I said earlier today when I got home, I would make a Thread to show the people having a hard time sinking this one in, on how the TGS Trailer that was showed Yesterday is either Low Settings, or used Old Assets from pervious builds ( non-Alpha).
Let's Dive into it Shall we:
Exhibit A~ TGS 2012 Trailer Screens
http://i47.tinypic.com/xdtvzc.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2vb2c7m.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/71sev9.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/2h3pfk5.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/33kd4bt.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/245lxr5.jpg
From all these Screens ( All in HD 1080p) You can see characters faces kinda pixelated, Grass ( lol you know I had to talk about the dreaded grass :P) isn't as green as 1.0 ( first screens we had of La Noseca for 2.0). Water Effects doesn't look to be Fluent, and some of the colors seems to be washed out.
Now for Exhibit B~ Everything else before TGS 2012 Trailer:
http://i47.tinypic.com/wks36o.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/20ur3o5.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/fp2lwp.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2e4lw8k.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/2yza9aq.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/34yr4m9.jpg
If you compare these photos to the one above, you will notice that these are more of a Vibrant type of feel to them, The Faces of the Characters look more smoother like they actually shaved lol hehe, The Big Television Screen Picture, Looks more clear Shadows looks more in-depth then 1.0. Weapon skills effects look pretty, etc.
Cartoony? Hardly, not even close, Maybe perhaps the TGS 2012 one it could look cartoony, but they already confirmed that those were old assets they were using to make that Trailer.
Keep your main Focus on everything before the TGS Trailer and you be golden. Yoshi-P even said, it will look sorta like it is now on 1.0 on low end rigs, but on the higher tier rigs, you will have a Major increase in graphics, the better your computers is.
Graphics (personally) are the least of my worries. What I'm worried about is this:
- How the Quest system is going to work?
- Leveling Speed in which it will take from 1-50.
- The Amount of Content at Launch.
- How Well the Servers/UI will Respond?
- Last but not least the Gameplay Mechanics ( Final Version, SE changed the battle system 1 time in 1.0 Alpha/Beta)
- Assets Placement ( This is a form of Graphics but it has nothing to do with how it looks, but how its placed throughout the map. This is more important to me than Graphics in itself.)
Those 6 are the most important for me in this MMO. If they can do these 6 flawlessly, then I be a happy camper.
( Note: the comparison is how I feel about the difference between TGS 2012 Trailer VS Everything else before, and it includes nothing but my very own suggestions, no one else)
Graphics is just a Bonus, Asset Placement is what I want more than Graphics, if you were to ask me a Question about Graphics, Asset Placement would be my answer.
Comparison: TGS 2012 Vs Gamescom/PAX/Live Letter
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09-21-2012, 06:34 AMStarlordComparison: TGS 2012 Vs Gamescom/PAX/Live Letter
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09-21-2012, 08:01 AMCrystalWeapon
I don't know, it makes more sense to me that for the 3rd trailer they downgraded their graphics after a long weekend of playing TF2, degraded all the animations they had in place in the other trailers (they weren't quite cartoony and janky enough), and threw a wrench into their server structure so that the video had as much lag as they could possibly fit in.
Your comparisons just reinforce this *nods*
If you'll excuse me I'll go back to yelling about how this game is going to fall down a set of stairs, break both it's arms, and randomly burst into flames. -
09-21-2012, 08:04 AMStarlord/sarcasm Your sure are positive aren't ya? @.@ lolQuote:
If you'll excuse me I'll go back to yelling about how this game is going to fall down a set of stairs, break both it's arms, and randomly burst into flames.
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09-21-2012, 08:28 AMRokien
Latest build that we have seen on the left compaired to an older build, the one people hate.
http://i.imgur.com/35qiJ.jpg
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09-21-2012, 08:31 AMCrystalWeaponIf you can't tell the difference between the lighting effects, texture detail, and differences in color saturation between the two, you need glasses. >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by Rokien
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09-21-2012, 08:41 AMRokienLighting effects, you can't even, no, the sun is at a different angle, it's in a different area. Texture detail, man you must be able to enhance photos because they look the same to me, ooooo they went to there settings and moved the saturation bar over.... geezQuote:
Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon
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09-21-2012, 08:47 AMCrystalWeaponThe sun is at the same angle in both pictures wth are you talking about? The shadows are both drawn to the bottom left side of the screen. They're both in open fields. Also the sun is shining on the same part on the hume's shoulder in both pictures. There's much less shading going on in the new trailer than there is going on in the limit break trailer. There was more dynamic shading going on in the live letter as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rokien
You can see the amount of detail if you watch both this trailer and the limit break one in HD, and yes you can notice a difference. -
09-21-2012, 08:47 AMFelisWhy do you show from the 2 unofficial live letter videos on youtube the one with the worst quality?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rokien
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pjjbejlI4 is a bit better but still not the best
We need the official live letter video with subs -
09-21-2012, 09:20 AMPunainenWanna have a laugh? Turn on the closed captioning, then turn on the auto-translate function. I'm pretty sure they're not talking about rice and crude oil as much as Youtube thinks they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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09-21-2012, 09:46 AMTypeZLmfao.. maybe it was the ps3 version? Well if i was SE, I would quickly say that:DDQuote:
Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon
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09-21-2012, 12:10 PMRandelmireCongratulations at comparing 2 YouTube videos with a pretty small picture size.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon
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09-21-2012, 12:40 PMGarlen
Yoshi-P's newest post on the forums today confirmed that this new trailer was created using older assets.
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09-21-2012, 12:41 PMStarlordYep, that's in the OP as well somewhere in the wall o text :P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garlen
That's what I said about the Older assets =).Quote:
Cartoony? Hardly, not even close, Maybe perhaps the TGS 2012 one it could look cartoony, but they already confirmed that those were old assets they were using to make that Trailer.
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09-21-2012, 01:14 PMShougunI WANT PERFECT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlord
Just wanted to bring your thread down a little, too many people are cooling off.. :D
I want to see the best screenshot they have, they should do a weekly or monthly screenshot at max. We can watch them build and see it change.
I know they are missing at least a few bells and whistles but it would be interesting to know if they have any other post processing they can stuff in (for PC at least). Optional shaders or what have you.
DX10/11 support, perhaps they will include a graphics update then too. I really really want to see some tesselation in their work. Dynamic if possible. -
09-21-2012, 01:25 PMStarlordLol, If you want perfect you only set yourself up for disappointment. btw Xenoblade Chronicles didn't have good graphics, however the Asset Placement they did in that game was amazing! Just goes to show Graphics isn't everything in a game, because I had a real blast with it! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
http://i49.tinypic.com/20ihnrc.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/2j67ga1.jpg
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09-21-2012, 01:36 PMShougunAesthetics baby, they are important. Thats why giving a shit about grass though its simple is still a huge matter :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Starlord
And I agree looks pretty good - did really well for what the Wii can handle.