Occult Crescent Final thoughts

I had a fun time farming the stones for the relic but after getting your first relic there was no need to do back to OC. I find it weird that the 2nd step doesnt have anything to do with OC... just a Que fest...

Phat Jobs, I dont care for them. I think their are lame.. They should've gave Phat jobs to our chocobos so we could use them in OC. Make our chocobos useful again.

OC needed dailies, maybe weekly dailies..

I have a feeling the new section their going to add is going to be the same thing..

This team has no idea what their doing..


Final score 4/10

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Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC

Phat Jobs, I dont care for them. I think their are lame.. They should've gave Phat jobs to our chocobos so we could use them in OC. Make our chocobos useful again.


Final score 4/10

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That'd be really funny in some cases. I mean, imagine this:
https://i.imgur.com/lNH9RvX.png
But it's your Chocco being carried!

It really all boils down to everything in OC is built around forked

If you don’t do forked then OC goes nowhere, if you do do forked then it’s still too much effort to do it a proportional amount of times to the amount of times the game seems to want you to do it to balance out OC

So it either doesn’t work or only half works but still leaves you unsatisfied depending on the situation

I think they were hoping the inflated coin costs for glamour, mounts, and other items in OC would make up the difference when people were done with the first step. Unfortunately either people got them all while doing that hell grind for Demiatma because their RNG laughed at them. Or, like me, they got a few things while doing it and just said no to the rest because the costs were super inflated.

The entry requirements and savage difficulty killed any hope of me doing forked. As its level synced, I can’t rely on better levels to overcome its difficulty.

I’m glad Yoshi explained their development process on raids though, it explains why everything is savage as they develop that first and then try to tune it down to normal. Hopefully the Quantum system will fix all of this.

I also hope that they can really figure out dynamic scaling so that the entire zone can go in as long as a minimum amount of players is met.

Phantom job actions are pretty sick if you actually slot them on your hot/cross bar. I had multiple thief actions slotted on viper and it was pretty fun debuffing with pilfer and using occult sprint at various times. I don't think you interacted enough.

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Originally Posted by Exinias

Phantom job actions are pretty sick if you actually slot them on your hot/cross bar. I had multiple thief actions slotted on viper and it was pretty fun debuffing with pilfer and using occult sprint at various times. I don't think you interacted enough.

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Yeah, phantom job actions are nice once you have the time to play with them, changing them depending of the fight, etc. But by the time you get there, you spent so much time there lvling phantom jobs you kinda don't want to play OC anymore. As much as I want longer farm, I kinda feel the job lvling should be faster, so you have time to play with phantom jobs while you farm for other things you need to farm for.

I mean OC still not done though, supposedly getting more phantom jobs 7.4, and then another zone in 7.5 with more jobs. Assuming were getting additional levels with the new zone guess they could just allow higher levels to run Forked to naturally ease the difficulty.

There's not really much to it if you don't do Forked unlike with Bozja where you either would do CLL when it popped up or Dal when it popped up while doing things like collecting the honors post-story.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

That'd be really funny in some cases. I mean, imagine this:
https://i.imgur.com/lNH9RvX.png
But it's your Chocco being carried!

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To be fair, that be just like a human player riding one of those monkey mounts or a hrothgar/miqote riding any cat mount or an aura riding a dragon mount.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

That'd be really funny in some cases. I mean, imagine this:
https://i.imgur.com/lNH9RvX.png
But it's your Chocco being carried!

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https://i.imgur.com/sN5kd3l.png

The most anti-social content in the game.
I felt like the game was against me with the drop rates and the speed of another fate spawns.
Map was .. ugly and boring nothing to discover or feel excited about - heavy duty grind what felt as the game was supposed to be mine 9-5 daily job.

I log-in to actually have fun and feel satisfaction of achieving things but this... was quite opposite
Also the OC didn't let me level up any other classes or gain benefits for mine normal gameplay.

The biggest issue with OC revolves around your will to do Forked Tower or not, otherwise there's no point to anything else unless you're interested in getting armors for glam and collecting some minions/mounts through treasures. At the end of the day, phantom jobs are tools used to help with Forked Tower, and just grinding them out for the sake of number go up is not very enticing if you don't get to actually put them to good use.

Forked Tower was the end goal, but with the fumble on difficulty, it's akin to watching a TV show but you're not allowed to watch the final episode, so it left most people with a dissatisfied lack of closure for the whole South Horn.

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Originally Posted by Exinias

Phantom job actions are pretty sick if you actually slot them on your hot/cross bar. I had multiple thief actions slotted on viper and it was pretty fun debuffing with pilfer and using occult sprint at various times. I don't think you interacted enough.

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Pilfer doesn’t even do anything for 99% of things you’ll do in OC

So you are praising the ability to apply a useless debuff then run around fast which is just ripped from impetus anyway?

Noone will ever convince me that phantom jobs are an upgrade over lost actions or logograms. I still haven't gone back into OC and, if North Horn is more of the same, I'll probably skip unless forced to interact due to future relic steps.

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Originally Posted by Myotis

The most anti-social content in the game.
I felt like the game was against me with the drop rates and the speed of another fate spawns.
Map was .. ugly and boring nothing to discover or feel excited about - heavy duty grind what felt as the game was supposed to be mine 9-5 daily job.

I log-in to actually have fun and feel satisfaction of achieving things but this... was quite opposite
Also the OC didn't let me level up any other classes or gain benefits for mine normal gameplay.

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Sucks for you. It's the most social content i've played in-game since Endwalker released.

Bozja was damn near perfect.

Large scale dungeon content with normal mode and savage.
Lost action system was more robust.
Duel system.
Queue system for fates.
Could level other jobs while in zone.
Could progress all stages of the relic while in the zone.

Occult Crescent.
No queue system for fates.
No duel system
Phantom jobs seem too limited and safe compared to lost actions.
Cannot level other jobs while in zone.
Cannot complete all relic steps while in the zone.
No normal mode for large scale dungeon content

With this current relic step, Occult Crescent wont have any value for 6+ months. That is crazy

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Originally Posted by Derio

Bozja was damn near perfect.

Large scale dungeon content with normal mode and savage.
Lost action system was more robust.
Duel system.
Queue system for fates.
Could level other jobs while in zone.
Could progress all stages of the relic while in the zone.

Occult Crescent.
No queue system for fates.
No duel system
Phantom jobs seem too limited and safe compared to lost actions.
Cannot level other jobs while in zone.
Cannot complete all relic steps while in the zone.
No normal mode for large scale dungeon content

With this current relic step, Occult Crescent wont have any value for 6+ months. That is crazy

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Personally dont want relic to be attached to anything specific but rather have various "options" instead to complete steps. Bozjan relic almost had it that way but then ruined it with the required the Bozja dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Hanayumi

I mean OC still not done though, supposedly getting more phantom jobs 7.4, and then another zone in 7.5 with more jobs. Assuming were getting additional levels with the new zone guess they could just allow higher levels to run Forked to naturally ease the difficulty.

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Unless the new mastery stacks and job abilities increase the group's damage to the point that the boss is dead almost instantly, there are too many binary pass/wipe mechanics for power creep to "solve" it.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

It really all boils down to everything in OC is built around forked

If you don’t do forked then OC goes nowhere, if you do do forked then it’s still too much effort to do it a proportional amount of times to the amount of times the game seems to want you to do it to balance out OC

So it either doesn’t work or only half works but still leaves you unsatisfied depending on the situation

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I don't think this is true. I've been doing fine without touching forked tower. I have like over 100 hours in OC by now, and there's plenty of people who are just hanging out in there just to do it. To me this is like saying there's no point to the rest of the game unless you plan on raiding. Would it be nice if there was another tier of forked tower that was more pickup friendly? Of course. But really, it's one dungeon. People skip optional dungeons all the time and nobody really makes a big deal of it.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

I don't think this is true. I've been doing fine without touching forked tower. I have like over 100 hours in OC by now, and there's plenty of people who are just hanging out in there just to do it. To me this is like saying there's no point to the rest of the game unless you plan on raiding. Would it be nice if there was another tier of forked tower that was more pickup friendly? Of course. But really, it's one dungeon. People skip optional dungeons all the time and nobody really makes a big deal of it.

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The problem is nothing goes anywhere without forked because everything is basically a dead end without it leading to an endless treadmill that goes nowhere

Levelling phantom jobs? - so you can get mastery stacks to do the same fates but do a little more damage
Going for arcanauts gear? - +2 is locked behind forked anyway so you are kinda stuck halfway
Something to break the endless fate chain? - you guessed it…..forked

What goal are you are going for without forked, where does OC go? Everything just feels pointlessly futile without that piece to cycle the content. The game had a defined endgame without raiding, OC has no goal without forked or a CLL equivalent, it just sorta exists