New Tank - in Evercold

Sense this expansion is norse mythology i strong believe that are new tank or ranged dps will use "runes" in there kit

I also prodect that weapon would be warhammer/sheild very norse like. armor have fur shoulders to handle the harsh cold. combat differs greatly then that at then warrior

probably see a tank that uses thunder magics like thor, rather then being physical tank this take in full on magical or magical knight like


every new job they released it fit the new job of theme of expansion. when they advertising this expansion they used norse letters in its advert

Ranged dps is 100% believe its a crossbow we do not have a sniper like job id be interested too see how they make sniper like ranged dps work in a game that demands movement. in norse mythology they had skilled bow users and hunters. anyone read the tales of fenrir

as much as people what pirate or what corsiar it does not share the theme of this expansion so highly unlikely

I can see the new tank fitting the expansion theme. Maybe Rune Knight but wielding a hammer. I'm hoping the new ranged isn't a crossbow. Often times, the new jobs can be from regions we have yet to explore but will in the future (GNB - Garlemald, DNC - Thavanir). Hoping the new ranged hails from Merycidia and wields either a giant boomerang or a bliztball.

FF3 Viking Hammer+Shield - 2nd maintank next to Pld
Shield barbarian.

Alright here's my insane theory: It's Wand + Shield

Let's consider Yoshi-P's "Shirt tease." While it is Rhitahyn Sas Arvina on the shirt, in the past we've also had situations like a Spider-Man shirt for Samurai because "Sam Raimi made the Spider-Man films." So we can't just always take it at face value.

So I want to focus on what it says: "Guess who's back?" Back in the 1.0 version of the game, there was a form of play that some jobs could engage in which they no longer can. That being that Thaumaturge and Conjurer, and by extension Black Mage and White Mage, could both engaging in being "tanks" by equipping a one-handed arm and a shield. This allowed them higher defense, and in a way take on a Tank role. This is made more evident when we consider that 1.0 also had the Cross-Class Skill system, which meant that our two casters could gain access to Provoke and other skills from Gladiator and Marauder.

Of course that's been gone since 2.0. Yes you can still technically do it now, equipping gear that caps out at Level 50, but let's be real you're not going to. And that's understandable.

So who is back? Wand + Shield Tank. A proper Magic Tank, a Tank who casts spells, a Tank who brings mastery of magic to the forefront.

And why are they back? Because I am a Level 100 Goldsmith and I desperately want a Tank job that uses Goldsmithing for their weapons.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

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Originally Posted by Calibanana

Alright here's my insane theory: It's Wand + Shield

Let's consider Yoshi-P's "Shirt tease." While it is Rhitahyn Sas Arvina on the shirt, in the past we've also had situations like a Spider-Man shirt for Samurai because "Sam Raimi made the Spider-Man films." So we can't just always take it at face value.

So I want to focus on what it says: "Guess who's back?" Back in the 1.0 version of the game, there was a form of play that some jobs could engage in which they no longer can. That being that Thaumaturge and Conjurer, and by extension Black Mage and White Mage, could both engaging in being "tanks" by equipping a one-handed arm and a shield. This allowed them higher defense, and in a way take on a Tank role. This is made more evident when we consider that 1.0 also had the Cross-Class Skill system, which meant that our two casters could gain access to Provoke and other skills from Gladiator and Marauder.

Of course that's been gone since 2.0. Yes you can still technically do it now, equipping gear that caps out at Level 50, but let's be real you're not going to. And that's understandable.

So who is back? Wand + Shield Tank. A proper Magic Tank, a Tank who casts spells, a Tank who brings mastery of magic to the forefront.

And why are they back? Because I am a Level 100 Goldsmith and I desperately want a Tank job that uses Goldsmithing for their weapons.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

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If we're going to have a magic tank, I'd prefer their weapons to be wrist bangles and have mystic attacks/shields opposed to having an actual weapon and shield. The bangles could have glyph-like animations for ultimate and relic weapons.

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Originally Posted by Shaboinky

GNB - Garlemald

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It is worth noting that the Gunblade is originally a Bozjian weapon that far predates the Garlean Empire and in fact was used against the Allagan Empire. Garlean Gunblades are a mimic of the Bozjian Gunblades and do not even function the same. It is also worth noting that, since Gunblades existed before the invention of Guns, Guns are named after the Gunblade.

If you want to learn more, Synodic Scribe done a video detailing the history of the Gunblade and Gunbreakers, including their origin.

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If we're going to have a magic tank, I'd prefer their weapons to be wrist bangles and have mystic attacks/shields opposed to having an actual weapon and shield. The bangles could have glyph-like animations for ultimate and relic weapons.

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Honestly that would be kind of cool. I could see that working the same way some Monk weapons work, replacing the gloves you're wearing and then summoning magical looking weaponry.

Yoshi P's shirt is hinting at something themed to Garlemald, I believe. I think people are taking "two shields" too literally and the new tank job I feel has to be using a giant warhammer. And not just any kind of hammer. One that can be placed and extended out into a mega shield for the ultimate protection on the tank and party. So in a way, this would be your "barrier" tank. I think the job is gonna be more techy like GNB to be honest. We don't have a tank that can deploy structures defensively yet. Hell, let it be able to build constructs that help defensively as well.

Personally I'd love a Giant Shield+GunCannon Lance combo. Would be a pretty unique combination for the series.

Shield and Hammer with a thor inspired theme

*Pull out double shields*


"I AM FCKING INVINCIBLE!!!!"

To play devil’s advocate, I’m still not 100% sure that we will get a norse inspired job. Yes, every expansion we have gotten jobs from the regions we go to in the main story…except Shadowbringers. Since we went to a reflection in ShB they couldn’t have the new jobs originate from there due to story reasons, and we’re once again going to a reflection. So I wouldn’t be at all surprised if once again the new jobs have nothing to do with the norse themed Fourth.

That being said, just because the new jobs can’t be from the Fourth lore wise, doesn’t mean one or both couldn’t be norse themed. My understanding is that the Sea Wolf homeland of Aerslaent is supposed to be norse inspired, so we could get a sea wolf job and then still have a norse inspired job in the expansion.

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Yes, every expansion we have gotten jobs from the regions we go to in the main story

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It also fails for e.g. Dawntrail. Yes they tried to work it in there, but Viper is as japanese-coded as they could possibly do it so it naturally fits Stormblood not Dawntrail, being the near-archetypical anime dude-DWing-swords type. Picto meanwhile exemplified absolutely nothing about the areas we're in, and in fact its specific mix of colours fit the previous expansion more than anything else, particularly around Radz as they used a lot of primary strong colours and mixes between them.

They can say the jobs are from that region, but by that logic they could add a Turali royal guard as the trainer for the new shield+mace job, and just place him in Evercold because he randomly got drawn into the portal with us and tuhdaaaaah, lore explanation.

I mean sure, there isn’t anything stereotypically “native american” about Viper. But they wrote the lore for the job as being a fighting style developed by monster hunters in Tural, so that’s what Viper is. I see no reason to interpret Viper as anything other than a Turali job.

As for Pictomancer, ya, it has nothing to do with anything in Dawntrail. And as much as I liked the job quests, I do wish they were a little more integrated into some culture in the world.

But I think we’re both agreeing on the same thing, which is that the new jobs aren’t necessarily from the new regions we go to in an expansion. I just don’t want people to be disappointed if none of the new jobs are norse themed, because there’s certainly precedent for this happening.

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Originally Posted by Haventale

To play devil’s advocate, I’m still not 100% sure that we will get a norse inspired job. Yes, every expansion we have gotten jobs from the regions we go to in the main story…except Shadowbringers. Since we went to a reflection in ShB they couldn’t have the new jobs originate from there due to story reasons, and we’re once again going to a reflection. So I wouldn’t be at all surprised if once again the new jobs have nothing to do with the norse themed Fourth.

That being said, just because the new jobs can’t be from the Fourth lore wise, doesn’t mean one or both couldn’t be norse themed. My understanding is that the Sea Wolf homeland of Aerslaent is supposed to be norse inspired, so we could get a sea wolf job and then still have a norse inspired job in the expansion.

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ShB is the one expac that doesn't have jobs themed around the expansion we visit in the MSQ, however GNB is relevant to one of the pieces of side content: that being Bozja. DNC you're right on, though, since DNC is from Thavnair and we don't go there until EW. So, really, it mainly depends on what stuff we get to do during EC outside of the MSQ, since one of the jobs (or both) could get tied in with side content regions we (re)visit.

Edit: DT as well with PCT, but that's because they actively refused to tie it to any location, just saying that Archon Relm invented it, which I guess potentially could tie it to Sharlayan, but also not really.

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ShB is the one expac that doesn't have jobs themed around the expansion we visit in the MSQ, however GNB is relevant to one of the pieces of side content: that being Bozja. DNC you're right on, though, since DNC is from Thavnair and we don't go there until EW. So, really, it mainly depends on what stuff we get to do during EC outside of the MSQ, since one of the jobs (or both) could get tied in with side content regions we (re)visit.

Edit: DT as well with PCT, but that's because they actively refused to tie it to any location, just saying that Archon Relm invented it, which I guess potentially could tie it to Sharlayan, but also not really.

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Relm was name of the character in final fantasy 6 watch pic was based upon

In FF11 there was a quest called "Guess whos back?"

and guess who that quest was tied too. Runic Fencer not saying runic fencer will be part of the game. cause thats not happening

but i can see them doing norse hammer and sheild lightning tank

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Originally Posted by SakuraMidnight

Relm was name of the character in final fantasy 6 watch pic was based upon

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You had an FF6 wristwatch?! :o

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You had an FF6 wristwatch?! :o

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yah i did have nothing but ff6 posters and stuff

Or we get a Garlean Tank....


https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/69/06/8hfqCE9V_t.jpg

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Relm was name of the character in final fantasy 6 watch pic was based upon

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I know that, but specifically in the context of FF14, PCT isn't really tied down to any place and just references Relm by it being made by Archon Relm. That's really all there was to that, since a lot of other jobs are tied to places we actively visit during expansions. See DRK, AST and MCH being all from Ishgard for Heavensward, SAM and RDM being tied to Hingashi and Gyr Abania respectively for Stormblood, GNB being tied to Bozja for Shadowbringers (again, DNC is an odd duck here), RPR and SGE being tied to Garlemald and Sharlayan respectively for Endwalker and VPR being tied to Tural for Dawntrail.

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In FF11 there was a quest called "Guess whos back?"

and guess who that quest was tied too. Runic Fencer not saying runic fencer will be part of the game. cause thats not happening

but i can see them doing norse hammer and sheild lightning tank

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Now that, I'm down for. It really just depends on whether they care to tie it into a region we are going towards in the expac (likely for side content, since I'd imagine the MSQ completely takes place on the Fourth), but I'm definitely down for an elemental themed tank with a shield. Mystic Knight is still my biggest want for the game, so getting something close? Yes please c:

New ranged job could be another mislabeled job like Ranger-I mean Viper.
I'm guessing pirate themed, for really no reason other than 'Where the hell did Limsa get to where it is without someone wielding a Pirate job crystal'
I think the shirt is actually just a hint that Rhitatyn is the Tank mentor.
Somebody pointed out that 'Judge' has actually never been a job in Final Fantasy. Best guess on weaponry is gunshield + main arm

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New ranged job could be another mislabeled job like Ranger-I mean Viper.
I'm guessing pirate themed, for really no reason other than 'Where the hell did Limsa get to where it is without someone wielding a Pirate job crystal'
I think the shirt is actually just a hint that Rhitatyn is the Tank mentor.
Somebody pointed out that 'Judge' has actually never been a job in Final Fantasy. Best guess on weaponry is gunshield + main arm

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The only thing I disagree with is that Rhitahtyn will be the mentor... because he's... you know... dead. And not like Gaius "you never saw the body in the explosions" Baelsar dead. We see him die and we even encounter him again in the last leveling dungeon of Endwalker, which features all kinds of different, dead characters. Plus, unlike Gaius, Rhitahtyn wasn't ever apologetic in the things he did before he died. We can argue Gaius wasn't all that apologetic, but he was at least starting to see "hmm... maybe the Garlean Empire kind of sucks."

Everything else sounds very plausible. I could see them calling the new tank job Marshal (Guess Who's Back > Eminem > Marshall Mathers and all that logic), since while just "Judge" has never been a job in FF, "Judge Magister" has in FF Tactics Advance. Calling it Marshal would allow them to circumvent now having to introduce that whole military structure of Judges into the world that that term caries with it, especially since we already have a Gabranth in FF14 who isn't a Judge. Plus, in a funny thing, in Cutter's Cry, there is the "Myrmidon Marshal" who is the tankiest add who also protects the main boss, so they have used the term before for a tank-like thing. Not saying that particularly influences anything, just something I noticed when I got it in Leveling roulette yesterday, haha! Either way, I can definitely see it be the case that we'll get a Judge-like tank job

Imagine this a Lalafell with 2 very big shields walking towards, this will be very badass.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

Imagine this a Lalafell with 2 very big shields walking towards, this will be very badass.

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if I see that in PvP I run the other way lol

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Imagine this a Lalafell with 2 very big shields walking towards, this will be very badass.

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Yeah it sounds hilariously awesome.

I'd also absolutely love Gunshield+Sword, but notice the order. Basically Pally, but the other way around. You parry with the sword defensively, you attack with the gunshield.

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Yeah it sounds hilariously awesome.

I'd also absolutely love Gunshield+Sword, but notice the order. Basically Pally, but the other way around. You parry with the sword defensively, you attack with the gunshield.

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If that gives me a left handed weapon + shield combo, I'm down for it :P

Lalafellins our time has come, time to equip two shields.

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Lalafellins our time has come, time to equip two shields.

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We will become the wall! Or well, more like one of those brick planters

It is incredible how no one seems to care about this new tank. I am not interested in it either.

Two, three serious posts, and the rest are just about how it will look on Lalafell.

Absolutely no hype whatsover.

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Okay, lets speculate about the mount. We know DRK and GNB just got reskins of existing mounts, so Bastion will get a reskin as well I think.

My guess is a reskin of the Victor mount.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...unt)_Patch.png

Tangent : you can only be apologetic if you don't die.

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It is incredible how no one seems to care about this new tank. I am not interested in it either.

Two, three serious posts, and the rest are just about how it will look on Lalafell.

Absolutely no hype whatsover.

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Okay, lets speculate about the mount. We know DRK and GNB just got reskins of existing mounts, so Bastion will get a reskin as well I think.

My guess is a reskin of the Victor mount.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...unt)_Patch.png

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I actually really care for it, since I'm ngl, it is only tank beside PLD that kind of fits what I personally want in a tank's default aesthetic of heavier armor and shields. DRK at least gets heavier armor, but the other two not so much, so Bastion feels like it could at least potentially dethrone PLD for me as my favorite tank or at least as a definitive second place.

As for the mount... yeah, sure, I could see that being the case. We don't have any canine-esque tank mount yet, even though we have 3 felines (PLD lion, DRK coeurl/panther and GNB tiger), so why not a canine?

I care for the new tank, especially since DRK may not be able to be an ideal MT anymore in savage content. I think the hype for the job may not be there simply because they didnt go into depth about the job. We dont know its defensive kit, we dont know its invuln. We dont even know if the trailer showed all of its damage attacks. We also didnt see a counter.

There is simply too much information being missed that they could have shown but didnt. So either Tokyo fanfest will be crammed with tons of information or we all have to just wait for media tour.

Yeah exactly. I'll be hype once they actually show us the job. Right now we got at best a teaser-trailer, and those stopped hyping me for whole video games over a decade ago, nevermind for a single class in a single video game.

If you want hype, give us anything to generate hype for!

Yeah, it's not that we aren't hyped. It's just that beyond that short teaser video we can only guess how the class will work.

I like the aesthetic and yes, it will look silly on Lalafells but a lot of things do.

It's why I play one.