Black mages. . . .

In 2.0/ARR, will Black magic suck less?

Why is Thunder single target only? Why is fire AOE only? Why is Blizard so.... useless, and without 3 stages/combo? (Ice magic is my favorite :(). Where did the water magic go? And why are ancient magics (Flare, Freeze, and especially burst) so stupid?

Please fix this SE. I hate what you did to THM/BLM.

People are satisfied with being lowly-mages and not being Wizards. That's all I am gonna say, cause saying anymore will do no good.

what do wizards have to do with THM/BLM magic setup?

Because mages are satisfied with what they have now, which is why no one has a high demand for change for Thm/Blm abilities. They are fine with being good in only certain fights and not all fights.

Therefore I call them lowly mages, instead of Wizards who want to good with all their spells instead of being so limited.

Thats no excuse for this crappily setup spellset for black magic tho. A group of enemies are weak to lightning, but resistant to fire, SoL, a single enemy is weak to fire, resistant to lightning, so now you have to just settle for shit damage or use more mp on an aoe spell. Then blizzara is only good in certain situations, and water just went away. You will still be a lowly mage with a better setup.

I said it a long time ago, there was nothing wrong with the AoE toggle for spells, as long as the potency was reduced and/or MP cost was raised for AoE, which I hope they are planning at some point.

I'm hoping this is temporary and it wont be the same in ARR. With TP being full and regenerating on its own plus less animation lock, its like a indirect nerf to the THM unless they do something to help them attack at weaknesses better.

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Originally Posted by Reika

what do wizards have to do with THM/BLM magic setup?

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Don't feel obligated to respond to him. He's just being weird, and trying to role-play in forums.

I agree with your OP.

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Don't feel obligated to respond to him. He's just being weird, and trying to role-play in forums.

I agree with your OP.

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Not role-playing, just trying to make a joke out of it. I made a thread similar to this one, but alittle more detailed and all I got for responses was that everything is fine the way it is.

I wonder why they decide against classic style spells, where Fire/Thunder/Blizzard are your base spells, and they upgrade to -ra(stronger than base), -ga(aoe), and -ja(ra+ga) level spells.

Personally, I think both BLM and WHM are horribly boring in this game. All they do is cast the same 1-3 spells repeatedly. Occasionally they cast a different 1-3 spells, but not usually.

Mages need battle mechanics, not just to stand there casting the same thing repeatedly.

Obviously black mages suck, you know, considering almost a full party of them were capable of burning down Garuda within 3 minutes before they fixed her battle mechanics.

On a side note, I would like to see a little more spell diversity for them. Spamming thunder almost all the time gets to be a little dull.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

Personally, I think both BLM and WHM are horribly boring in this game. All they do is cast the same 1-3 spells repeatedly. Occasionally they cast a different 1-3 spells, but not usually.

Mages need battle mechanics, not just to stand there casting the same thing repeatedly.

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WHM's job is to cure, so aren't they more or less going to cast the same kind of spells over and over? Cure, Cura, Curaga, Regen, Esuna, occasional nuke for debuffs. There's not a lot to being a healer.

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Originally Posted by Reika

...I said it a long time ago, there was nothing wrong with the AoE toggle for spells, as long as the potency was reduced and/or MP cost was raised for AoE, which I hope they are planning at some point.

I'm hoping this is temporary and it wont be the same in ARR.With TP being fulland regenerating on its own plus less animation lock, its like a indirect nerf to the THM unless they do something to help them attack at weaknesses better.

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Use TP to toggle spells from single to AoE or focus the damages to a single target? :D

I, too, really enjoyed the AoE toggle for all spells. It was a nice feature and a bad move to take it out. Please bring it back!!!

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Personally, I think both BLM and WHM are horribly boring in this game. All they do is cast the same 1-3 spells repeatedly. Occasionally they cast a different 1-3 spells, but not usually.

Mages need battle mechanics, not just to stand there casting the same thing repeatedly.

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I personally find WHM to be entertaining. Although it's not my first pick when I get to choose what job I'm going as, I don't gripe when I'm asked to WHM. It's all really just preference. It gives you more of a sense of importance than being X-Y-Z DPS and some people really like that (I know I do.)

didnt u guys notice that some spell chain combos turn aoe into single cast, as far as spells go there is plenty. BLM has all kinds of element spells. but as far as THM goes it can heal and buff so its good for back up and can hit hard also with the spells it has, animation lock? dont you guys know how a wizards works? in role play when a mage casts a spell they enter a meditated state of of trance, thats not animation lock that is the caster prepairing to cast., if u want to stop the spell mid cast
go to CONFIG>SYSTEM and chose ACTION RESELECTION CANCEL. if u use a JA and are caught in a crack ur just sol

water will come soon for sure. mayhaps a higher lvl, take it easy

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didnt u guys notice that some spell chain combos turn aoe into single cast, as far as spells go there is plenty. BLM has all kinds of element spells. but as far as THM goes it can heal and buff so its good for back up and can hit hard also with the spells it has, animation lock? dont you guys know how a wizards works? in role play when a mage casts a spell they enter a meditated state of of trance, thats not animation lock that is the caster prepairing to cast., if u want to stop the spell mid cast
go to CONFIG>SYSTEM and chose ACTION RESELECTION CANCEL. if u use a JA and are caught in a crack ur just sol

water will come soon for sure. mayhaps a higher lvl, take it easy

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Well, pretty positive thinking but pretty much missing the point entirely. First of all, we are talking about THM, not CNJ. stone-stonra / aero - aeroa you can turn them from aoe to single target, wooptedoo. but, nothing turns thunder/thundara/tundaga from single to aoe, nothing turns fire/fira/firega from aoe to single, blizzard is always single, blizzard doesnt combo to blizzara, blizzara is always multi and is just stupidly implemented, thm/blm cannot even use stonera or aeroa, blm cannot even use stone/aero and neither of them can become multi. Blm doesnt have all kinds of elemental spells, it has 3. And all the spells you learn through job quests need to be redone. As someone said, they are just cheap debuffs and do not deserve the name of legendary black magic - and burst is an outright waste of MP.

And by animation lock I was talking about melee characters. Seen in the gameplay footage for AAR at gamecon, Weaponskill animation lock aka inability to move during a weaponskill is greatly reduced in time.

nothing is good in this current magic system. Current fights are all tunder-thundara-thunder-thundara-thunder-thundara-thunder-thundara- Freeze when you get low and need to rest MP. Thats utterly whack. BLM should be able have a larger variety of single target spells they can throw at an enemy, not thunder all day long for single, fire all day long for aoe.

naaa i didnt miss the point at all, 1st thing i wasnt speaking on "cnj" or whm ither. and as i stated before SE will add more spells for blm at higher lvls or 2.0 its a given.. not positive thinking =/ its a fact what else would u think they would do =/ , the current spells are good and do heavy damage aoe or not, the thunders can deal way more damage than dd starting out before manaburn, maybe the mobs u are bursting on are "resistant". or mayhaps u didnt notice that the damage from burst is based on low hp =/ given the fact that u and no one else have said nothing about WS and or melee on ur forum except for ur last post here, id say ur just ranting <<<<<<< and if u are meleeing mobs u cant down on blm/thm animation lock shouldnt be ur onry concern.........

Nah bro, the current setup is stupid and lazy, and i'm not ranting.

Did burst with about 200hp left and it did less than a thundaga crit. give that i can cast thundaga every much more often than burst because of its 15m cooldown, any smart person would come to the conclusion that burst is pretty stupid. you can also get way more damage just sticking to thunder-thundara for high single target damage output which any smart person who puts up with boring blm play would also do.

But this isnt really a debate about how to do damage or how to stop animation lock, which you also ignored what i was talking about.

you say i'm ranting, i say youre just trolling, givin the way you called them wizards, and just said onry.... Either that or you just cant grasp what is stupid and broken about the current magic system.

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WHM's job is to cure, so aren't they more or less going to cast the same kind of spells over and over? Cure, Cura, Curaga, Regen, Esuna, occasional nuke for debuffs. There's not a lot to being a healer.

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Yes, as a White Mage you should be casting these same kinds of Spells Fairly consistently, but there should be additional mechanics that come in to play. A Reason to move. A reason to think on your feet instead of follow a repeated pattern. This is why people clamored for that Bubble spell in the original Trailer. Even healers deserve active participation in the Battle. They should not have to stand there 100% devoted to ensuring Cure goes off.

BLM has it even worse. They don't even have to worry about let people die.

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naaa i didnt miss the point at all, 1st thing i wasnt speaking on "cnj" or whm ither. and as i stated before SE will add more spells for blm at higher lvls or 2.0 its a given.. not positive thinking =/ its a fact what else would u think they would do =/ , the current spells are good and do heavy damage aoe or not, the thunders can deal way more damage than dd starting out before manaburn, maybe the mobs u are bursting on are "resistant". or mayhaps u didnt notice that the damage from burst is based on low hp =/ given the fact that u and no one else have said nothing about WS and or melee on ur forum except for ur last post here, id say ur just ranting <<<<<<< and if u are meleeing mobs u cant down on blm/thm animation lock shouldnt be ur onry concern.........

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You must not have black mage/thaumaturge leveled.

You thinking Burst is good is more than enough proof.

Thinking any other spells besides the Thunder>Thundara combo is good and hard hitting your badly mistaken. Even mobs weak to fire, you'll do more damage with Thunder combos than Fire combos. Miser is my argument.

Flare's DoT is laughable, it's not even worth considering, it's damage isn't outstanding either for an Ancient Magic spell.

ok then SE should make all DD have on 3 weapons skills. The first 2 combo and do the most damage the 3 one does piss AoE dmg. Then i think everyonbe would know how bad BLM is really. The fact is that Blm isnt all that weak its just so liner and boring thunder thunder thunder fire. thats it.

I don't know about you guys, but I use almost all of my spells regularly throughout AV/CC speed-runs. No they're not all OMFGWTFHAXORBBQ powerful, but they all have their uses.

Thunder combo: Most damaging, and quickest to fire off. Makes sense considering that's kind of how lightning works in RL.
Blizzard/Blizzara: Blizzara sees the most use to finish off groups of near dead mobs without having to cast the slower fire spells. Entire line is for slowing down/immobilizing targets. Once again kind of ice's thing.
Fire Combo: Great AOE damage for trash mobs. Most utilized in CC for trash mobs/Princess. Set something on fire, it spreads, hence AOE.
Burst: Solid damage for a fast spell that has a relatively low MP cost. Not as strong as thundaga crits yes, but can be used to help quickly finish off bosses. So far any boss that you can use BLM on, burst comes in handy. Not the most powerful 15min, but still probably gets more use than say Dragonfire Dive or Hundred Fists.
Freeze: Amazing ability to lower enmity while still dealing fair damage.
Flare: Probably the most reliably controlled AOE in the game, adds DoT. Only downside is proximity to mobs. Not everything can be OP.

Therefore calling the current design of BLM/THM bad, is in itself. Could it be better? Yes, which class couldn't? If you ask me just making all spells do same damage with different elements, and having an AOE toggle, like you are asking for, is the real dumbed down system. At that point you only have two decisions per fight. One: What's it weak to? Two: Single or multi?

As for the complaint that not all elements are present or have same amount of tiers, well there's a limit on abilities per class, for balancing purposes, and who's to say they won't be added in later with expansions/jobs/lvl cap increase? They can't just give you everything off the bat. And using the argument about wizards vs. mages is just a lol concept.

All in all BLM is a fairly complex class when played right, so the question is: Is the system broken or is it the player's concept?

Why can't it be, I don't feel like using this spell right now, so I'll use this instead?

No it's all situational and I hate that.

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I don't know about you guys, but I use almost all of my spells regularly throughout AV/CC speed-runs. No they're not all OMFGWTFHAXORBBQ powerful, but they all have their uses.

Thunder combo: Most damaging, and quickest to fire off. Makes sense considering that's kind of how lightning works in RL.
Blizzard/Blizzara: Blizzara sees the most use to finish off groups of near dead mobs without having to cast the slower fire spells. Entire line is for slowing down/immobilizing targets. Once again kind of ice's thing.
Fire Combo: Great AOE damage for trash mobs. Most utilized in CC for trash mobs/Princess. Set something on fire, it spreads, hence AOE.
Burst: Solid damage for a fast spell that has a relatively low MP cost. Not as strong as thundaga crits yes, but can be used to help quickly finish off bosses. So far any boss that you can use BLM on, burst comes in handy. Not the most powerful 15min, but still probably gets more use than say Dragonfire Dive or Hundred Fists.
Freeze: Amazing ability to lower enmity while still dealing fair damage.
Flare: Probably the most reliably controlled AOE in the game, adds DoT. Only downside is proximity to mobs. Not everything can be OP.

Therefore calling the current design of BLM/THM bad, is in itself. Could it be better? Yes, which class couldn't? If you ask me just making all spells do same damage with different elements, and having an AOE toggle, like you are asking for, is the real dumbed down system. At that point you only have two decisions per fight. One: What's it weak to? Two: Single or multi?

As for the complaint that not all elements are present or have same amount of tiers, well there's a limit on abilities per class, for balancing purposes, and who's to say they won't be added in later with expansions/jobs/lvl cap increase? They can't just give you everything off the bat. And using the argument about wizards vs. mages is just a lol concept.

All in all BLM is a fairly complex class when played right, so the question is: Is the system broken or is it the player's concept?

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1 there is basically no need at all to slow down and enemy in this game. Miser? sorry if your not killing him before he moves at all your doing it wrong.

2 Yes trash mobs no lets add a boss that if they add thats weak to fire but has add you dont wont on you now your just reduced to Thunder and thundara. or your gonna be out of mp in a minute.

3 get out.

4 Flare dot is terrible the only time you use it is to, A kill trash mobs fast but oh wait youll need other blm to do that or the 1 blm gets raped by all the adds, like in AV if one blm does it way to early. and if the mobs dont die from the flare you arent gonna sit there and wait for the dot of flare to kill them are you? no youll do blizzara if they happen to live. which honestly the only use i found for blizzara outside the blm fight to kill the fire spirits.

5 throw in a lightning resistant mob blm is screwed. Ice line has a longer recast and doesnt combo. and fire line with drain mp so fast.

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1 there is basically no need at all to slow down and enemy in this game. Miser? sorry if your not killing him before he moves at all your doing it wrong.

2 Yes trash mobs no lets add a boss that if they add thats weak to fire but has add you dont wont on you now your just reduced to Thunder and thundara. or your gonna be out of mp in a minute.

3 get out.

4 Flare dot is terrible the only time you use it is to, A kill trash mobs fast but oh wait youll need other blm to do that or the 1 blm gets raped by all the adds, like in AV if one blm does it way to early. and if the mobs dont die from the flare you arent gonna sit there and wait for the dot of flare to kill them are you? no youll do blizzara if they happen to live. which honestly the only use i found for blizzara outside the blm fight to kill the fire spirits.

5 throw in a lightning resistant mob blm is screwed. Ice line has a longer recast and doesnt combo. and fire line with drain mp so fast.

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Obviously my argument has fallen on deaf and dumb ears, with nothing but what their own preconceived notion tell them is right. I've played BLM successfully on all major content barring Ifrit-X. You tell me that I'm doing something wrong? Sorry, my couple relics speak differently. If I have to explain the merits of gravity and bind to you, then I'm sorry, your knowledge of this games mechanics are sub-par. You're both on my server, yet I don't ever see you guys doing anything of any actual value. If you base your entire argument around personal wants and tell anyone with credible experiences that feel otherwise to get out, then you're a fool. Next time you wish to argue, please use complete sentences, so I don't wrack my brain over the fragmented mess that is your post.

If the above paragraph had too many multi-syllabic words for you, I'll simplify: Kick rocks.

Wow what the hell man, I wasn't even talking to you.

What I do with my time is help people, not bragging about having a relic. If we are gonna go down this path.

oh sorry i must bow to the relics. sorry you must know everything cause you have them. cause you know i havent done everything save for ifrit-x either. and sorry it takes me forever to save up for the 30 mil it takes for the class weapon of gae bolg or the unfortunate luck i have of not getting the 2 tier 4 materia i need to from spirit binding. but no you better than me just cause you have relics teach me your secrets dark one. oh havent seen us that cause were busy helping people and not gloating about our amany relics like a biggot.

I was using the fact that I have relics as proof that I actually know what I'm talking about, as opposed to just blowing smoke. You said I was doing something wrong, and I rebutted the fact. That's all there was to it. You're the one coming up with excuses as to why you can't get one, kid. Also, punctuation and grammar are your friend. Please use them.


And Jinrya, I was directing my previous statement towards the person who told me to get out, not you. Misunderstanding.

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Obviously my argument has fallen on deaf and dumb ears, with nothing but what their own preconceived notion tell them is right. I've played BLM successfully on all major content barring Ifrit-X. You tell me that I'm doing something wrong? Sorry, my couple relics speak differently. If I have to explain the merits of gravity and bind to you, then I'm sorry, your knowledge of this games mechanics are sub-par. You're both on my server, yet I don't ever see you guys doing anything of any actual value. If you base your entire argument around personal wants and tell anyone with credible experiences that feel otherwise to get out, then you're a fool. Next time you wish to argue, please use complete sentences, so I don't wrack my brain over the fragmented mess that is your post.

If the above paragraph had too many multi-syllabic words for you, I'll simplify: Kick rocks.

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Looks liek you were saying it to me as well, but if not, ok misunderstanding then.

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I was using the fact that I have relics as proof that I actually know what I'm talking about, as opposed to just blowing smoke. You said I was doing something wrong, and I rebutted the fact. That's all there was to it. You're the one coming up with excuses as to why you can't get one, kid. Also, punctuation and grammar are your friend. Please use them.


And Jinrya, I was directing my previous statement towards the person who told me to get out, not you. Misunderstanding.

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Ok. I'm sorry. The "you're doing it wrong" was not really ment as a personal attack. I was just trying to say that Gravity and or Heavy effect don't have all that use, since there little to no Kite fights in game.

No youre actually missing the point too. So what that you have played BLM 'Successfully'. Its spell setup is still stupid. You say adding an aoe toggle for elemental spells will dumb down the system to 2 decisions, but what is it currently? 1: is it single - thunder. 2: is it multi - fire. you have NO other options besides those two. thats retarded. this isn't about how well you do that thunder - thundara combo against a boss or how well you blow up trash with fire, and that is all blm really boils down to with this system. sometimes you would rather blow up trash with thunder and single target a boss with fire. why cant you do it that way? you cant, under this aweful system, make that choice. this system gives you only one course of action. BLM is pretty much the most brainless job to play as because of how it is. adding an aoe toggle will not dumb it down, it will make you think better about what to do. You have more choices and more branches for those choices.

Not sure if any testing was done, but in XI Gravity/Heavy reduced the targets evasion.
I don't know if this is an effect in XIV but it's worth a mention I figured.

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Not sure if any testing was done, but in XI Gravity/Heavy reduced the targets evasion.
I don't know if this is an effect in XIV but it's worth a mention I figured.

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I dont want ice magic to be weak damaging debuffs tho.... nor any elemental attack magic. thats what the current magic system is, especially for conj actually. All their magic attacks are debuffs in some way, because they decided to strip out a lot of good spells like paralyze, blind, bind, etc and attach them onto elemental spells which was a very stupid idea. All so they can globally reduce every classes skill count to 15. but it wasn't good for thm, because there are too many magic spells they had to kill or combine which created the broken magic system in the first place.

I really wish they would release some kind of info on the new combat system (they only said it is changing again) to quell some unrest.

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I don't know about you guys, but I use almost all of my spells regularly throughout AV/CC speed-runs. No they're not all OMFGWTFHAXORBBQ powerful, but they all have their uses.

Thunder combo: Most damaging, and quickest to fire off. Makes sense considering that's kind of how lightning works in RL.
Blizzard/Blizzara: Blizzara sees the most use to finish off groups of near dead mobs without having to cast the slower fire spells. Entire line is for slowing down/immobilizing targets. Once again kind of ice's thing.
Fire Combo: Great AOE damage for trash mobs. Most utilized in CC for trash mobs/Princess. Set something on fire, it spreads, hence AOE.
Burst: Solid damage for a fast spell that has a relatively low MP cost. Not as strong as thundaga crits yes, but can be used to help quickly finish off bosses. So far any boss that you can use BLM on, burst comes in handy. Not the most powerful 15min, but still probably gets more use than say Dragonfire Dive or Hundred Fists.
Freeze: Amazing ability to lower enmity while still dealing fair damage.
Flare: Probably the most reliably controlled AOE in the game, adds DoT. Only downside is proximity to mobs. Not everything can be OP.

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I'm sorry man, but all of those skills when used by a BLM are the exact same thing. They deal damage. That is all BLMs do. They add nothing else to the fight. Adding Enfeebles to Direct Damage Spells was the worst Design decision to date, and that includes Fatigue.

Black Mages are supposed to have powerful Nukes. Doing massive Damage in spikes is supposed to be their job. But it should not be their only viable use. Strategic enfeebles should be a part of their gameplay. Not enfeeble as a chance happening. Dark Magic should exist in this game. Yoshida said he wanted to base our Mages off the Older Final Fantasy games but he removed all of the diversity. All of the flavor spells are gone.

When it comes to fighting a Boss in this game, BLMs use 1 Combo set and, sometimes, one Ancient Magic. It is truely a sad sad Day when Straight Melees like MNK and DRG are more complex than any Mage. Especially the Mage who is supposed to have "Dark Magic".

They don't even have Drain and Aspir/Osmose...

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I dont want ice magic to be weak damaging debuffs tho.... nor any elemental attack magic. thats what the current magic system is, especially for conj actually. All their magic attacks are debuffs in some way, because they decided to strip out a lot of good spells like paralyze, blind, bind, etc and attach them onto elemental spells which was a very stupid idea. All so they can globally reduce every classes skill count to 15. but it wasn't good for thm, because there are too many magic spells they had to kill or combine which created the broken magic system in the first place.

I really wish they would release some kind of info on the new combat system (they only said it is changing again) to quell some unrest.

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Agreed, Ice is my favourite element too :/

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Agreed, Ice is my favourite element too :/

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Mine too. /10char

All I have to say about this thread is can we get some content in this game that isn't solved by just throwing more black mages at it? Its feeling the same as 11, where most content just required you to throw more BLM at it.

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All I have to say about this thread is can we get some content in this game that isn't solved by just throwing more black mages at it? Its feeling the same as 11, where most content just required you to throw more BLM at it.

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what like toau that blm completely useless?

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All I have to say about this thread is can we get some content in this game that isn't solved by just throwing more black mages at it? Its feeling the same as 11, where most content just required you to throw more BLM at it.

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that might change in AAR when everyone starts with full TP. Blm are good because they can start off bursting. no need to build up TP to cast spells. BLM is also just rediculosly easy to use. boss - thunder. trash mobs - fire. Z z z z z.


I think it was said that they are trying to get away from the whole class/job stacking thing, and I really hope they do.

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that might change in AAR when everyone starts with full TP. Blm are good because they can start off bursting. no need to build up TP to cast spells. BLM is also just rediculosly easy to use. boss - thunder. trash mobs - fire. Z z z z z.


I think it was said that they are trying to get away from the whole class/job stacking thing, and I really hope they do.

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That might bring up another problem. If other DDs can do the damage that black can do at the start, then why does Black Mage get penalized with lowest HP and Armor of the classes?

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That might bring up another problem. If other DDs can do the damage that black can do at the start, then why does Black Mage get penalized with lowest HP and Armor of the classes?

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I don't know that it's worthwhile to speculate on game balance in 2.0 since we really don't know anything about anything regarding it.

That said, I also hope they diversify BLM greatly. It's kind of sad that FF11 BLM is more interesting to play (by far) than FF14 BLM. I always assumed the current setup for mages was temporary and experimental, and probably due to the fact that you can only have X number of abilities in the current version.

It's probably not even worth it to respond to folks who think BLM is great as is, or that you're an idiot/don't know how to play BLM if you don't like it. Likely these are the same people who love playing Final Fantasy Lottery instead of a real game, where nearly all content is super easy and all the "challenge" is not quitting the game before you get the 1-2 dozen things you want that all have a 1% or less drop rate.

I don't mind elemental spells having a situational effect (I think it's kind of cool that MNK's fists all do different stuff, for example - though I hope they also expand out to all 6 elements), just not to the point it is now, where you will literally always use X spell in X situation, regardless of elemental resistance of the mob (lol... this is probably the real reason a lot of folks don't want it changed - because you have to put pretty much zero thought into this... if ur chargin ur Thun-der beamz, ur doin it rite!).

Yoshida said it himself in that last interview that TP will start out full in AAR. That gameplay footage showed that as well.