If no players are new to the duty, please allow us to skip cutscenes in Praetorium

I've only been playing for about 6 weeks, but it's already getting tiresome having to sit through the same cut-scenes again and again when no players in the duty are new and have seen them before when I get Praetorium for my MSQ roulette. Surely this is a pointless exercise and we should be allow to skip them when this happens?

I understand that this could create a scenario where people will get annoyed when they get Praetorium with a new person but this could be remedied by granting extra experience points to compensate for the extra time spent in the duty or a similar extra reward.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Expedition33

I understand that this could create a scenario where people will get annoyed when they get Praetorium with a new person but this could be remedied by granting extra experience points to compensate for the extra time spent in the duty or a similar extra reward.

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That's what the roulette already does. The rewards were significantly lower when you were still able to skip all the cutscenes.

Doing this would literally cause people to immediately kick new players out just so they can get the rewards.

If you don't like it, do not run MSQ Roulette. You do not need to, and the rewards from it can be easily gotten elsewhere.

I think it should be turned into a solo duty event.

It wouldn’t be that hard coaches as it is already trust compatible. They can then remove MSQ from the roulettes and add something else.

I’ve long thought that Praetorium ought to be reworked further to relegate the speeches from Gaius and Nero to quest cutscenes, not part of the multiplayer duty. The antagonists from the ARR MSQ have long since ceased to be relevant to the current story, and we don’t need to see them over and over, let alone spend so much time on it in a dungeon run. But the devs did their one rework in Endwalker and I don’t suppose they’ll touch it again. I got so heartily sick of Prae that after I finished leveling jobs two years ago in Endwalker I vowed never to run any of the MSQ roulette duties again unless I was helping a sprout, and I have so far kept that vow.

I think the MSQ roulette duties need another rework to remove the cutscenes, and then just lump them into trials/high level dungeons. I say this as a non cutscene skipper. Unskippable cutscenes in fights should be kept to a minimum.

Best that it's a consistent experience.

If you just make it so parties with no first timers get to skip, then inevitably you'll have people kicking the first timers, which ruins the point of the roulette.

If you add more rewards to parties with first timers, then you'll have people dropping group if there aren't any.

The increased rewards from the roulette are there because it forces you to sit through cutscenes, and for no other reason. Just leave it be.

Please allow them to be skipped when you solo undersize it for WT level 50 dungeon.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Please allow them to be skipped when you solo undersize it for WT level 50 dungeon.

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That's the one time where I find it completely reasonable. You're not getting roulette rewards, you're not there for the story, you're not affecting anyone else.
Though the bigger question is why those show up in WT in the first place.

I doubt they'll ever going to touch this place again. When I started it was even worse - Gaius was basically the end boss of ARR, and after his 6 minutes of idiotic monologue "me am the bestestest of all" he dropped dead in 30 seconds. "Cut scene" seemingly was the only ability this clown had.

To make the best of it, I use 4 timers on my cell phone:

• 1:00 - Intro
• 3:00 - Colossus gets summoned
• 5:40 - Before Nero
• 6:20 - Before Gaius

That's what Prae means to me: 5 minutes of actual gameplay and 16 minutes to do something else (fetch a new bottle of water, vacuuming, loading the dishwasher, ...). That's stupid for a game, but that's the way it is.

I wholeheartedly understand where OP is coming from, and it's definitely a good reason, but as everyone as said, we can't really rule out people who would do toxic shit in game.

Even before the 'fix' people were already forcing logout by eliminating the client and logging back to force skip the cut scenes that were way longer than the current, so they could finish faster. Which then leave people who were new (aka me) locked completely in a continuous stream of long cut scenes.

Everything considered, the current format which is the trimmed version works the best, and unless SE decides to revamp it completely so everything is shown on battlefield akin to current instances, it's better to just leave it as it is.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

That's what the roulette already does. The rewards were significantly lower when you were still able to skip all the cutscenes.

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It does so very poorly, exp should be 3-4x than it's now to justify running it.

I'd like a compromise: You can at any time decide that you don't care about the roulette rewards and forfeit them by skipping the cutscenes.

Aside of that, Some new voice work for them would be much appreciated.

Me, I'll just continue running them with full cutscenes whenever I want something less hectic to wind down the day. For the WT level 50 dungeons, I'd much rather run The Wanderer's Palace unsynced anyway.

I don’t mind the cut scenes. In fact I’m happy they are there. Means I can have a small break! Sip tea, do other things etc.
I wouldn’t skip them even if there’s an option to do so.

I'd probably find the cutscenes tolerable if the rewards were higher/better to justify my time, but as they are, nah.

Wonder if there's a rework solution that doesn't have to touch the roulette rewards. My idea is that the cutscenes are removed entirely, and any voicework/dialogue is instead imported into the gameplay/battles of the duty so that we can inevitably dunk on Gaius before he finishes his monologue. New players still get the experience of the story, and veterans can simply mute the voice audio while the battles are untouched.

see it like that:

the cutscenes are a good thing, otherwise you wouldnt get the rewards you go in there for

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Please allow them to be skipped when you solo undersize it for WT level 50 dungeon.

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Just Speedrun Brayflox HM. It's super fast.

Also if someone is new, let us kick them for making it take longer.

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Originally Posted by Expedition33

I understand that this could create a scenario where people will get annoyed when they get Praetorium with a new person but this could be remedied by granting extra experience points to compensate for the extra time spent in the duty or a similar extra reward.

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This is already why you can get half a level or more from doing the MSQ roulette. You're paid for watching the cutscenes with the roulette reward. It used to give a lot less and people would speedrun the place and ruin the experience for new people who were constantly stuck in cutscenes instead of getting to fight, so they made cutscenes mandatory and massively increased the rewards to bribe us into doing it.

No cutscenes, no massive rewards. That's the tradeoff.

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Originally Posted by CosmosNovaRose

Wonder if there's a rework solution that doesn't have to touch the roulette rewards. My idea is that the cutscenes are removed entirely, and any voicework/dialogue is instead imported into the gameplay/battles of the duty so that we can inevitably dunk on Gaius before he finishes his monologue. New players still get the experience of the story, and veterans can simply mute the voice audio while the battles are untouched.

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even with the skips, people would rush through while the person would still be in the cutscene. they already butchered the speech, they took away choices you got to pick from. you know what you are signing up for when you pick MSQ. that's why you get the massive 1/2 a level for doing. before you you really didn't get that much in xp. it was piddly squat in comparison. Simply put don't do the MSQ if you can't handle doing other things during cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

I think it should be turned into a solo duty event.

It wouldn’t be that hard coaches as it is already trust compatible. They can then remove MSQ from the roulettes and add something else.

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If it were to be turned into a solo duty, knowing SE, the most likely scenario would be as you said they can then remove MSQ from the roulettes and...(fullstop), meaning everyone loses a roulette that we can choose to participate or not because some players dislike how the cutscenes cannot be skipped.

I enjoy doing housework while running Prae, some players might like to watch videos while doing so, and players whom dislike how the cutscenes cannot be skipped can go ahead and do other roulettes instead.
If you are really short on poetic, actually spam queuing ARR trials such as Ramuh and Shiva could be faster, as in fishing for first timer bonuses.