So I was around Limsa Upper near the cullinarian guild and I saw this:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...822&height=463
If the sign color key (which are persistent between cities), its pointing to a guild that doesnt exist. It makes it seem like the admirals gunslinger class was going to be available at one point but might have been scrapped?
Scrapped guild?
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03-23-2026, 10:02 AMKaristonsWrathScrapped guild?
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03-23-2026, 10:21 AMDestati
Yeah, I believe a "Musketeer" class/job was intended, I'm not sure if it's holdover from 1.0 or was meant to be a new 2.0 class. Interesting how they never removed it. Obviously we have MCH now so it's hard to imagine how Musketeer could see the light of day. Maybe if combined with Cannoneer. A dual-pistol job sounds neat
especially with no lunchbox. -
03-23-2026, 11:14 AMVeyaAkemiWe have 6 Jobs that use some style of sword, PLD DRK GNB SAM VPR RDM, I think it is fair to say another gun job that uses its gun in a completely different manner would be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destati
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03-23-2026, 01:02 PMAbsurdityIt is pretty much just a remnant of 1.0Quote:
Originally Posted by Destati
Musketeer was one of the planned classes during 1.0, together with Fencer, Enforcer, Arcanist (supposedly very different from the one we got), Mystic and Assassin. -
03-23-2026, 01:04 PMJeeqbit
They did advertise Machinist in the MSQ by having Merlwyb do things with a gun. But due to it being a Heavensward job, they placed it in Ishgard. If they made the job today, they would obviously have put it in Limsa Lominsa, probably where ever that sign is pointing.
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03-23-2026, 02:02 PMKaristonsWrathThat is so cool to learn. I kind of wish these got realisedQuote:
Originally Posted by Absurdity
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03-23-2026, 02:21 PMEnkidoh
From what I understand most of those planned but never implemented classes either never really existed in any tangeable form save a name and a rough idea how it was meant to function, and what was done on them has undoutabley been cannibialized for current Jobs (MSK clearly was used for MCH - so much so a 1.0 MSK NPC was involved in the early MCH Job quests to teach the player gunplay, FCR probably was built on for RDM, Mystic served as AST's foundation, etc etc).
I have heard anecdotes though about 1.0's Alpha test that MSK and 1.0 ACN did get to a playable stage and were in fact playable by testers, but for whatever reason were quickly removed and never brought back upon 1.0's release. Whether that is true or not I cannot say, as I was not on the 1.0 Alpha or Beta tests, and NDA would still probably be in effect for it anyway, so it's entirelly possible it's just an urban legend.
There was also a fourth Disciple of the Land (gatherer) class called Shepherd that was never implemented either, but had a class icon and a locked guildhall in 1.0 Falcon's Nest (unlike the MSK's Guild, this did not survive into ARR). -
03-23-2026, 04:49 PMAbsurdityYeah, most of them were incredibly barebones if not in early concept stages and never got released. The most we have is the Musketeer NPCs in the Marauder's guild that existed in 1.0 and still do now, with a flintlock pistol and a basic shooting animation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
I wouldn't even be surprised if the ideas for Musketeer and old Arcanist were merged into Machinist, since 1.0 Arcanist was supposed to use some kind of aether gadgets.
Although I wouldn't say no to a gunslinger job with less pointless flips and rocket launchers.
This one should honestly make a comeback. I imagine it was meant to be for collecting the monster materials like meat, feathers, bones, scales, etc that we currently have to farm by laboriously killing enemies that drop them or sending out combat retainers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
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03-23-2026, 07:09 PMKaristonsWrathI picture something similar to how Lady plays in Devil May Cry 4 (just minus the rocket launcher)Quote:
Originally Posted by Absurdity
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03-23-2026, 11:43 PMRedLolly
Yeah, a regular gunner is a really highly requested job as Machinist drifts further and further away. Shoot, the quest series has us hunting down our Lominsan corsair trainer that bailed from the job in Ishgard. It was SUPPOSED to be Machinist, but not anymore.
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03-24-2026, 02:51 AMCaptainLagbeard
From what I understand, 1.x was supposed to get a Musketeer class, but as the game failed it never got added... Then ARR never added it either.
It probably would've been MCH's base class, but they decided to stop doing that in HW. -
03-24-2026, 07:15 AMAidorouge
Arguably, Machinist was always "Tools first, guns second" because Edgar never used a gun yet almost every single Tool he used has been lifted for Machinist to use (only Noiseblaster, Flash, and Debilitator are unaccounted for). Even with regards to Mustadio, its job's main gimmick was the Snipe skills with Head Graze and Foot Graze effectively being Arm Shot and Leg Shot (only Seal Evil was left out) with guns not being exclusive to his job. Not to say there shouldn't be a primarily gun skill using job ala Musketeer/Gunner/Corsair/Cannoneer/etc, but rather I get why FF14 Machinist leans more on Tools and debuffs (including Dismantle) than full gunplay.
But speaking of axed content from 1.0, the Pugilists Guild's attached "Platinum Mirage" was probably going to be the game's "mini-game hub" in Ul'dah (complete with its own dice signage) but was likely replaced by the Gold Saucer in function while being made into a separate zone. -
03-24-2026, 09:16 AMJeeqbitThe original implementation in Heavensward was very gun-oriented. Literally just cartridges and recharging them. The main machine we had was a turret. But it felt less exciting to play than Bard did through Stormblood, so they reworked it to focus on machines and tools.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aidorouge
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03-24-2026, 04:40 PMAbsurdityIt's pretty funny that to this day the NPC still talks about it being this exclusive club, when it was never more than a closed elevator door with no elevator inside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aidorouge