Removing the MCH Toolbox.

With the update to glamour in 7.4 I kind of wanted to bring up an old request a good number of players myself included had.

Having an option to hide the toolbox when playing as a Machinist.

The toolbox mostly stays the same with only very small changes between some guns.
Leading to it not being very popular as it can ruin the look of some glams.

So, I don't think I'm the only one that has noticed an increase in NPC's using guns without needing a toolbox. From the Cowboys with rubber bullets, Robots that are most likely just NPCs dressed in fending gear from vanguard and can't forget Oblivion's members.

I hope we can have access to the option to hide the toolbox.

Or give Machinists really good buffs. :p

I still don't really understand why Auto Crossbow doesn't reduce the recast time for Double Check and Checkmate.

Agree. I'd also like themed boxes that match the weapon. The gun changes but the box doesn't, and it makes it especially bad on undyable weapons.

And since you mentioned Auto Crossbow, I'd also add that there's no reason for Automaton Queen to have such an absurdly long summon time. We really don't need the full animation, just let it drop in and get to work.

Agreed, I'd either like the toolbox to start matching the weapon or I'd like the option to hide only the toolbox.

I'm imagining how awesome it would be, to have a frosty toolbox to match the frosty shiva gun I have glammed on. ^_^

+1

I'll never understand why they decided to give AST slightly different card sleeve designs for every weapon but an identical tool box for MCH no matter their gun. I always assumed the reason we couldn't hide it was something to do with the lack of it being an off-hand weapon slot but now that they've implemented a similar option to hide Viera ears with certain hats, I don't see why they can't finally do this for us MCH players. Either that or they know 99% of MCHs will turn it off forever.

At least give us the option to hide it or something.

I remember when I had a crush on MCH but I eventually stopped playing it because the toolbox clipped with my arm and I couldn't stand it anymore. I'd definitely play this job more if I could hide that ugly box.
(Same goes for Astro's awkwardly long card deck or whatever you call that monstorsity).

Yes, please. This is long overdue and should be a priority, considering the job was released many years ago in Heavensward. It's likely not hard to implement as well.

As a Vanguard glam enjoyer I would also like an Emperor's New Aetherotransformer or somesuch. I know Yoshi P said our lunchboxes are packed with love, but we could also use some QoL (Quality of Love) improvements.

Wasn't there a gun in Endwalker that mistakenly didn't have the box at first and everyone was happy?

I wish we could hide it or have it match better with the weapon.

https://i.imgur.com/mWy9iyo.png

This was apparently Yoshi P's answer when asked why we can't hide them. If it was some joke because somehow it's impossible to hide it due to spaghetti code then sure. But if it was a joke said in order to be dismissive to a serious question of people wanting their glamour to look good then I would find that very annoying and hope Yoshi P stops being stubborn. He already lost against feedback regarding job restricted glamour so he might as well stop being persistent here too.

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Originally Posted by nguyentri11

https://i.imgur.com/mWy9iyo.png

This was apparently Yoshi P's answer when asked why we can't hide them. If it was some joke because somehow it's impossible to hide it due to spaghetti code then sure. But if it was a joke said in order to be dismissive to a serious question of people wanting their glamour to look good then I would find that very annoying and hope Yoshi P stops being stubborn. He already lost against feedback regarding job restricted glamour so he might as well stop being persistent here too.

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It's the latter. He was also dismissive of people who wanted time/weather controls in gpose and said they should wait (read: waste precious time) for the perfect weather and time conditions to take their photos. Then he goes on to say XIV "values people's time" with a straight face.

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Originally Posted by nguyentri11

https://i.imgur.com/mWy9iyo.png

This was apparently Yoshi P's answer when asked why we can't hide them. If it was some joke because somehow it's impossible to hide it due to spaghetti code then sure. But if it was a joke said in order to be dismissive to a serious question of people wanting their glamour to look good then I would find that very annoying and hope Yoshi P stops being stubborn. He already lost against feedback regarding job restricted glamour so he might as well stop being persistent here too.

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I do remember the old lunch boxes of love joke. It's why I pointed to the NPCs in dawntrail. Clearly, they found a way to hide the boxes for NPCs so I'm hoping we can be given the option to hide it ourselves at some point.

As for me personally I'm just not a fan of the big bulky thing being on my character's hip. If it was on her lower back just above where a tail would be to avoid clipping into one. I'd still want to hide it, but it would bother me less.

Nope, sorry, we need to justify where you're getting your ammo and tools.

Please ignore the invisible backpack full of another thirty full sets of clothing, armor, weapons, accessories, food, random tokens, and that one old moogle tomestone you never spent but keep forgetting to toss.

I wouldn't mind it at all if it had variants that matched the actual guns design, but that ship has sailed. I've mostly just used guns that look alright with it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Nope, sorry, we need to justify where you're getting your ammo and tools.

Please ignore the invisible backpack full of another thirty full sets of clothing, armor, weapons, accessories, food, random tokens, and that one old moogle tomestone you never spent but keep forgetting to toss.

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I sure wish they would have used that reasoning to justify an off-hand tackle box I been begging for since ARR for my fisher to keep baits and lures and whatnot in. :sobs:

A toggle like we have for visors would be welcome if that's possible.

Ah, I do remember another reason why I avoid mch nowadays

I liked the ‘lunchbox’ lmao but that’s just me.

Having a /visor like function to hide it wouldn’t hurt anything except maybe their oh so limited funding.

it's probably some spaghetti code where the lunchbox isn't a separate object, but part of each weapon's file or something stupid.

I'm sure this will be on the growing list of things they're suddenly doing to try to get the game to stop bleeding players.

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Originally Posted by Destati

I'm sure this will be on the growing list of things they're suddenly doing to try to get the game to stop bleeding players.

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Which is why we're bringing stuff like this up now. They actually unlocked glam. That took a DECADE.

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Originally Posted by nguyentri11

https://i.imgur.com/mWy9iyo.png

This was apparently Yoshi P's answer when asked why we can't hide them. If it was some joke because somehow it's impossible to hide it due to spaghetti code then sure. But if it was a joke said in order to be dismissive to a serious question of people wanting their glamour to look good then I would find that very annoying and hope Yoshi P stops being stubborn. He already lost against feedback regarding job restricted glamour so he might as well stop being persistent here too.

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Nah, u can hide it…not with game’s tool tho.
It behaves just like an offhand slot

i agree, if they won't give us different aetherotransformers for guns then we should be able to toggle it off. it clashes with almost every outfit i make and looks silly.

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Originally Posted by nguyentri11

https://i.imgur.com/mWy9iyo.png

This was apparently Yoshi P's answer when asked why we can't hide them. If it was some joke because somehow it's impossible to hide it due to spaghetti code then sure. But if it was a joke said in order to be dismissive to a serious question of people wanting their glamour to look good then I would find that very annoying and hope Yoshi P stops being stubborn. He already lost against feedback regarding job restricted glamour so he might as well stop being persistent here too.

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Funny how they always answer with these comments or "spaghetti" code excuse, but then modders did this a long time ago and proved it can be done lmao.

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Originally Posted by RedLolly

Which is why we're bringing stuff like this up now. They actually unlocked glam. That took a DECADE.

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Probably because they saw the big need for new / returning players. So they had to keep something "big" for 7.4 patch, otherwise it would be again: "nothing to do" for them. It's just some last resort thing coming.

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Originally Posted by MayuAmakura

Funny how they always answer with these comments or "spaghetti" code excuse, but then modders did this a long time ago and proved it can be done lmao.

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And funny they always come with the "The modders did manage to this already" argument when they just pull a single thing from the whole game and tinker on it -without the need for getting the change approved, commence extensive testing, submitting and having it process through QA- and jab it right back in and it's all good.

It's not. It's only a client-side change at best.
SE needs to look at this on the big picture - And hope the change on a single sprinkle of their cake of the game doesn't make it deflate, blow up or just break.

And one thing that is more annoying that SE not making their stuff work properly is people being insufferable regarding it, even when it's a minor hiccup.

Recent interview claimed the developers would be more responsive to glamour demands so please allow an option to hide the MCH toolbox.