What FFXIV:ARR needs more than anything!

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09-17-2012, 01:40 PM
Xerius

What FFXIV:ARR needs more than anything!

Alt+tab in full screen mode.

I really hope that this didn't get pushed on the back-burner. I haven't seen it mentioned (although that doesn't mean anything I miss a lot of information apparently). I'm tired of having this nice machine to play upper-tier video games, but still having to play in this tiny box for FFXIV because the windowed mode makes more problems then solutions that it's worth at larger window sizes.
09-17-2012, 03:30 PM
Shurrikhan

Would like to see this too, but honestly I've never really experienced any problems with fullscreen windowed mode. If anything it runs slightly better than a true fullscreen mode (I get a pretty consistent 2 fps increase, though I don't know why).
09-17-2012, 10:33 PM
Xerius

For me it's not a problem of how good it runs it's a matter of the screen not fitting in the window. If I have it much bigger than I have it now my action bar will disappear below my start up menu. For some reason it can't seem to center itself.
09-20-2012, 03:37 AM
Shurrikhan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerius

For me it's not a problem of how good it runs it's a matter of the screen not fitting in the window. If I have it much bigger than I have it now my action bar will disappear below my start up menu. For some reason it can't seem to center itself.

If you can find that elusive actual fullscreen-window option, use that. Since I use it for other games as well, I just downloaded Auto-Hotkey and use this script:

^+a::
WinSet, Style, -0xC00000,a ; remove the titlebar and border(s)
WinMove, a, , 0, 0, 1680, 1050 ; move the window to 0,0 and resize it to 1680x1050
return

Set to Shift-A. Doesn't toggle back and forth, but it'll get the job done. And, no window borders.

Edit* Set your own wanted resolution where I have mine.

Edit** You can change the binding with an overriding option for all scripts on Auto-Hotkey, or the top line. Should also be able to set it to return to a regular windowed mode with an additional two lines; I've just never had the need.

Edit*** as someone mentioned later down, the hotkey might be CTRL-Shift-A by default when DLed now. Should say when you install it. : )
09-20-2012, 09:32 AM
Xerius

[QUOTE=Shurrikhan;834964
^+a::
WinSet, Style, -0xC00000,a ; remove the titlebar and border(s)
WinMove, a, , 0, 0, 1680, 1050 ; move the window to 0,0 and resize it to 1680x1050
return
[/QUOTE]
Ahhhh, thank you this should be quite helpful until 2.0 launches! ^^ For the resolution, I'd use my native resolution though not 1680x1050 though, right?
09-20-2012, 03:39 PM
Shurrikhan

Of course. Just a sample script that should work once you're put in your own needs. : P
09-25-2012, 02:47 PM
Laraul

Terminating the game when it looses focus is not exactly acceptable. There is no reason for the game to terminate.
09-25-2012, 06:26 PM
Medura

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

If you can find that elusive actual fullscreen-window option, use that. Since I use it for other games as well, I just downloaded Auto-Hotkey and use this script:

^+a::
WinSet, Style, -0xC00000,a ; remove the titlebar and border(s)
WinMove, a, , 0, 0, 1680, 1050 ; move the window to 0,0 and resize it to 1680x1050
return

Set to Shift-A. Doesn't toggle back and forth, but it'll get the job done.

Edit** You can change the binding with an overriding option for all scripts on Auto-Hotkey, or the top line. Should also be able to set it to return to a regular windowed mode with an additional two lines; I've just never had the need.

though, cant you get banned for use of autohotkey and autoit? those are used for very many botting communities afterall.
09-25-2012, 06:33 PM
Eruantien

Can't get banned for using that script, the only thing it does is modify windows, not the game itself. But I still agree, it's a stupid thing that players have to find ways to compensate for this oversight.
09-25-2012, 06:46 PM
Medura

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eruantien

Can't get banned for using that script, the only thing it does is modify windows, not the game itself. But I still agree, it's a stupid thing that players have to find ways to compensate for this oversight.

doesnt the final fantasy client read which programs you have in the background and send that data back to the server though?
09-25-2012, 06:49 PM
Laraul

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medura

doesnt the final fantasy client read which programs you have in the background and send that data back to the server though?

No of course not. That would be seen as a major invasion of users privacy.
09-25-2012, 07:34 PM
Matsume

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerius

For me it's not a problem of how good it runs it's a matter of the screen not fitting in the window. If I have it much bigger than I have it now my action bar will disappear below my start up menu. For some reason it can't seem to center itself.

Yo Dawg...
You can drag and drop all in game boxes. If your action bar drops below the start up menu, go back to a smaller window size, arrange it so that all your boxes (chat logs, action bar, exp bar, health bar, utility bar, debuff/buff bar, map, date, moon phase) are centered away from the edges. Then change the window size to that which you desire and rearange all the boxes to their desired positions.

I don't really know the reason that resizing the window shifts all the ingame boxes one way or another. I would think the client intelligent enough to recognize where the boxes are in relation to the windows edges and rearrange them accordingly regardless of the window size but that doesn't yet seem to be possible.

I hope that works if not the above mentioend script.
10-02-2012, 10:21 PM
Xiichi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

If you can find that elusive actual fullscreen-window option, use that. Since I use it for other games as well, I just downloaded Auto-Hotkey and use this script:

^+a::
WinSet, Style, -0xC00000,a ; remove the titlebar and border(s)
WinMove, a, , 0, 0, 1680, 1050 ; move the window to 0,0 and resize it to 1680x1050
return

Set to Shift-A. Doesn't toggle back and forth, but it'll get the job done.

Edit** You can change the binding with an overriding option for all scripts on Auto-Hotkey, or the top line. Should also be able to set it to return to a regular windowed mode with an additional two lines; I've just never had the need.

Note - If you're using this script it's ctrl+shift+a to activate without any additional bindings, but thumbs up for the script!
10-06-2012, 04:43 AM
Tiberious

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerius

Alt+tab in full screen mode.

I really hope that this didn't get pushed on the back-burner. I haven't seen it mentioned (although that doesn't mean anything I miss a lot of information apparently). I'm tired of having this nice machine to play upper-tier video games, but still having to play in this tiny box for FFXIV because the windowed mode makes more problems then solutions that it's worth at larger window sizes.

Well, generally speaking , as good as FFXIV 1.0 looked it did not look THAT good to warrant the kind of machine you need to play it. On my same machine I built for it I have played deus ex, battlefield 3, mass effect 1-3, and batman arkham city all with graphics settings on as high as they would go with relatively little or no graphical performance decrease.

FFXIV 1.0 on the other hand..... Sorry, but that's just poor design, or coding, or something.
10-10-2012, 03:05 AM
Camate

Greetings multi-taskers!

As long as your PCs are up to par with the recommended specs, you will be able to ALT+TAB safely out of full-screen mode without the game crashing. :)
10-10-2012, 03:08 AM
DrakoRocks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings multi-taskers!

As long as your PCs are up to par with the recommended specs, you will be able to ALT+TAB safely out of full-screen mode without the game crashing. :)

i hope we also get a windowed full screen mode WITHOUT BORDERS.. any good game comes with that nowdays.
10-10-2012, 03:20 AM
Rosalie

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrakoRocks

i hope we also get a windowed full screen mode WITHOUT BORDERS.. any good game comes with that nowdays.

Um... that's exactly what Camate just said we were getting...
10-10-2012, 03:41 AM
Ashiee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings multi-taskers!

As long as your PCs are up to par with the recommended specs, you will be able to ALT+TAB safely out of full-screen mode without the game crashing. :)

I thought this day would never come....
10-10-2012, 04:16 AM
Alhanelem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosalie

Um... that's exactly what Camate just said we were getting...

No, that's not what he said we're getting. He said we'll be able to alt tab from full screen mode without the game crashing. This person is asking for a borderless window of the same size as the screen resolution. Alt tabbing is much faster when a program is not in fullscreen mode, but he still wants it to take up the whole screen. Borderless window is a common option in games these days.

A borderless window the size of the screen does result in a very slight performance decrease because the game doesn't have exclusive control of the screen with this method. However, alt-tabbing is instant like it is for any other program, instead of that lengthy delay you get when alt tabbing from a true fullscreen mode.
10-10-2012, 04:23 AM
Ingolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings multi-taskers!

As long as your PCs are up to par with the recommended specs, you will be able to ALT+TAB safely out of full-screen mode without the game crashing. :)

FINALLY.

This is why most people used windower in XI and the equivalent in XIV. Windowed mode is ugly and full screen locks you into one task.

I was so disappointed when XIV didn't let you alt tab, it's such a basic thing to allow.
10-10-2012, 07:09 AM
Ladon

Echoing what others have said. Full-screen windowed mode is also a must for any modern game especially with multi-monitors being so common now. This mode allows you to do things on another monitor without having to minimum the game on the main screen.
10-10-2012, 07:16 AM
Xerius

This is the happiest day of my life! Thanks for the reply Camate! :)
10-10-2012, 01:42 PM
Gardthorne

Here's hoping they understand we need a full-screen window, not simply the ability to alt-tab without crashing.
10-10-2012, 05:23 PM
Evangelus

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrakoRocks

i hope we also get a windowed full screen mode WITHOUT BORDERS.. any good game comes with that nowdays.

Ho yes ! Without borders please !
10-10-2012, 05:32 PM
shal_zee

full screen alt tab is better as you need full screen for SLI or CF.
10-10-2012, 06:03 PM
Boterote

Great to see that it's being fixed! can't even tell you how many crashes on spontaneous alt-tabs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings multi-taskers!

As long as your PCs are up to par with the recommended specs, you will be able to ALT+TAB safely out of full-screen mode without the game crashing. :)
10-10-2012, 09:44 PM
HamHam

Can you let us know if this apply to duo screens? It would really be appreciated :)
10-10-2012, 11:11 PM
Raldo

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamHam

Can you let us know if this apply to duo screens? It would really be appreciated :)

It will fix anything that causes the FFXIV window to lose focus, so yes.

You guys do realize they told us that this was going to be fixed in 2.0 like... a year ago, right? This isn't new news.
10-13-2012, 02:52 PM
Catapult
I'll cross-post this here for you lovely people...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasunaich

Guten Morgen,
Good morning,

die Brieftaube hat mir soeben höchst erfreuliche Nachrichten vorbeigebracht. In ARR wird es die folgenden drei Fenstermodi geben:
The carrier-pidgeon just brought me some very delightful news. In ARR there will be the following three display modes:

normaler Fenstermodus normal windowed mode

rahmenloser Fenstermodus borderless windowed mode

Vollbild-Modus Full-screen mode

Ihr werdet also in Ruhe mit Alt-Tab die Fenster wechseln und den Fenster-Modus eurer Wahl einstellen können. :cool:
You will also be able to easily change the window with Alt-Tab and select the display mode of your choice. :cool:
10-15-2012, 01:04 PM
Kyra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings multi-taskers!

As long as your PCs are up to par with the recommended specs, you will be able to ALT+TAB safely out of full-screen mode without the game crashing. :)

Well done for adding something that every other game allows you to do since 1991.
10-17-2012, 01:18 PM
GreyJorildyn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyra

Well done for adding something that every other game allows you to do since 1991.

Baby steps bro, baby steps.

(No really, it's sad cuz it's true)
10-18-2012, 02:12 AM
Tiberious

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Would like to see this too, but honestly I've never really experienced any problems with fullscreen windowed mode. If anything it runs slightly better than a true fullscreen mode (I get a pretty consistent 2 fps increase, though I don't know why).

I don't really care to be able to alt+tab because I use my laptop for that. HOWEVER, I have MANY MANY times accidently pressed the window key on my keyboard which crashes the game. Reallllllllly annoying when you're in the middle of a guildleve.

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