advanced variant dungeon

i like it, pls more of it.

its the lvl of difficulty i wanted for quite some time, but we rarely ever got. (cidolphus at release)
wiping a few times to each boss but completely doable without guide or having to bash your head against the wall for a long time.

thank you. it was more fun than the 189th mount ever could be.

I haven't done it yet, but it's good to see that at least 1 person actually appreciates the much-requested midcore content.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Having done this a lot now, I'd like to say that it's achieved the feat of being midcore content.

My first time, I did it blind. I died lots of times and got resurrected lots. Most of the bosses were 1-shots, while others were 2-shots.

Over time I've got a lot better at it and then helped carry others through it. Which is exactly how I'd expect MMO content to actually work.

Even when you know the fight you will die sometimes. Forget things. Lose concentration. Kill another player. Something there's no prospect of in a lot of content where the attack won't even kill you, nor impact anyone else. It's a lot more satisfying because of that.

If you can do normal dungeon mechanics without getting hit, you can certainly do this, even if you die a lot the first times.

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I’m hoping to play it with others too.

I've cleared it in Duty Finder so many times already. Even 2-manned it with a friend a few times and it's very doable.
Will be easy to farm in the future when it dies down unlike Chaotic/Criterions.

I have to admit that doing and clearing this blind with my best friend was genuinely some of the most fun PvE I had experienced in this game in a long, long time. This is the first time in forever where, outside of savage, they actually got to use their WHM kit, too--though that might have been because we're currently a lower end ilvl DPS + Healer. Regardless, we liked it a lot. A rare variation of difficulty to see of late, where its difficulty is engaging but not so rigid as to require scheduling. It reminds me of the direction they took with Doomtrain's EX version as well, which I also liked significantly better than prior modern EX fights.

Ive also been having a boat load of fun with advanced! Ive only ran it 2 times with the party finder but both times we where able to kill the mermaid, the new spin on the mechanics was fun to catch onto, along with the new ones throwing me for a loop. Currently stuck on the carpet woman, but its been extremely fun to play. I hope they put out more dungeons like this one soon

I haven't tried it yet (only done some solo runs of regular variant) but it really seems to fit perfectly in the middle for difficulty, perfect for someone like me!
Excited to give it a shot in DF or with a friend!

Thought it was alot of fun too. It's the middle difficulty I always wanted. def easier than extreme, but still more than normal content. I loved that I could just 2 or 3 man it aswell. Makes it quick and easy to just jump into for some fun.

I love the Advanced formula. It is so much fun to just jump into Duty Finder. It feels like the most dynamic combat in this game. You can get any combination of job roles, any combination of player skill-levels, any number and order of the bosses. The boss attacks feel fast-paced but there are multiple solutions possible. It's nice not to have to know how every mechanic works one at a time like regular prog: every time I go back in I figure out how some mechanic works that originally stumped me earlier but didn't actually force a wipe. The evolutions of the mechanics from Variant to Advanced also feel like they are evolutions of mechanics rather than just throwing in stack/spreads or introducing super complicated entirely new mechanics. This mode is the perfect level for players who have had a long day and still want some challenge without needing to be at peak performance or are enjoying a recreational beverage. The removal of DPS checks and making the fights feel more like endurance races is a nice change of pace.

I would love to see some sort of Advanced Dungeons in the future where they give this level of treatment to Normal Dungeon bosses: no trash mobs, just faster four-player bosses with evolutions on their attack patterns. If all four players are using a Duty Roulette and they have cleared the Normal Dungeon, I wouldn't mind randomly being given the Advanced Dungeon version. 8) Hopefully they create enough Advanced Dungeons to have an Advanced Dungeon Roulette in the future.

The difficulty of the fights is just perfect imo. Tough enough that you gotta be awake and you're probably getting slapped around for a bit, but still totally doable with randos within the time limit of the dungeon. I've only had a chance to run it a couple times so far but it's been awesome.

The rewards are completely trash

Good thing that it's so fun to play then. The enjoyment is it's own reward, everything else is extra.

I don’t think the rewards for this specific difficulty are complete trash. In fact, they seem to be the best for repeatability among the 3.

The rolling for the stacks of coins at the end is weird though… I think the vast majority would prefer if it was evenly distributed but this just adds unnecessary friction, such as having to do the left tor right rule that a lot of people in NA don’t even know how to do. Seems like it was only designed for Jp in mind where those loot rules are common.

I haven’t done it in duty finder either, where you have even less control. I would be pissed if I saw one person win every single roll.

I had fun with it. Cleared it with someone who'd done it several times and provided call outs. Of the three bosses we did, one came across as a mini-EX, nothing terrible at all, just needed to get the timing right, one I had trouble making heads or tails of but was very easy for someone to call out/dorito (I'm sure I can learn it), and the last had some nonsense that I completely understood but had some trouble solving the matter fast enough. But we got through it.

So, yeah, a gauntlet of mini-Extremes. Nice difficulty.

The regular Variant Dungeon versions are just terrible damage sponges, the Advanced versions are significantly better fights.

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Originally Posted by smitten_miquitten

Good thing that it's so fun to play then. The enjoyment is it's own reward, everything else is extra.

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Stop.. Just stop

Took a break from the game because the relic step was so godawful boring. I was going to skip this patch too but I heard you could get exquisite weapons in a fight you don't have to do homework for. And now I can get all my paste without spamming sastasha roulette or any such nonsense. The patch is a big win in my book. The fights themselves are just ok but this is much more in line with the type of activity I'd like to do for relics. Reminds me of doing delubrum.

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Originally Posted by DarkOmegaGod

Took a break from the game because the relic step was so godawful boring. I was going to skip this patch too but I heard you could get exquisite weapons in a fight you don't have to do homework for. And now I can get all my paste without spamming sastasha roulette or any such nonsense. The patch is a big win in my book. The fights themselves are just ok but this is much more in line with the type of activity I'd like to do for relics. Reminds me of doing delubrum.

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you can get paste for the relic weapon in the variant dungeon?

Having done this a lot now, I'd like to say that it's achieved the feat of being midcore content.

My first time, I did it blind. I died lots of times and got resurrected lots. Most of the bosses were 1-shots, while others were 2-shots.

Over time I've got a lot better at it and then helped carry others through it. Which is exactly how I'd expect MMO content to actually work.

Even when you know the fight you will die sometimes. Forget things. Lose concentration. Kill another player. Something there's no prospect of in a lot of content where the attack won't even kill you, nor impact anyone else. It's a lot more satisfying because of that.

If you can do normal dungeon mechanics without getting hit, you can certainly do this, even if you die a lot the first times.