Certain Gear Still Looks Low Quality Even After Graphics Update Has Been Applied.

Certain older gear pieces are still extremely low-quality in terms of graphical fidelity, even after the Graphics Update has been applied to them. Notably:
-Gambler's Trenchcoat
-Yanxian Merchant's Haori
I'm sure there are many other examples, but there are horrendously low-quality textures on both of these, and the materials didn't get the same love that the Artifact Armor updates did. I feel like everything should get equal treatment instead of some pieces of gear obviously getting more love than others.

Were those pieces actually updated? Because well over half of the game's equipment has not yet been updated. Also, things that were given a dual dye channel aren't necessarily updated either.

They said the Graphics Update would take place in Dawntrail patches, not just at Dawntrail release.

They stopped doing the Graphics Update silently. We saw very little of it in the first patch or two, and then it just completely dropped off. I doubt they gave up, so my assumption is they hit a major roadblock and are instead going to roll the rest of it out at 8.0 launch. That's my assumption, but we'll see. It may have been something like needing to overhaul something or not being able to do it in phases like they thought they could.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They said the Graphics Update would take place in Dawntrail patches, not just at Dawntrail release.

They stopped doing the Graphics Update silently. We saw very little of it in the first patch or two, and then it just completely dropped off. I doubt they gave up, so my assumption is they hit a major roadblock and are instead going to roll the rest of it out at 8.0 launch. That's my assumption, but we'll see. It may have been something like needing to overhaul something or not being able to do it in phases like they thought they could.

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Thats not true. They have been slowly updating npcs and their character's gear. Ive been tracking many of them. In the last patch (7.4), we had updates to Gaia and Ryne. And we also had gear upgrades for these characters attire: Gosetsu, Minfilia, Alma's dress, Ryne's Oracle set, Y'shtola's ShB dress, Fat Cat loungewear and the Palaka gear set. The patch notes even made mention of face edits for eyebrows on Face 2 Miqote. Plus many hats added for Hroth and Viera.


I have been tracking the changes and waiting specifically for Moenbryda and Papalymo to get some love as they are the last Scion's who havent been updated yet and Moen's hair clips into her head massively now! To be fair, I am getting annoyed that some major characters havent been overhauled yet... *cough cough* ZENOS!

A lot of pieces simply haven't been updated, as they haven't updated everything yet...

In fact with some of these things you are more than likely not going to see the original asset updated, but rather just a reskin into an entirely new item, which they have done quite a lot when it comes to reusing assets.

I've actually been wondering if they are going to do a random graphics patch somewhere to address more of the remaining npcs/gears later. Or do they intend to drag overhaul updates into 8.0 and beyond....

There are also a lot of changes Id like to see moving forward such as texture updates to buildings/rugs/dishes/monsters/etc. As an example, if you replay the Uldah/Gridania opening cutscenes, the chocobo carriage you ride in on has a lot of glaringly bad textures that could be improved. The drawers behind Miounne in the Carline Canopy in Gridania are another area that look horrendous and catch my attention.

Honestly as long as they keep overhauling assets, I wont grumble about it. But I do hope they dont stop entirely. No matter how long it takes, the changes are worth it!

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Originally Posted by Vespar

Thats not true. They have been slowly updating npcs and their character's gear. Ive been tracking many of them. In the last patch (7.4), we had updates to Gaia and Ryne. And we also had gear upgrades for these characters attire: Gosetsu, Minfilia, Alma's dress, Ryne's Oracle set, Y'shtola's ShB dress, Fat Cat loungewear and the Palaka gear set. The patch notes even made mention of face edits for eyebrows on Face 2 Miqote.

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If that's the case, why weren't they in the patch notes? And when there are patch notes, hardly anything gets changed.

For example, they've changed a set of relic weapons and a few NPCs/mogstation items. Or they've updated Western Thanalan. And... that seems like it? If they are doing much more without including it in the notes, then that's very strange.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

If that's the case, why weren't they in the patch notes? And when there are patch notes, hardly anything gets changed.

For example, they've changed a set of relic weapons and a few NPCs/mogstation items. Or they've updated Western Thanalan. And... that seems like it? If they are doing much more without including it in the notes, then that's very strange.

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It is in the patch notes. Not everything has been exhaustively notated, but the 7.4 notes explicitly state a list of gear and "certain NPCs" have had their gear and models improved.

I think the only open-world zones we're waiting to be updated are parts of Coerthas and Rak'tika.

The definitely haven't updated all the gear yet; I hope they do get around to it, but there is still 7.5 left to do and then the mini-patches as they finish releasing 7.5. It may be that everything will have to wait until 8.0, but they're still plugging away at it.

They probably should've made a special site for the graphics update to show its progress, because it's become kind of ambiguous. Are they done updating character appearances, or are we going to get another update and another fantasia? How complete is the graphics update? Unless you've got your own checklist it's kind of hard to keep track of what has and hasn't been updated yet.

Basically they've updated everything that is in the online store, important npcs outfits (Scions, rulers...), most of the job gears (6.0, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, not sure about 5.0), same for the relics and some glams but there's still a lot to update, all the dungeons/raid/tomestone gears and more. We don't even know if they will update every gear.

We're also waiting for the rework of the remaining areas (the 2 Coerthas areas, Rak'tika, Ultima Thulé, The Tempest, Mor Dhona...).
No idea if they will also update the old mounts/minion, quite unlikely.

And I would not be surprised if they announce more graphics updates in the fanfest as the one of Dawntrail was quote: "the first graphics update".

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Originally Posted by OdrN

We're also waiting for the rework of the remaining areas (the 2 Coerthas areas, Rak'tika, Ultima Thulé, The Tempest, Mor Dhona...).

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I don't know what, specifically, they've done or not done with Mor Dhona and The Tempest, but they've definitely worked on them in some capacity--Mor Dhona looks very different than it used to, and The Tempest had a pretty wild bug for awhile that made Amaurot perfectly visible as soon as as one arrived, which was quite the spoiler. Rak'tika, though...that zone needs a spit-shine.

I know they called those zones out specifically in the patch notes as not having had certain adjustments, but something has been done to them. Except maybe Rak'tika, it really does stand out now compared to the rest.

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Originally Posted by Astronis

I don't know what, specifically, they've done or not done with Mor Dhona and The Tempest, but they've definitely worked on them in some capacity--Mor Dhona looks very different than it used to, and The Tempest had a pretty wild bug for awhile that made Amaurot perfectly visible as soon as as one arrived, which was quite the spoiler. Rak'tika, though...that zone needs a spit-shine.

I know they called those zones out specifically in the patch notes as not having had certain adjustments, but something has been done to them. Except maybe Rak'tika, it really does stand out now compared to the rest.

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Mor Dhona is mostly just a victim of how fucked the lighting and now-mandatory bloom can be. Coerthas hasn't been updated, but all the ice in the cave with Halone's prayer rock glows now.

Every areas benefited from the graphical update concerning textures, lighting, foliage, but every other areas have also been reworked more intensely with some vegetation additions, more diverse or different textures.

https://i.imgur.com/R1ubUQ5.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/Ap0a1ox.jpeg

That explain why Mor Dhona already looks different with the changes in how crystals looks like but the zone still have not received that final "polish".
I really don't know why these ones were left behind.

For Halone's cave, it surely shine differently xD

BEFORE
https://i.imgur.com/2r6LYFx.jpeg

AFTER
https://i.imgur.com/7Eo8dM3.jpeg

I looked through the patches and 7.1 and 7.2 were the strongest updates, massively overhauling objects, vegetation and shadows across all pre-DT zones.

The problem is that I didn't myself notice these revamps at all except the one they showed in Western Thanalan, so I came to believe it only affected Western Thanalan and nowhere else.

And clearly the gearsets have consistently just been improvements to the NPC outfits and relics, and ignored 99% of the pixelated gear in the game.

According to patch notes:

• 7.1: Model quality, texture resolution, and material qualities of NPC faces have been improved. Texture resolution, material qualities and graphical details of gear have been improved. Player character models adjusted due to feedback. Eyes reflect environment. Transparency added for 13 pieces of gear and certain glasses. Toe detail improved. Mount tilt improved. Shadows, Vegetation, texture quality, object count and polygon count improved in 2.0 areas. Shadows improved in all pre-DT instances. Affected gear: Thancred's sets, Alisaie's gear, Alphinaud's gear, Crystarium mogstation set, Orthodox Trousers of Striking, Y'shtola's sets, Krile's set, Urianger's set.
  
  Summary: 10 sets of gear improved. All 2.0 zones revamped. Shadows improved in all pre-DT instances and 2.0 areas. Player models and toes improved a lot. Eyes reflect environment. Transparency added for 13 gear pieces and some glasses.
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• 7.2: Model quality, texture resolution, and material qualities of NPC faces have been improved. Texture resolution, material qualities and graphical details of gear have been improved. Shadows improved a lot and added to in a few public areas. Vegetation, texture quality, object count and polygon count improved in 3.x-6.x areas. Affected gear: ARR relics, ARR artifact gear, Housemaid gear, Summer Sunset gear, Street gear, Magitek gear, Woodland Warden gear, Yda gear, Lyse gear, Aymeric gear.
  
  Summary: 10 sets of gear improved. Most Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers and Endwalker zones revamped. Shadows significantly improved. Player models improved a lot. By far the strongest graphics update in post-patches.
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• 7.3: Model quality, texture resolution, and material qualities of NPC faces have been improved. Texture resolution, material qualities and graphical details of gear have been improved. Player character models adjusted due to feedback. Affected gear: Endwalker artifact gear, Manderville relic weapons, 255 and 320 Samurai weapon, Sage and Reaper Virtu gear, Stormblood Garlean gear, Hien gear.
  
  Summary: 5 sets of gear improved. Player models improved a lot.
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• 7.4: Model quality, texture resolution, and material qualities of NPC faces have been improved. Texture resolution, material qualities and graphical details of gear have been improved: Paladin Divine Light weapon, Palaka weapons, Gosetsu gear, Minfilia gear, Alma gear, Ryne gear, Fat Cat gear, Gaia gear, Zero gear.
  
  Summary: 9 sets of gear improved.

We still have several patches left before 8.0, and 8.0 itself will likely continue with tweaks here and there.

This is exactly as they stated it would go, with some characters being updated immediately and others over the course of Dawntrail.

Lots of older gear and cosmetics still uses low resolution textures and they probably won't get updated anytime soon when they have being updating textures of older gear and cosmetics quite slowly.

I really don't care if many of older gear and cosmetic won't get graphical updated because this entire graphics update have being nothing more then complete mess and release of graphics update should have being delayed at least to 9.0.

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Originally Posted by LanceSummers

Certain older gear pieces are still extremely low-quality in terms of graphical fidelity, even after the Graphics Update has been applied to them. Notably:
-Gambler's Trenchcoat
-Yanxian Merchant's Haori
I'm sure there are many other examples, but there are horrendously low-quality textures on both of these, and the materials didn't get the same love that the Artifact Armor updates did. I feel like everything should get equal treatment instead of some pieces of gear obviously getting more love than others.

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Those items may not have been updated yet. The process is going to take a very long time. Even then, there's usually still a visual distinction between older items that got updated and brand new ones made from scratch post-7.0. Sprucing up the textures is only going to do so much.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

If that's the case, why weren't they in the patch notes?

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They don't notate everything they update in the patch notes. I've seen many housing items get updated without any mention of it in the notes.

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Originally Posted by RedLolly

We still have several patches left before 8.0

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They only mention graphics ones in the major patches. So we only have 1 left.

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This is exactly as they stated it would go, with some characters being updated immediately and others over the course of Dawntrail.

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My expectation was that the gear would get upgraded. All that pixelated gear that even Yoshi-P was wearing in a Dawntrail preview. It seems like a drop in the ocean as far as gear goes, and it's mostly just the gear NPCs use or mog station items. It just seems like it tapered off.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

They don't notate everything they update in the patch notes. I've seen many housing items get updated without any mention of it in the notes.

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Perhaps they don't but then I have no way to know.

Im honestly questioning if they will use some of the time between now and 8.0 to do graphical changes like this, or if theyintend to just hold it all (or none) until 8.0 launches. I guess we'll see once the fanfests air whether they intend to address more. I certainly hope they do. There are several npcs which I wish would get some love (Zenos, Fordola, Papalymo, Moen, Matoya, Count Edmont, etc)

There are a bunch of lesser npcs with old or young faces that need fixes also and they stand out horribly next to the upgraded ones. Like E-sumi yan for example...

I'd love to see the ARR stuff get updated! Not even double dyes, just the textures. Their materials were actually downgraded from 1.0, because they were launching a more efficient version.
There's a lot of really cool gear there, that gets obscured by the lack of detail.