Please Cancel Beastmaster

In fact cancel the whole "limilted Job" its a waste of resources...

MAKE BEASTMASTER A REAL PET CLASS THAT CAN SO ALL CONTENT WITH THE REST OF THE CLASSES

I am looking forward to Beastmaster, myself, having an alternative to BLU to do fuckery with will be fun, as someone who hates casting.

The only reason I bought Dawntrail expansion was for Beastmaster.

it will be a nice, fun minigame

I'm all up for it

Do you have no ways to feel happiness other than to create troll threads?

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Originally Posted by Shialan

Do you have no ways to feel happiness other than to create troll threads?

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I mean, i don't think its a troll thread
i wish beast master was a real class too, pet classes are the most fun in mmo's and ff14 has done all it can to kill them.
Limited jobs can't even get to current max level so they're not even worth using to solo old content because a current level tank will do that job 50x better.

Troll or not, I feel this in my soul.

Limited jobs are just...bad. They feel like side ventures that will always be left behind as content goes forward.

Putting in another one is going to just invite more disappointment as it doesn't get the treatment people desire.

It might be a troll thread but he has a point.

They need to design an entirely new job with it's own unique mechanics, but that job is also not allowed to play with the others and sits at a lower level cap as well.

And because it's not allowed to play with the big boy jobs or do any of the normal expansion content it relies heavily on the devs to create content for it, which eats up more resources solely for this one job.
Or they don't make any new content for the limited job and it collects dust.

Beastmaster is about collecting beasts and fight with them, there is no way they could squeeze that concept into a regular job unless they make a physical version of actual SMN, which no one want.
It has to be a limited job. Just let's see what this is about before saying it's useless garbage.

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Originally Posted by OdrN

Beastmaster is about collecting beasts and fight with them, there is no way they could squeeze that concept into a regular job unless they make a physical version of actual SMN, which no one want.
It has to be a limited job. Just let's see what this is about before saying it's useless garbage.

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Well since people are so absolutely dead set that SMN has to make WHM look like it requires 6 brains why not just make “physical SMN” as a pet job and call it a real job

As far as I understood all the modern SMN mains didn’t want a pet job anyway since apparently the only SMN design allowed is a one to one copy of Rydia sent through a woodchipper

limited jobs are a poor idea atm yeah, you should be able to do all content with it up to max level
curious how it will play otherwise can we clear ultimates and get ultimate bosses to show off? would be nice

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Originally Posted by Kahnha

limited jobs are a poor idea atm yeah, you should be able to do all content with it up to max level
curious how it will play otherwise can we clear ultimates and get ultimate bosses to show off? would be nice

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Based on the only other limited job after almost 7 years, don't get your hopes up.

I think Beastmaster can be fun as a limited job. Tho it does not really fit the fantasy of an online mmorpg. Better to make fun jobs that are more uniqe that can do all content. Fix the normal jobs before adding side content. ^^

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Originally Posted by Eesh

Troll or not, I feel this in my soul.

Limited jobs are just...bad. They feel like side ventures that will always be left behind as content goes forward.

Putting in another one is going to just invite more disappointment as it doesn't get the treatment people desire.

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Like Island Sanctuary but it was never good to begin with. x)

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Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC

In fact cancel the whole "limilted Job" its a waste of resources...

MAKE BEASTMASTER A REAL PET CLASS THAT CAN SO ALL CONTENT WITH THE REST OF THE CLASSES

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Please cancel the official forums, its a waste of resources.

Normal Job design isn't going to see any meaningful change, regardless. Why pretend discontinuating Limited Job is going to make any difference?

And if they go and make them regular jobs? You'll get a job with similar beats to the rest, grow bored and leave it gathering dust anyways, at the expense of the few who actually enjoy the content. No one wins.

And the reason SE did away with pets is because they know well they're incapable to make pets actually work as intended instead of carrying dreadful AIs, ghosting commands and getting stuck in places.

As a BLU enjoyer, I'm also excited for Beastmaster.

My main issue with Beastmaster is the fact that we're 1 year into the expansion and we still have no idea what Beastmaster gameplay will even be like, besides conceptually (which we already had from old FF games) :mad:
They could atleast give us a screenshot of the gear for BST or something... Waiting till next summer for it will be hell.

Can we wait until it's out and then complain?

other jobs have like 30 jobquests you have to do to get certaib skills... why cant there be a job that needs to catch 30 monsters to get its regular rotation?

and also: they could still add additional monsters but instead of making the job limited they could just limit the strongest skills to certain content.

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Originally Posted by XtremePrime

As a BLU enjoyer, I'm also excited for Beastmaster.

My main issue with Beastmaster is the fact that we're 1 year into the expansion and we still have no idea what Beastmaster gameplay will even be like, besides conceptually (which we already had from old FF games) :mad:
They could atleast give us a screenshot of the gear for BST or something... Waiting till next summer for it will be hell.

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The wait really killed the hype, honestly... Before DT, all we could talk about in my friend group was Beastmaster (one friend grinded out the crocodile mount and put together a "Florida Man" glamour to match it in preparation for the job lmao) and not a single peep about it since DT dropped. When is it even coming, 7.55 at this pace...?

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Originally Posted by Asari5

other jobs have like 30 jobquests you have to do to get certaib skills... why cant there be a job that needs to catch 30 monsters to get its regular rotation?

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I'll be so real with you. The best thing that happened to job quests is that they don't give skills anymore.
The job quests can be the most interesting thing ever, but the moment you force me to sit through them to be able to get an AoE I'm out of it. Let's not go there again...

BLU is fairly good about job quests. They give you the gear and unlock relevant content (Carnival) but you can get any skills at your own pace. I personally prefer it that way.

Oh, it’s Miguel. Pay him no mind. He complains on Facebook why FFXIV needs to be more like WoW.

On topic, I love Beastmaster. It’s very fun to play as in FFXI. It’s the ultimate survival job. Though I wonder if there will be a monster hierarchy with what is stronger against what.

Limited classes are the best thing they've done in this game and there needs to be more.

Honestly why not both. Why not make a limited version of the job and then a unlimited(normal) version of the job

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Originally Posted by OdrN

Beastmaster is about collecting beasts and fight with them, there is no way they could squeeze that concept into a regular job unless they make a physical version of actual SMN, which no one want.

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If creatively bankrupt, you're right, there's not.

Otherwise, though? It might take shaking up regular jobs a bit --just as would a good Summoner or a Monk whose stances weren't negligible tack-ons, a Dragoon with a specialized Bane/Flight or even just a combo system that isn't 90% button-bloat, etc.-- but it'd be doable.

And honestly, it deserved all the more to have been attempted instead of this limited job nonsense for that reason.

Just waiting to get this class released is already boring. You're gonna have to wait for a looooong period..

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Originally Posted by LegendWait

Please cancel the official forums, its a waste of resources.

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Agreed. There is no real discussions here, only venting in the most unhinged ways.

How about they 'cancel' the DDoS attacks that are currently going on, i think thats more important.

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Originally Posted by Eesh

Troll or not, I feel this in my soul.

Limited jobs are just...bad. They feel like side ventures that will always be left behind as content goes forward.

Putting in another one is going to just invite more disappointment as it doesn't get the treatment people desire.

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As far as I'm aware, we have the Limited jobs like Blu because of how OP it can get while retaining to the core class concept of what made blu Mage a Blu mage. And it's also limited because it doesn't stand with the 2 minute meta as far as I'm aware.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

On topic, I love Beastmaster. It’s very fun to play as in FFXI. It’s the ultimate survival job. Though I wonder if there will be a monster hierarchy with what is stronger against what.

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I hope that Beastmaster will primarily ACTUALLY be a pet job with synergy instead of something stupid or them trying to be "original". They tore out the pet functionality from SMN so the least they could do is just stick it on BeastMaster and let those that want a pet job be able to enjoy having a pet job.

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Originally Posted by Manamaru

And it's also limited because it doesn't stand with the 2 minute meta as far as I'm aware.

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Well, yes, but actually no.

BLU DPS relies pretty heavily on the combo colloquially referred to as the Moon Flute Combo, and due to some spells in that combo(Nightbloom, Matra Magic, Phantom Flurry) having two minute CDs, it is functionally a 2 minute meta, however, since BLU doesn't really buff each other, drifting your Moon Flute is absolutely not a big deal, so waiting until it's safe to do so is much more viable and you aren't punished if someone decided to be daring and did their combo sooner than you, meaning going off sync with the party doesn't exist as an issue, plus should the boss be near death, you can elect to Moon Flute sooner than you would would otherwise with fewer spells ready to push for for that last bit of damage, so it leads to BLU having an extremely versatile burst, with its main buff spells having no cooldowns, and simply having other costs associated with it.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

Oh, it’s Miguel. Pay him no mind. He complains on Facebook why FFXIV needs to be more like WoW.

On topic, I love Beastmaster. It’s very fun to play as in FFXI. It’s the ultimate survival job. Though I wonder if there will be a monster hierarchy with what is stronger against what.

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Go away troll

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Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC

Go away troll

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At least tell us why you want BST cancelled, Motivatedbrocolli.

The Limited Job system is a failure of the game developer

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Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC

Go away troll

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You're really in no position to be saying that when your post history is nothing but you trolling or complaining about every little thing.

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Originally Posted by Grimforth

You're really in no position to be saying that when your post history is nothing but you trolling or complaining about every little thing.

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He does this a lot in Facebook by complaining on the FFXIV groups why FFXIV can’t be more like WoW. He will post photos of the goofy WoW armor asking when we could get similar things.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

At least tell us why you want BST cancelled, Motivatedbrocolli.

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Read the post lol

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Originally Posted by Shistar

The wait really killed the hype, honestly... Before DT, all we could talk about in my friend group was Beastmaster (one friend grinded out the crocodile mount and put together a "Florida Man" glamour to match it in preparation for the job lmao) and not a single peep about it since DT dropped. When is it even coming, 7.55 at this pace...?

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Given the JP fanfest isn't until Halloween of next year, I think 6.55 will probably be an entire year unto itself before the next expansion. So... at least there's that?

Too late they are not cancelling it

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Originally Posted by BokoToloko

Normal Job design isn't going to see any meaningful change, regardless. Why pretend discontinuating Limited Job is going to make any difference?

And if they go and make them regular jobs? You'll get a job with similar beats to the rest, grow bored and leave it gathering dust anyways, at the expense of the few who actually enjoy the content. No one wins.

And the reason SE did away with pets is because they know well they're incapable to make pets actually work as intended instead of carrying dreadful AIs, ghosting commands and getting stuck in places.

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The real reason because people did not want to control them

Us hoping we can battle monsters like pokemon, when reality it will be nothing like that at all and possibly people will be disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC

Read the post lol

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It’s not a good argument because you clearly don’t know anything about how BST worked in FFXI. It won’t be the same in XIV but it will be a whole new thing. I don’t see WoW allowing you to grow your pets and having them evolve.