where can i find an FC that is completly following the terms of services of the game.

please, i am actually on cuchulainn and id be ready to move server and data center, even create a new character to join an fc that would respect the terms of services of the game and free of people using things, i am tired of getting into FCs and learning eveeryone is using things to accomodate the gameplay or upgrade the visual, but me. id like to play the game ahs intended with people that are likewise, that enjoy the product Yoshi P created with his team. i love ff14 has it is and seeing things when i join an fc discord or reading things about how people wouldnt play without, those "quality of life" they often call it. its cheating and i dislike cheaters.

point me one FC that doesnt uses anything not ff14 related so i can play with people like me please

I think you should rather stop caring so much about what other people do, especially when it doesn't affect you

well, i care about it, no matter what you say, those things are against the rules. i respect the rules, id like to play with people that does is all, isnt it the goal tp find people that think likewise to play with them?

it does affect me, how can i compete with someone autocrafting with rotation day and night, how can be efficient selling if the others can easily spawn thousands of item while sleeping and when dps meter is checked to blast at people there lack of skills or when i see unadequate pictures in an FC that is supposed to be for general public, especially i have children i kindergarden

I don't think you should spend your time comparing yourself to others and how fast they're doing things, to be honest. Play the game at your own pace and find joy in knowing that everything you did - you did on your own.

However, if you're 100% dead set on finding a guild where the chance of encountering 3rd party tools usage is next to zero or, at least, isn't openly talked about (so you won't know it happens) - your best bet is probably Japanese guilds (and even there people often use ACT, aka DPS meter). That's not to say that everyone on NA and EU is using stuff, but it's common enough that you'll likely come across at least one person who does in any somewhat big and active guild.

I didnt know FCs were a competition about who can craft the most.

thats true, and why my opinion is that ff14 should have a login anti-cheat system, but its not the point. i just wanna find people who will like to grind for glams like me and gather normally, craft without automation, if its impossible to do find, no wonder Yoshi P doesnt want to give more content to the community, when he fairly knows most of them dont care for the devs work.
if its true, i think squeenix failed in protecting there own terms and should just close the whole data centers

but thats just an opinion

You could always make your own FC to find and draw in the players you want to play with.

and tell me who would join that fc that wanna make the rules respected?

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and tell me who would join that fc that wanna make the rules respected?

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Well, you're about to find out as you gather them together?

i know my strenght and i aint a leader, i couldnt leade more then myself, and why i seek for an fc like that

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well, i care about it, no matter what you say, those things are against the rules. i respect the rules, id like to play with people that does is all, isnt it the goal tp find people that think likewise to play with them?

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Here's the issue: while I think plenty of people can respect someone wanting to play the game Vanilla (not ENOUGH people, from what I've seen of Vanilla and console players being ostracized in RP), and agree people should respect that decision, imposing your values and expecting them to be followed to order to associate them--that kind of high maintenance "policing others" behavior, is not going to attract you to any community that you would want to be in.

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i know my strenght and i aint a leader, i couldnt leade more then myself, and why i seek for an fc like that

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Good thing to recognize, but what you wish to impose on an FC is ultimately the authority required of a leader. Think of it this way; every person that joins the FC by your definition would need to not use third party apps, and you would need to be satisfied that they don't use said apps.

In other words, you would basically--whether you know it or not--expect the GM to have your approval with every person they recruit. That is insane.

what other people do for fun. is non of your damn business. like its non of mine what you do for fun

this is pointless post

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please, i am actually on cuchulainn and id be ready to move server and data center, even create a new character to join an fc that would respect the terms of services of the game and free of people using things, i am tired of getting into FCs and learning eveeryone is using things to accomodate the gameplay or upgrade the visual, but me. id like to play the game ahs intended with people that are likewise, that enjoy the product Yoshi P created with his team. i love ff14 has it is and seeing things when i join an fc discord or reading things about how people wouldnt play without, those "quality of life" they often call it. its cheating and i dislike cheaters.

point me one FC that doesnt uses anything not ff14 related so i can play with people like me please

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It is easy. You create a FC and you invite some people. Then you read the minds of other members of the FC. And if someone thinks about it to break the TOS, you kick him.



Cheers

You really wanna know how?

Stop looking for these FCs just to get your rage meter filled.

You might be able to find FCs on Community Finder for console players that are parent friendly.

exmo, best comment, thanks

Which server is the most Safe for Work friendly and christian?

Typing /shutdown is how you deal with the current situation. You just type that into chat and it'll solve your problem for you in 20 seconds tops

amazing bait, i love these forums

10/10 bait. Real answer, find a fully console peasant fc

It's very easy to be in an FC and not engage with the FC much and just play your own way. This is what I have always done in an FC. I chat with them occasionally, but otherwise, I ignore that I'm in an FC and just queue for things and play my own way. They never have a problem with this, whatever their own playstyle happens to be.

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it does affect me, how can i compete with someone autocrafting with rotation day and night

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Macros are a feature in the game and the norm for crafting. You don't need to out-compete them, either. You just need to satisfy your own personal goals and that's it. Never understand this pointless need to compete with others.

Same for battles. You only need to feel satisfied with how you are personally pressing buttons. You don't particularly need to satisfy anyone else if you don't want to. If they don't like that, you can simply avoid playing with that person.

OP, I feel you. I used to run a community that gently encouraged this. Unfortunately they all vanished from online with DT, and I didn't have the time to keep it recruiting at the 64 cwls limit.
You also won't find it with any community featuring high end. It will be logs logs logs.
Id love to say start your own community, but recruiting is full time as people stop logging on, and its harder to rely get to know people.
This game 'has' just changed so much in four years.

I dont run any mods - never have. Its half that i dont see the point, half that i dont trust the people who develop them. With that established, i wouldnt join an FC who were that militant about it and if i were running an FC i would kick anyone like OP. Caring that much about how someone else plays the game is a HUGE red flag. Its not good for your mental health, its not good for the health of the game, and its inevitably going to cause some amount of drama. Im an adult. I dont need or want more drama.

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that i dont trust the people who develop them

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Same, and as it turned out some years ago - wasn't such a bad decision. Things that run locally without needing internet would be more acceptable I guess for gaming at least...

OP needs to find console friends, they exist. Or stick to trusts and npc squadron.

I don't know if anyone offer this, but find an FC that is full of console players may be your best bet.

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I dont run any mods - never have. Its half that i dont see the point, half that i dont trust the people who develop them. With that established, i wouldnt join an FC who were that militant about it and if i were running an FC i would kick anyone like OP. Caring that much about how someone else plays the game is a HUGE red flag. Its not good for your mental health, its not good for the health of the game, and its inevitably going to cause some amount of drama. Im an adult. I dont need or want more drama.

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There is a big point in usage of mods, like a lot and first one that comes to my mind is botting. Mentors will never leave them because of this option.

Also this seems like another bait post or OP is a person that loves to find drama whenever possible.

- "I want people to respect rules" -> starts a drama about everything

Nobody cares what people are doing, play game your way. Just because some people are having fun doesn't mean that you should shut them down. "If I can't have fun then nobody can!".

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There is a big point in usage of mods, like a lot and first one that comes to my mind is botting. Mentors will never leave them because of this option.

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I said that I dont see the point. Why would i want to set up a bot? I play the game to play the game. I dont want to automate a bunch of stuff and go afk. That isnt playing. I dont even macro craft. If my mind and skills arent up to the task, i need to get better. The people who are still crying over the loss of Mare im sure saw a point in their graphical changes. I do not want to change my character in ways the engine doesnt support, nor am i interested in seeing the "fruits" of other peoples efforts on that front. So i dont. But my disinterest doesnt rise to the level of caring what other people do. And dont downplay the not trusting bot developers aspect. That alone is reason enough not to install stuff on my PC.

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thats true, and why my opinion is that ff14 should have a login anti-cheat system, but its not the point. i just wanna find people who will like to grind for glams like me and gather normally, craft without automation, if its impossible to do find, no wonder Yoshi P doesnt want to give more content to the community, when he fairly knows most of them dont care for the devs work.
if its true, i think squeenix failed in protecting there own terms and should just close the whole data centers

but thats just an opinion

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Hard pass. No company should be allowed to insert an app that can access the ROOT of your PC.

How about you create a company with the rules that you want? You have complete control over it.

thank you all that gave adequate and positive comments, i finally found something that are to my expectation.

Try the Community Finder
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...munity_finder/

If you are so bothered by what others do to their game that it affects you personally, then why not start your own FC and enforce your strict rules. No one's stopping you. Let the applications flow.

FCs are completely social content, there's literally no benefit from joining one unless you have access to the FC workshop. So just start your own social group. It's better than forcing yourself with others that you don't share the same beliefs with.