Instead of gradually losing durability as you hit something/get hit by something, do you think that it should be changed so that you only lose a set amount of durability (e.g. ~20%) upon death? Basically like Guild Wars 2 or Everquest 2.
Personally? I'd be in favor of something like this, since it's not only an overall better system (in my opinion) but it would also increase the consequences of dying (which is something the game currently lacks). What do you think?
Gear damage, should it be changed for ARR?
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10-01-2012, 01:34 AMnekroturkeyGear damage, should it be changed for ARR?
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10-01-2012, 01:38 AMPinkiePieI think we should go back to exp loss like xi.Quote:
Originally Posted by nekroturkey
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10-01-2012, 01:42 AMEsk
A death penity is only really good if its harsh imo, in most games it's just a token thing, as what your describing is.
I personally think as most gear is crafted, it should have real max durability (think SWG) not just a % (something you could increase with a good craft and lower with a quick mass run).
Then the max durability drops every time it is repaired and eventuallyl become useless.
It would still use the same action based loss, but you would have to decreses the speed at which they wear sugnificantly depending on the % loss of max duability loss per repair, id also up your death penilty durability loss to 25% of the items current durability.
AF and some rewards (as they only real one time item atm) should be fixable via a craft item from a quest or something like that.. -
10-01-2012, 01:46 AMElexia
Err you already lose durability upon death, especially repeated death.
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10-01-2012, 01:58 AMnekroturkeyI meant solely from dying, instead of losing durability from getting hit repeatedly and dying. They could increase the amount of durability that you lose upon death as well (like up to ~20-25%), so that dying has more of a consequence to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elexia
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10-01-2012, 01:59 AMRenenThat would be TOO harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esk
Imagine a 4 melded equip becoming useless? -
10-01-2012, 02:06 AMEskKinda the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renen
It would keep the econamy turning over with new gear all the time, yes you would have to balance things like that, but worked in SWG i had 3 versions of 1 pistol, general meh stats, good stats and the one i got out for PvP with uber stats. -
10-01-2012, 02:26 AMWynn
As long as you aren't dying, gear wear is almost unnoticeable as it is. Except for weapons, of course.
It exists as a gil sink. One of the very few we have. And it is horridly innefective since its impact has been significantly reduced and the price of repairs has been drastically lowered. Further reduction would all but nullify the impact of gear wear.
If anything, I think they should re-increase the severity of it. -
10-01-2012, 02:27 AMindiraequip perma death would help the game alot. should be like that now. since money not being spent, and everyone says they have hundreds of millions of gil shouldnt hurt them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esk
death is just a free shortcut to the homepoint in this game. -
10-01-2012, 02:45 AMMujen
I think profession repairs are to blame, going to NPC for repair @5k/item adds up. Many of us don't want to lvl a profession cuz it's a pain in the ass boredom repetitive hours/day task.
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10-01-2012, 02:59 AMRudyFails
No, absolutely not. This is just ridiculous. There should be no death penalty whatsoever. Look, I pay my 10 or whatever dollars every single month and you mean to tell me that I should have to play the game more than already do getting a level back or getting some buffer exp to blow on a few wipes.
It's flat out bad game design these days to make someone have to play more than what they deem viable. I'm already pissed off enough that I even have to sign on most days. And while I'm at it, if I die to Garuda I should still get a chance at a weapon drop at something like 30%. No, that's BS too, it should be somewhere around 80%, because even though I died and spent 17 whole minutes of my life, I should still get a reward for trying and not winning and just not wanting to deal with it anymore! -
10-01-2012, 03:10 AMEskHere have a "I win!" button. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RudyFails
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10-01-2012, 03:13 AMejiboo
i'd would definitely like to XP loss incorporated into XIV and i think gear damage is pretty balanced as is; it helps to weed out some excess gil and promote repairing each other's gear via DoH - repairing via the npc is pretty pricey but i get it and i like that. if i'm lazy and repair everything even if it's not yellow, there goes 50k.
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10-01-2012, 03:13 AMRudyFailsFinally! That button took all of 56 seconds to get. Timesink yo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Esk
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10-01-2012, 03:16 AMMujenHe didn't word it properly, but in summation what he said in the 1st couple sentences was that he doesn't feel like he should have to do "extra work" in a video game. So let's not pick on what he said and go with the "oh so you think you should get it all" responses.. it's not constructive & leads to lame posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esk
The economy of V1.XX wasn't handled that well & a large influx of gil was created by the dev's. I was told leves gave crazy amounts of gil, the Atomos event recently gave out extra gil & there's probably more "leaks" V2.xx will restart a new economy & it's rly upto the dev team to work out the economic factors more precisely w/o leaks/loop holes. -
10-01-2012, 03:20 AMMujenLike I said, profession repairs took away the gil sink. Dark matter & a few hundred gil.. ur good to go. Not only can they craft items to get rich, but they can repair for free, win/win max profit. And before I get the "so level a profession" speech.. it's so boring to a lot of players. It's like a job.. some ppl enjoy it & some think it's retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by ejiboo
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10-01-2012, 03:35 AMEsklol u get my reply was a joke right.. (>.<)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mujen
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10-01-2012, 03:44 AMEskYup, it would take a lot of balancing to get right, if it's too harsh though its just gona frustrate people.Quote:
Originally Posted by indira
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10-01-2012, 03:45 AMMujenYeah :-P Im sure other ppl would flame his post though. That old trhead about the JP button got closed so fast lol was pretty funny thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Esk