UP/DOWN targets party = good, not while casting Cure = bad

SE, Thank you for working on Patch 16a. I am very impressed that you continue to work on FFXIV during such a difficult time for Japan.

I am very glad you have added the ability to target party members using UP/DOWN on the controller. I was disappointed to find that I cannot use this targeting method while casting Cure.

As a controller user, when I press UP/DOWN I select Action Bars 1, 2 and 3. Then I select an Ability. At this time I am prompted to select a target, but UP/DOWN does nothing. UP/DOWN does not target party members while casting cure, which is when I need it most.

Please make UP/DOWN target party members while casting spells.

Thank you,
- Who

[dev1035] Improvement of Targeting Modes

Yep, needs to be adressed.

you should use the proper development tag for this, and probably post it in the in-game bugs as well

what target type ws you using? Maybe that is the issue? But if you can't target peoplwe to say cure them that that is an issue.

are you still able to use left/right to switch between party members?

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Originally Posted by GabbaGabba

are you still able to use left/right to switch between party members?

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if you read the post he is talking about up amd down keys. And being able to target ppl with the up and down keys after selecting cure.

Like if you cast cure from the spell list in ffxi.

pressing up/down changes it from party to enemy etc. etc.

for the love of god just push right or left

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Originally Posted by ARoy

pressing up/down changes it from party to enemy etc. etc.

for the love of god just push right or left

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Not on Target Mode A

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Originally Posted by ARoy

pressing up/down changes it from party to enemy etc. etc.

for the love of god just push right or left

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As Viion pointed out, the target selection has 2 modes now.

The OP is saying target mode:A , left right selects all targets up down selects PT members in order. Up/Down isn't selecting PT members when you have a cure sub-target.

So before you go on the attack, inform yourself on the changes made to the game, then read and understand what the topic is about.

I totally agree with OP. This is incredibly annoying as a mage since when you hit left or right it will target anyone, including random people running by. I have in the past cast cure on someone who was running past instead of a party member in a moment of panic because I was trying to cure a nearly dead party member and then the resulting mishap caused them to die and us to wipe.

It would be sooooo nice to be able to have the same targeting commands while sub-targeting

You don't need to add a Japanese earthquake introduction every time you post something wrong with the game.

If it's a bug, it's a bug. Hopefully it'll be addressed by the next patch. Just be sure to use the proper dev tags for it.

pressing Up and Down aren't good if you using more than 1 row action bar!!!!!!!

better change it to Left and Right

Clarification.

When using Targeting mode A, after a beneficial spell is cued, that is when UP/DOWN party member targeting is needed.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

pressing Up and Down aren't good if you using more than 1 row action bar!!!!!!!

better change it to Left and Right

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The OP is talking about after you've selected your ability and are at the target confirmation step. You need Up/Down here to make it easier to select the member you want to heal; when using left and right, it bounces back and forth depending on where they are on your screen, making it a royal pita to select the person you want quickly. With up/down, you know exactly how many key presses are needed to move the target selection to the person you need to heal, because up/down traverses up and down your party list in an exact order.

just get rid of the confirmation before casting...

Somehow this patch has made me far more frustrated with FFXIV then I have been in some time. I fear that they think this targeting is now fixed, and will not revisit it anytime soon.

I won't get any actual feedback from Devs even though I've posted in Official forums (in General and Bugs/glitches), and at the official FFXIV Support suggestions page.

I don't know why they even added UP/DOWN party targeting since it dissapears when you begin to cast a spell, forcing you to use LEFT/RIGHT, without the highlighting on the party list.

I'm in a 4 person party and I can't find the player who is being hit before they die. This is vey sad.

Another option is to add <p1> <p2> etc. text targeting commands from FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

The OP is talking about after you've selected your ability and are at the target confirmation step. You need Up/Down here to make it easier to select the member you want to heal; when using left and right, it bounces back and forth depending on where they are on your screen, making it a royal pita to select the person you want quickly. With up/down, you know exactly how many key presses are needed to move the target selection to the person you need to heal, because up/down traverses up and down your party list in an exact order.

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Yes exactly. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

just get rid of the confirmation before casting...

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Let's not. There are a variety of context specific actions you can only activate while confirming casting target like AoE on/off and how the up/down target is supposed to work. While you're in your action bar it changes through bars 1-3. While in target confirmation up and down should target through party members. The problem is that it currently isn't, which is more of a bug than an intentional design flaw I believe.

I am in favor of better targeting controls

I am strongly against controllers

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Originally Posted by ARoy

pressing up/down changes it from party to enemy etc. etc.

for the love of god just push right or left

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god forbid they actually fix any problems.
that would just ruin the game.

Don't you hate all the development they have to account for just to get this game on a console...

Ironically, most of the MMO market is on the PC while most of the FF base is on console :/

I wholly support this thread. I had been frustrated with controller targeting since the beginning. More so since the last major patch. Telling controller users to use the keyboard is not a solution.