Planning to build underwater gameplay in 2.0

Just saw some images of bodys of water in Grindeeaa XD. Anyway was thinking is SE planning to start building underwater zones or some cool things in the water while there building 2.0. Then of course build some undertwater swiming and activate all these zones to real locations.

Plus water animation in the gameplay vid seems worse then its in the currect verision. All water running at the same animation. Hopefully they fix it.

I think we are getting air content first. Yoshi mentioned hes leaning towards that before going the water route.

He's said before that for the first expansion he's thinking of either Sea (something to do with swimming, boats, etc.) or Sky (airships and such). Recently he's stated that he's leaning towards fly-y stuff more.

EDIT: Thanos beat me to it.

Still want to be able to swim tho.

I really hope not.. under water stuff is the worst, I get enough of that crap in World of Warcraft.

Ultimately I think people have to stop analyzing the future of FFXIV 2.0 based on what limited video information me have now.

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Originally Posted by Breladine

I really hope not.. under water stuff is the worst, I get enough of that crap in World of Warcraft.

Ultimately I think people have to stop analyzing the future of FFXIV 2.0 based on what limited video information me have now.

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Theres underwater content in Everquest, Everquest II, Age of Conan . . .. . . . . .. .

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Originally Posted by Reika

Theres underwater content in Everquest, Everquest II, Age of Conan . . .. . . . . .. .

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And no MMO has done Underwater content right. FFXI's underwater content was actually very much how you'd expect it to be in a FF game, some kind of underwater ruins. What ruins underwater content in MMOs tends to be the shitty swim mechanic.

What is 'right' in underwater content, in a fantasy game. I've no probelm with how Everquest or everquest II or age of conan or even WoW did their underwater content. They had it, it was cool to do.

"Right" means the content actually doesn't feel like a sluggish mess.

I'd be interested in it for the distant future, but there are more important things to address first, IMO.

I like air and water content, YES PLEASE!

I hate looking at objects and thinking - I can own Nael Freaking Van Darnus but you fence, you puddle, and you mountain are my worst enemy.

If they do air or water content they should look more to previous single player games rather then the mmo's who have done an alright job - but there are better examples out there.

That being said, as many others have stated - YoshiP is interested in air more at the moment (because he really wants airships).

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Originally Posted by Breladine

I really hope not.. under water stuff is the worst, I get enough of that crap in World of Warcraft.

Ultimately I think people have to stop analyzing the future of FFXIV 2.0 based on what limited video information me have now.

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You're right. We should go back to talking about grass.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

You're right. We should go back to talking about grass.

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Actually Dark Souls grass (pc and ps3) is pretty good looking, I think they apply some blur and/or aa to it. Very smooth. They should look into that, then higher end pcs can get ride of the pixel grass XD.

again it was pre-alpha

I'll be happy if the terra firma world is less locked than it was in 1.0. The glowing blue mine equipment in Bluefog that can't be explored, the doors that won't open in Grid and in Hyrstmill, and U'ghmoro Mountain in the distance in La Noscea was so frustrating to me. :(

After exploring all that, sure Sea and Sky.

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Originally Posted by Raubahn

again it was pre-alpha

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The grass is pixely -right- now. Besides blurring is a simple solution, would take 10 second script.

Back on topic though;

Does anyone know what kind of content Yoshi was thinking about?

All I know was he mentioned he wants more sky content. Is that like.. sky in 11 - with more transportation like how you were delivered to the White Raven fight?

Or like... a real airship to mess around with?

I'd be happy for starters for some "if we can see it we can go there and explore it" kind of gameplay. I do not want a repeat of gazing at beautiful Ishgard Castle and only being able to admire it from a distance.

I did not mind underwater combat in FFX and imo that was like the only game where it looked proper. If SE does something like that it would take huge amount of resources to do it properly where each move, ability, etc be animated just right. Other MMO's tend to just give you swimming motion and it turns out crap every single time. If I see anyone putting in the effort to do it right it would be Yoshi but for now I think the resources could be spent elsewhere.

I want blitzball

I mean just laying some groundwork for swiming and making sure theres not holes and stuff around the corner where players can swim to and so forth.

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Originally Posted by Thanos

I think we are getting air content first. Yoshi mentioned hes leaning towards that before going the water route.

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He said that players like Sea more then Sky so he going to do Sea first but now it seem like he really just want to do Sky first :) i myself like both so i can't wait to see how it going to be.

I do think that the FF series as a whole has a bigger attachment and tradition with the sky than the sea (I mean, if we look back at the entire franchise I think the only one that gave sufficient focus to underwater to call it actual content was FFIV? FFVII had the submarine minigame but it was more a minigame than actual long spanning content).

And sincere, I do personally prefer to explore the skies than the the seabed. In whatever expansion we get in 2015, perhaps!

The only thing I want out of FFXIV right now, topographically speaking, is the ability to run over all the rocks and plants. Seriously, can we get past that? It's a big guessing game to see what will stop me or allow me to run over in the regions surrounding Ul'dah, at one point I was having a free-for-all straight across the landscape going over every rock, bump, and small hill when suddenly.. bam. Crashing halt. Why?

A plant. A tiny one at that, and I'm on a bloody chocobo!

Come on.

Forget sea and forget sky.. get the land right first.

I'm excited for whatever he gives us, but I'll admit to hoping he'd give us Sea first, mostly because I really really want my own sailboat to fish the day away on.