Really stupid question on MP recovery

I was in a skirmish group and one of my BLMs was periodically sitting down in the middle of a fight. I asked and he claimed you recover MP faster if you do that. I'd never seen anyone do that before today. Is that really true? If so, when was that put in?

I'm not sure. I've been told that as well, and tried it. I really didn't notice a difference, though.

Placebo effect for the most part, you're just "forced" stationary when you're sitting which is how you gain faster/higher hp & mp/tic.

Midway through Moogle Phase 2, the two White Mages of my LS were having that exact discussion (they were quite dry from nuking during Phase 1).
One of them decided "I'll prove it, look *sits*" and counts, and then "... Crap!" and it did not work at all!
Yeah, it's silly

It does not recover faster, it just FORCES you to sit still, I however, wanted a /rest and everyone was like EEEW. But no, it doesn't recover faster, standing still recovers the same amount as sitting, though easier to move, and if you move you recover a little slower.

This is coming from a guy who doesn't know anything about the game, because I only have two 50s and play off and on~ So, it's your choice to believe me or not.

Doesn't matter if your sitting or just standing still, but no point in sitting, doesn't recover faster. :p

standing still for X amount of time helps you recover MP faster. before /facetarget, using /sit allowed you to force the server to recognize you'd stopped moving, to squeeze out an extra tick or two of mp regen before you had to move again. now that we have /facetarget, though, it's basically pointless to use /sit

Standing stationary still is what recoveres it faster. Sitting has the same effect.

Edit: Just realized the poster above me wrote the same thing =/

It doesn't recover MP faster, but what it DOES do is make the system realize faster that you're still. MP regeneration ticks up slowly when you are moving without enmity and in passive mode...but it ticks up much faster when you're still.

Where sitting comes in, is that SOMETIMES (okay, LOTS of times), the system can take several seconds (10-15 sometimes) to realize that you're not just in passive, but also are sitting still. Sitting down makes it realize this immediately and it will jump straight to fast-tick regeneration.

So yes, sitting actually does help.

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Originally Posted by Punainen

It doesn't recover MP faster, but what it DOES do is make the system realize faster that you're still. MP regeneration ticks up slowly when you are moving without enmity and in passive mode...but it ticks up much faster when you're still.

Where sitting comes in, is that SOMETIMES (okay, LOTS of times), the system can take several seconds (10-15 sometimes) to realize that you're not just in passive, but also are sitting still. Sitting down makes it realize this immediately and it will jump straight to fast-tick regeneration.

So yes, sitting actually does help.

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Sounds like bologna.

/sit forces you out of aggro stance. I don't see it doing anything in and of itself.

I was curious about this so decided to test for myself. I had 2 WHM use Holy at the same time. One of them did /sit immediately afterwards whilst the other remained standing. I can confirm the WHM who was standing achieved full MP faster than the one who was sitting. I assume this is because no MP was recovered during the long /sit animation. Try this and you will see sitting has no benefit whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by fusional

standing still for X amount of time helps you recover MP faster. before /facetarget, using /sit allowed you to force the server to recognize you'd stopped moving, to squeeze out an extra tick or two of mp regen before you had to move again. now that we have /facetarget, though, it's basically pointless to use /sit

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Doesn't seem seem like the following posters read this ...

Hitting your facetarget key does make you hit the high mp recovery period faster (like /sit does).

In most groups I'm in sitting is just the casters way of saying "don't count on me right now, I'm recovering mp," without having to text anything.

The only thing that matters is the time being stationary (and therefore forcing the server to recognize this more quickly, now doable by /facetarget ('H' by default) as mentioned above).

/sit is just considered as an emote. It doesn't bring anything gameplay wise.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Doesn't seem seem like the following posters read this ...

Hitting your facetarget key does make you hit the high mp recovery period faster (like /sit does).

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Yes but the sit animation takes about 4 seconds, during which time you are not recovering MP. It only takes 1-2 seconds at most for the server to acknowledge you are not moving (this is without /facetarget). Hence, sitting offers no regen benefit and actually wastes time.

sitting while resting on a eruption. Nuff sais

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Originally Posted by Punainen

It doesn't recover MP faster, but what it DOES do is make the system realize faster that you're still. MP regeneration ticks up slowly when you are moving without enmity and in passive mode...but it ticks up much faster when you're still.

Where sitting comes in, is that SOMETIMES (okay, LOTS of times), the system can take several seconds (10-15 sometimes) to realize that you're not just in passive, but also are sitting still. Sitting down makes it realize this immediately and it will jump straight to fast-tick regeneration.

So yes, sitting actually does help.

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looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

In most groups I'm in sitting is just the casters way of saying "don't count on me right now, I'm recovering mp," without having to text anything.

The only thing that matters is the time being stationary (and therefore forcing the server to recognize this more quickly, now doable by /facetarget ('H' by default) as mentioned above).

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Party MP bars are displayed so.... yeah... lol

All it does is make it harder to move towards targets you need to nuke/heal or away from attacks.

Sitting helps. As people said it forces you out of action. If you simply stand yes it will eventually kick in and I think the gradual effect is slower when standing too but that just by my observations, maybe I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by OctaviusEvergreen

Yes but the sit animation takes about 4 seconds, during which time you are not recovering MP. It only takes 1-2 seconds at most for the server to acknowledge you are not moving (this is without /facetarget). Hence, sitting offers no regen benefit and actually wastes time.

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We're saying that using facetarget does the same job as /sit, but in a real effective way .....

Haven't tried it with facetarget yet, i will in a bit.

/sit is not the same as restign in XI. It how does start a faster max regen in beign still. If I am already still and gettign the tick no need to sit at all. Hopefully the server realizing it will be fixed soon or in ARR.

In theory /facetarget should cause the same effect, some say it is more delayed but I will see. I really don't like people who sit on the job.

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Originally Posted by TaalAzura

Sounds like bologna.

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Try playing Pugilist with a 'fists of' on for a while and see if you still think its balogna.

they think they're still in ffxi lol. i've seen some ppl do this on ifrit

So... using sit effectively means you get a tick back... but you need to wait for the animation of both sitting down and getting back up before you can cast again meaning you just lost what you gained.

And if you stop moving THEN sit ... you are gaining nothing, except enmity from your party members for being foolish.

Personally I like to simply be efficient with my MP and get into my position/s quickly.

The entire process of "standing still" to regain MP is ridiculous and makes casters incredibly dull. MP needs to regen regardless of your movement.

Stationary mage syndrome is a bad mechanic.

/sit is a left over from people who played FFXI as you had to rest there in order to recover MP.
Here, MP recover rate increases the moment the server recognizes you have stopped moving.
Up to you to decide the fastest way to tell the server you've stopped moving.

Me, I just stop moving.

It might be interesting to know that you regen 7% of your max MP per regen tick when standing, and I think it goes up to 9% when standing with shroud of saints on.

Might be useful for you guys to know.

I'm going with the "combating packet loss" theory. The act of sitting doesn't make you gain more mp per tick, but it could force the server to recognize that you are standing still, which would in turn give you more mp per tick. I've tested it and have noticed more mp per tick, but I think it's because the server recognized that i was stationary more quickly rather than being directly attributed to the act of sitting. After all, we all know the servers have a huge issue with packet loss. I'd say that sitting has a chance of giving you more mp, but due to difference in mp of sitting or not sitting, and the amount of time it takes to sit then get back up, i wouldn't recommend it in an ifrit fight, or skirmish, or anywhere else where the time it takes for the animation to sit and stand could cost you the win.

the whole sitting for MP is a stupid habit of ffxi players who needed to go into a rest mode

in ffxiv standing or sitting is the same there is not speed deffrence between the 2

sitting takes longer as you wont start recovering untill after you sit then you need to stand up to be usefull again


my suggestion is to kick them from party for being dumb and useless and get a replacment

Use /facetarget key.

Sitting leaves you vulnerable to attack.