Alpha invites

I'm just curious if any of these has been sent out yet?

Oh yes, thats right, I remember reading that now.
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Even if i did i wouldnt tell you for i'll get kick out of alpha! NDA BROKEN!!!

Yes, do keep in mind that I am not exposed to bespeak any such information to you nor would I, even if i had said information at this juncture, be able.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

Even if i did i wouldnt tell you for i'll get kick out of alpha! NDA BROKEN!!!

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well saying that you are in alpha does not break the NDA... more likely when you are going to speak about the game itself.


yoshida said at the jp 25th anniversary that the alpha is going to start in the end of this month.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

well saying that you are in alpha does not break the NDA...

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Looks like someone failed to read the NDA properly.

I never asked if anyone specific got the invite, nor do I care.
I merely wanted to know if they were being sent yet.

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Originally Posted by Xodus84

I never asked if anyone specific got the invite, nor do I care.
I merely wanted to know if they were being sent yet.

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The general understanding from Yoshi-P's letter was that they will not be sent to non-Japanese players until they are ready to start alpha phase 2, which is suspected to be during October at the earliest.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

well saying that you are in alpha does not break the NDA... more likely when you are going to speak about the game itself.

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Most game nda's I have been under expressly forbid the tester from even saying that there a tester.

The first rule of Alpha is that we do not speak of Alpha.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

The very first phase (where the servers are most likely going to crash and be unstable anyway) is JP onry.

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You gotta love the cognitive dissonance in statements like this.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

Yes, do keep in mind that I am not exposed to bespeak any such information to you nor would I, even if i had said information at this juncture, be able.

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I know this, because Catapult knows this.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

You gotta love the cognitive dissonance in statements like this.

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The first phase of an alpha test for MMOs is mainly about server balancing and stress testing. In the 1.xx first alpha we would be sat in a login queue for a lot of the window, get on for about 30 mins before getting kicked and being stuck in a login queue again. Servers will always be unstable during the first alpha test because they need fine tuning.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

The first phase of an alpha test for MMOs is mainly about server balancing and stress testing. In the 1.xx first alpha we would be sat in a login queue for a lot of the window, get on for about 30 mins before getting kicked and being stuck in a login queue again. Servers will always be unstable during the first alpha test because they need fine tuning.

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Which is why I like the Japanese to do all the stupid annoying stuff first, so that when it comes alpha phase 2/3 it won't be "As" bad :P.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Which is why I like the Japanese to do all the stupid annoying stuff first, so that when it comes alpha phase 2/3 it won't be "As" bad :P.

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Sounds like you just want to play, rather than being an actual tester. xD

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Which is why I like the Japanese to do all the stupid annoying stuff first, so that when it comes alpha phase 2/3 it won't be "As" bad :P.

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*cough* I wouldn't count on it. I doubt we'll see something "playable" in the classical sense until at least late Closed Beta, if not Open Beta.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Sounds like you just want to play, rather than being an actual tester. xD

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Um, that would be a negative, but the first phase is always the most annoying part of any MMO testing, I tested a bunch of things, however if I were to get into phase 1 of course I would be testing to make this game better. Lets get that straight right now.

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Originally Posted by Hulan

*cough* I wouldn't count on it. I doubt we'll see something "playable" in the classical sense until at least late Closed Beta, if not Open Beta.

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Indeed, nothing will be playable till it's time for it to be released honestly.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

The first phase of an alpha test for MMOs is mainly about server balancing and stress testing. In the 1.xx first alpha we would be sat in a login queue for a lot of the window, get on for about 30 mins before getting kicked and being stuck in a login queue again. Servers will always be unstable during the first alpha test because they need fine tuning.

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That brings me back lol.

On Day 1, there wasn't even a notice to tell you where you were in the queue. It took about 40 min of log attempts before you were successful. Once you got in, you had about 5 min max of gameplay before the game crashed and kicked you out again and you went back to playing the log-on lotto.

It wasn't fun at all - but it was necessary.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

That brings me back lol.

On Day 1, there wasn't even a notice to tell you where you were in the queue. It took about 40 min of log attempts before you were successful. Once you got in, you had about 5 min max of gameplay before the game crashed and kicked you out again and you went back to playing the log-on lotto.

It wasn't fun at all - but it was necessary.

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Not fun, but I sat there for the whole window trying to log in, then the awesome no mobs/npcs loading in la Noscea, and GMs shouting "If you can't see mobs log out and back in again" BAM!! back to errors and I coped with it to help SE.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

The very first phase (where the servers are most likely going to crash and be unstable anyway) is JP onry.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

You gotta love the cognitive dissonance in statements like this.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

The first phase of an alpha test for MMOs is mainly about server balancing and stress testing. In the 1.xx first alpha we would be sat in a login queue for a lot of the window, get on for about 30 mins before getting kicked and being stuck in a login queue again. Servers will always be unstable during the first alpha test because they need fine tuning.

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You miss the point.

In The Fox and the Grapes by Aesop, a fox saw some high-hanging grapes and wished to eat them. When the fox was unable to think of a way to reach them, he decided that the grapes were probably not worth eating, with the justification that the grapes are likely not ripe or that they are sour (hence "sour grapes").

This example follows a pattern: one desires something, finds it unattainable, and reduces one's dissonance by criticizing it.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

You miss the point.

In The Fox and the Grapes by Aesop, a fox saw some high-hanging grapes and wished to eat them. When the fox was unable to think of a way to reach them, he decided that the grapes were probably not worth eating, with the justification that the grapes are likely not ripe or that they are sour (hence "sour grapes").

This example follows a pattern: one desires something, finds it unattainable, and reduces one's dissonance by criticizing it.

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It's fine to copy/paste from Wikipedia, but you should give credit where credit is due.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia: "Cognitive dissonance"

Examples

A classical illustration of cognitive dissonance is expressed in the fable The Fox and the Grapes by Aesop (ca. 620–564 BCE). In the story, a fox sees some high-hanging grapes and wishes to eat them. When the fox is unable to think of a way to reach them, he decides that the grapes are probably not worth eating, with the justification the grapes probably are not ripe or that they are sour (hence "sour grapes"). This example follows a pattern: one desires something, finds it unattainable, and reduces one's dissonance by criticizing it. Jon Elster calls this pattern "adaptive preference formation".[6]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

Wikipedia has a Creative Commons license, FYI.

And I did cite Aesop.