank. I have a group to grind with frequently and we find good things in about every zone for rank 40-45 group of 4-6. Very similar to ffxi as far as time per fight, and being 300-400 sp per mob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
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03-08-2011, 06:17 PMAreeyaJaidee
Some people are just lazy and don't want to explore Eorzea. They expect everything to be "handed" to them right out of their starting areas. . .
Me and my LS have found many areas to EXP/SKILL for decent rewards.
Alot of people are complaining about silly things that basically = "This game isn't easy enough; It takes too much of my time."
Play the game. Find the camps. Rank Up. -
03-08-2011, 06:28 PMJennestia
I don't recall it being about laziness or SP return - It's about the balance of monsters, which also falls in line with current placement.
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03-08-2011, 06:34 PMAreeyaJaideeBalanced as in it doesn't fit your definition of how many party members you should need to kill it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
If you can't kill it then build a better party. Problem solved.
NOTE: Higher level mobs in low level areas are there to keep players on there toes. It also helps take care of pesky botters as I have witnessed a few times before. -
03-08-2011, 06:44 PMJennestiaNo, balance as in statistics, which they acknowledged is off currently as the only thing that truly matters is Player Rank vs Monster Rank.Quote:
Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee
It keeps player's on their toes but there's also no sense of even distribution throughout the areas because monsters share the same spawn (which I assume is in place for making NMs pop eventually) which means in an area that's primarily dodos for example, there's the chance marmots will spawn in place of them instead of the dodos respawning - So aside monster stats, the enemy distribution isn't evenly balanced. -
03-08-2011, 06:52 PMNepherathe game is pretty easy man. I don't think not being able to kill things is his problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee
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03-08-2011, 06:57 PMXatsh
I see no problem with placement, honestly the game gives you great variety in places to level. Basically pick a zone and go. Never have to be at the same place twice. That and the mobs around the camps tend to be at the respective levels.
I think people need to branch out some more and explore.
With enemy balance, the HP values on all Leve mobs needs to be increased and behest needs to be about 5-6 fold harder also the range attack on every mob needs to be removed.
Make the fights require strategy instead of button spamming. Maby make some leves where the extra mobs that spawns is a harder mob, like a mini boss which takes 4-5mins to kill.