A Twin Adder monk

Hello folks;

So long story short, I enjoy monk however its my least geared job because it tends to be the least played, I only ever really use it last boss fight for AV.

That being said, I have a ton of grand company seals, both from caravans and working on achievement and as such I'll be snagging the last rank today when I get home.

So, I really just want to have some fun and blow all my seals on fitting out my monk, the reason I'm posting this is just to get some feed back on what people think (Twin adder seems to be the least favourite Grand company), and make it useful enough.

Was thinking of getting
Serpent Lieutenant's Claws
Damage 133
Delay 3.3
DPS 40.30
Blunt 100%
HP+20
Accuracy+25
Serpent gear (5 or more pieces): Attack Power+25

Gridanian Officer's Overcoat
Required Level: 50
Suits: All Classes
Defense 150
Strength+10 Dexterity+10 Intelligence+10 Piety+10
Sanction: Critical Hit Attack Power+120

Serpent Sergeant's Belt
Required Level: 50
Suits: All Classes
Defense 24
HP+12 Vitality+3 Intelligence+3

And maybe this?

Serpent Sergeant's Earrings
Required Level: 50
Suits: All Classes
Defense 1
Attack Magic Potency+4
Serpent gear (4 or more pieces): Intelligence+4

And this?
Serpent Sergeant's Choker
Required Level: 50
Suits: All Classes
Defense 5
Attack Power+27
Serpent gear (3 or more pieces): Critical Hit Attack Power+15


After this though, I'm not too sure if the other pieces are even worth it.
What I have left to fill are legs, boot, hat and gloves.

These are the GC boots I have access to, but was wonder if there was something better
Serpent Sergeant's Jackboots
Required Level: 50
Suits: All Classes
Defense 56
Evasion+30
Serpent gear (2 or more pieces): Intelligence+10

Hands: Just keep the temple gloves?
Legs: Thee ole double melded felt? with STR and VIT? Keep temple pants?
Hat: ???


Thanks in advance for your time.

Hey dex :P From what i hear double meld felt bracers with attack power are some of the best gloves atm. Nice thing about them is they can be used on many classes. I dont have them yet, so i currently use the AF gloves, which seem to hold their ground pretty well

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Originally Posted by KiniRyris

Hey dex :P From what i hear double meld felt bracers with attack power are some of the best gloves atm. Nice thing about them is they can be used on many classes. I dont have them yet, so i currently use the AF gloves, which seem to hold their ground pretty well

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For ARC/BRD sure. You'll want STR hands on MNK.

Honestly Jones. I'd just get all those items from your Grand Company, they're all helpful for you. Now then, if you don't have a 30+ Intelligence Hat, just use your AF head and if you don't have a 30+ Strength Gloves use your AF hands for now as for legs if you don't have a 14+ Strength Legs AF likewise. This will probably make you more Intelligence Heavy if anything which is what most Twin Adder Monks are. So you'll want to toss on Strength Rings and Strength Bracelets as those are your only other free slots left. If your Intelligence is at 310 or higher you can afford to sacrifice one of the GC items (you only need the Claws and four others to activate the Claw's bonus) to put on more strength gear somewhere if possible.

Would Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves of slaying be a suitable replacement for Felt Bracers? That and Would attack power over Strength be suitable if I wanted to use the same gloves on DRG and BRD?

I personally use Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves of Slaying (Triple Melded with +36 Strength) myself. It's essentially a trade off, Five/Six Accuracy for Four/Five Attack. I also like the Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves of Slaying more cause they make more of my gloves I wear on other jobs.

The choice between those two I feel more hinges on which you feel you can live without more or what you lack more in, Attack or Accuracy. In most cases it'll be Accuracy is what you'll be lacking in, but I feel it can be made up in food and minuet. So long as you can get that 30+ Strength, I don't feel it completely matters which one of those two you choose.

So as long as I use Gridanian Overcoat, AF pants and 1 Rubelite ring, I should be able to trade off the STR melds for Attack power then? I'll look into Felt Bracers if I can, though makes it insanely difficult not having a friend who's a level 50 Leatherworker, lol.

Honestly, so long as you hit 350 Strength and 310 Intelligence, that path and gear you use to get there only somewhat matter. Just be reasonable in what you wear. I've seen many different monks all with different paths to reach those goals, but so long as you reach them it's all that really matters. No?

You have a point there, lol. Can't wait to get full into MNK, but it would be extremely helpful if I can minimize the amount of gear to wear for all 7 jobs

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

So as long as I use Gridanian Overcoat, AF pants and 1 Rubelite ring, I should be able to trade off the STR melds for Attack power then? I'll look into Felt Bracers if I can, though makes it insanely difficult not having a friend who's a level 50 Leatherworker, lol.

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Depends, Ideally you want to try to hit the Stat caps which if you have the SLC (mentioned above) which has 40.3 DPS you would need roughly 355 STR / 312 INT to give yourself the best overall boost in damage, beyond that you'll stop seeing good benefits from STR / INT and can start focusing on your preference of Attack/Crit. Rate/ Crit. Atk.

If you need to really sacrifice a slot for a GC item usually the feet are the easiest option to trade out for, with the bracelets, earring, and neck slot coming in a good second, a good third would likely be the body, but I'm not sure what the stats are on Grids GC armor's so there might be a worthwhile out of place piece or two out there.

I understand that concept very well. Since you're Gridanian, it's good to point out the Officer's Overcoat doubles as a decent Bard Body Piece (When you're not Ballading) and any Intelligence gear used for Monk from your Grand Company doubles very well for Black Mage.

Personally, I use this set up for my Monk (I'm a Maelstrom Monk)
Weapon: Storm Lieutenant's Hooks
Head: Felt Cavalier's Hat (Green) (Triple Melded with Intelligence for a total of 38)
Body: Storm Sergeant's Tabard
Hands: Raptorskin Gloves of Slaying (Red) (Triple Melded with Strength for a total of 36)
Legs: Storm Sergeant's Hose
Feet: Cobalt-plated Caligae (Melded with Bloodthirst)
Waist: Veteran's Field Belt
Neck: Explorer's Choker
Wrist: Storm Sergeant's Bracelets
Rings: Rubelite Rings +1 x2
Earrings: Storm Sergeant's Earring

I used to have a Coliseum Subligar, but it exploded in a double Meld Attempt. There was much sadness. With my current set up though I lack about twenty intelligence from cap and one strength from cap. Currently just trying to get some Giantsgall Claws so I can meld Intelligence and Accuracy to them as well as get myself another part of Coliseum Subligar for melding. Most of the gear I have on there also is gear I use for Warrior and Dragoon as well. So long as you can cross over gear it helps immensely in saving space. Yup as well as keeping yourself effective.

How are the Ifrit's Claws? Considering them, but idk if I wanna use my time to collect them when I have easier access to others (GC claws OP mentioned seem very nice)

I use this :

Serpent Lieutenant's Claws

Temple Circlet
Gridanian Officer's Overcoat
Felt Bracers with STRx2
Felt Trousers with STR/VIT
Serpent Sergeant's Jackboots
Serpent Sergeant's Belt

Serpent Sergeant's Earrings
Explorer's Choker
Rubelite Bracelets
Rubelite Ring+1 x2

I'm trying to double-meld Trousers and a felt cavalier hat ^^
I'm already at 342 STR and 307 INT

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

How are the Ifrit's Claws? Considering them, but idk if I wanna use my time to collect them when I have easier access to others (GC claws OP mentioned seem very nice)

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I'd personally rather use the Lieutenant Claws over the Ifrit's Claws. You're not only getting higher base damage, higher DPS, but also accuracy from the deal and if you have the gear bonus you'll have only five less attack then the Ifrit Claws. Essentially the Lieutenant Claws is better overall then the Ifrit Claws as their are many more benefits to using them in comparison to just using the Ifrit Claws.

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Originally Posted by Chessirin

I'd personally rather use the Lieutenant Claws over the Ifrit's Claws. You're not only getting higher base damage, higher DPS, but also accuracy from the deal and if you have the gear bonus you'll have only five less attack then the Ifrit Claws. Essentially the Lieutenant Claws is better overall then the Ifrit Claws as their are many more benefits to using them in comparison to just using the Ifrit Claws.

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Time to gather 25k more seals, lol. Good thing I still have To Kill a Raven to get me more when Caravans start becoming duller

Appreciate the helpful Discussion here folks.

I would just like to point out Faith, that I have the Ifrit's claw as well, and I think the Lt. Claws to be better, since I am aiming for the set bonus for the claws, the loss of 5 att is minimal, and the gain of ACC is worth it. (can't hurt what you can't hit!)

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

Time to gather 25k more seals, lol. Good thing I still have To Kill a Raven to get me more when Caravans start becoming duller

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It's good to note however, the Storm Sergeant's hooks are a good "cheaper" alternative to have as well. They give +40 INT with sanction and slightly less damage and DPS. As long as you don't have a bad habit of dieing multiple times in dungeons it shouldn't be hard to go reapply Sanction when necessary. I only recommend going for them if you are having lots of difficulty hitting the INT cap however.

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Originally Posted by SwordCoheir

It's good to note however, the Storm Sergeant's hooks...

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Sadly this isn't an option for Faith as she's a Twin Adder and not part of the Maelstrom, but you are correct for anyone that is a Monk with the Maelstrom with Intelligence Capping issues. The only problem is they look kind of silly as they're blunt hooks (in comparison to Lieutenant Hooks which are bladed hooks), but if you can get past that then yes they're pretty decent.

I use pretty much the exact same setup as Hamtaru with the exception of switching out the earrings with Serpent Sergeant's Choker. It's a little extra umph to my punches and free's up the earring slot to wear Militia Earring. Though on high EVA mobs like Garuda it would probably be prudent to wear explorers.

Here's what I'm currently working towards as an Adder (just need the weapon and hands):
Point Allotment: 23str 22int
Weapon: Giantsgall Claws (+20str materia)
Head: AF Head
Body: Gridanian Officer's Overcoat
Waist: Serpent Sergeant's Belt
Hands: Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves of Slaying (2 +16 str materia or higher)
Legs: AF Pants
Feet: Serpent Sergeant's Jackboots
Earrings: Serpent Sergeant's Earrings
Neck: Serpent Sergeant's Choker
Wrist: Rubellite Bracelets
Rings: x2 Rubellite Rings

This will give you Str350 Int310; if you wanted you could still get different pants and add some str materia to them to go a little higher or if you want to keep AF pants then you could go for 2 +20's on the gloves and Str would then be 358.

With Atomos dropping seals like mad it's pretty easy to get all of the serpent gear now. This set mainly focuses on capping Str and Int, so not much room for other stats. I would like to hear some opinions.

If you wanna do GC way and is Twin Adder here is the gear you need

Head Temple or Electrum with double/tripple INT
Claws : GC
Body : GC
Belt Veteran field belt
Legs Felt trousers + 1 Double/tripple STR/VIT
Feet : GC
Hands Felt Bracers +1 with double/triple STR (need around 30-40 STR with felt or 50 str without)
Earring + neck GC
Bracelet and rings Rubelite +1

You need around 350 STR and 310 INT

I Use:

Garuda Claws
Felt Cavaliers Hat +35INT
GC Body
Veterans Field Belt
Felt Trousers +18 STR
GC Jackboots +10 int
Fingerless Raprotskin Gloves of Slaying +33 STR
GC Earring
GC Neck
Rubellite +1 x2
Zircon Bracelets +1

Im at 340 STR 319 INT 521 Attack.

Trying to figure out how to get to stat cap without Tripling my gloves or Legs.

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Originally Posted by Shosasosa

I Use:

Garuda Claws
Felt Cavaliers Hat +35INT
GC Body
Veterans Field Belt
Felt Trousers +18 STR
GC Jackboots +10 int
Fingerless Raprotskin Gloves of Slaying +33 STR
GC Earring
GC Neck
Rubellite +1 x2
Zircon Bracelets +1

Im at 340 STR 319 INT 521 Attack.

Trying to figure out how to get to stat cap without Tripling my gloves or Legs.

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You can drop the Zircon Bracelets +1 and add Rubellite Bracelets + 1 (4 STR)
Eat Smoked Raptor (+6 STR)

Nope...will only get you to 350 STR. (Which is decent)

You'd probably need Tripple Melded Gloves for caps. Not sure if it's worth the hassle to get ~6 more STR (needs about 356 on Garuda Talons)