For those complaining about the "modern glams" in Dawntrail

Remember that more than half of the expansion's premise is about Alexandria and Solution 9... So having stuff that's cohese with that setting is appropriate to say the least. Imagine being on Stormblood and tired of eastern-themed sets...

Plus, looking at the bigger picture, the "high fantasy" versus "modern" stuff released in Dawntrail, it seems quite balanced out.

My only complaint about them is that the majority of these outfits are tied to PVP, honestly. We're now at, what, 7 sets of 'modern casual'/'techwear' from PVP? If they were tied to maps like the Neon street set, or dungeons like the vanguard sets, I wouldn't really have any issue with them, besides the fact I vastly prefer the high fantasy style stuff. (Which I also think has been pretty bad so far, at least in my opinion.)

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Originally Posted by Seraph_Variel

My only complaint about them is that the majority of these outfits are tied to PVP, honestly. We're now at, what, 7 sets of 'modern casual'/'techwear' from PVP? If they were tied to maps like the Neon street set, or dungeons like the vanguard sets, I wouldn't really have any issue with them, besides the fact I vastly prefer the high fantasy style stuff. (Which I also think has been pretty bad so far, at least in my opinion.)

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This will be most likely trophy crystal rewards again, so you can cap now and buy immediately after the patch releases.

As for the style, I really like it. There are many pieces I can use to make my character look like someone like Tifa, Rikku or Yuna.

Just by time investment though, they’re a lot easier to get from pvp than if they were made with rare drops from treasure maps, so I’m ok with that. They’re also all classes gear, which they wouldn’t be if they came from a dungeon.

But I’m with you on wanting more of a fantasy look.

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Originally Posted by Seraph_Variel

My only complaint about them is that the majority of these outfits are tied to PVP, honestly. We're now at, what, 7 sets of 'modern casual'/'techwear' from PVP? If they were tied to maps like the Neon street set, or dungeons like the vanguard sets, I wouldn't really have any issue with them, besides the fact I vastly prefer the high fantasy style stuff. (Which I also think has been pretty bad so far, at least in my opinion.)

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I have to agree with you that most of the modern sets we have aren't really my thing lol.

Actually my favorites are usually when it goes somewhere steampunk rather than cyberpunk, but given the current situation, understandable that we get many of the latter.

Of course, but i find S9 by itself to be really out of place in XIV

Just like any other kinds of glams people don't like... don't like it, don't wear it.

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Originally Posted by Seraph_Variel

My only complaint about them is that the majority of these outfits are tied to PVP, honestly. We're now at, what, 7 sets of 'modern casual'/'techwear' from PVP?

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Agreed.

The only valid complaint on 'modern' glams, tbh.

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Originally Posted by Mecia

Of course, but i find S9 by itself to be really out of place in XIV

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I think that is the point, with Alexandria being from another world, way more advanced. I hope we do see the contrast explored in the future with Alexandrians actually venturing in Etheirys.

Final Fantasy as a whole (franchise) rarely has a title without a component, usually late game, being in an advanced setting.

I think my only issue with the modern glams is that they are not as bold as they could be? In my opinion, their take on modern glams are quite boring and safe. B-boy baggy pants and a fitted crop top. Groundbreaking. What about more rips and tears?? Dangling chains, spiked accessories, complicated deco'd nails, sleek high heels, big edgy earrings, patterned wrist warmers, arm bangles-idk idk. Kinda feel like it's a problem that's existed across all themed attires though, in XIV. They tend to get one idea for a look, and then do that exact same look 10 different times.

I think modern and fantasy can come together and look really really cool, but xiv so far isnt the best at translating that. Feel like they need a more creative team of minds behind their glam releases. The release of modern glams in this expansion though, is completely fair.

I don't hate modern glams in general, but I do think the hoodie-with-shorts they showed is pretty darn ugly. I know that's just my opinion. But I also rarely wear an entire glam, so look at them in terms of which pieces I might find a use for.

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Originally Posted by Batbrat

They tend to get one idea for a look, and then do that exact same look 10 different times.

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That's a general dev mindset for other aspects of the game too. Adhere to a formula and barely stray from it.

Look at the hairstyle contest winners... How many of those entries are styles very similar to what we have already, or even similar between them (e.g. the k-pop band leader hairstyle).

I find whatever they've been doing with the "high Fantasy" glam to be super boring and stale so I tend to prefer the modern glam but even then not all of them have been bangers.

It's not the modernity that's objectionable to me, it just all looks so high-schoolers at Glendale Galleria.

Out of place for most of the game, way too much of it. Because they want japanese fashion inserted in, instead of theme-fitting wear. Simple as

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

Out of place for most of the game, way too much of it. Because they want japanese fashion inserted in, instead of theme-fitting wear. Simple as

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This.
Besides the fact that I think Solution 9 shouldn't even exist in the first place, so it technically fitting that style is irrelevant to me.

The modern glamours often still just don't. They look like stuff you can find in an irl store right now, not like they were designed by the Alexandrians (even though they are generally more generic), the Garleans or the Allagans.

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Originally Posted by Batbrat

I think my only issue with the modern glams is that they are not as bold as they could be? In my opinion, their take on modern glams are quite boring and safe. B-boy baggy pants and a fitted crop top. Groundbreaking. What about more rips and tears?? Dangling chains, spiked accessories, complicated deco'd nails, sleek high heels, big edgy earrings, patterned wrist warmers, arm bangles-idk idk. Kinda feel like it's a problem that's existed across all themed attires though, in XIV. They tend to get one idea for a look, and then do that exact same look 10 different times.

I think modern and fantasy can come together and look really really cool, but xiv so far isnt the best at translating that. Feel like they need a more creative team of minds behind their glam releases. The release of modern glams in this expansion though, is completely fair.

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YES PLEASE TO ALL OF THIS :)

It just doesn't fight with the aesthetics of the game as a whole or the world at large of Eythris, even the Garlean Empire's clothes fit into the world, and they were as far as we know,w the most advanced race on the planet. I just hope one dawntrail is over and done with we can see more clothing that fit into the world rather than "Modern day clothes" once more

Does anyone have a pic of the new glams?

Most of the clothes look more contemporary to now in the real world, while Solution 9 looks ultra futuristic. They don't really fit together.

I find it ironic that they borrow from FF9 to introduce this futuristic dystopia. FF9 was a return to a more retro style after 2 relatively futuristic games. There is nothing wrong with a futuristic setting in Final Fantasy, but the whole thing is sloppy and they don't seem to get it.

Considering that the last PvP gear was casual, I was expecting this one to be of a different kind. I like casual IRL-inspired glams and I will get the new ones but I wish we obtained them somewhere else so that PvP gave something different each time. Compare, for instance, how distinct the Late Allagan PvP glams are to the Republican Classical-themed ones. I'm also still waiting on a simple tank top without tattoos or extra stuff like belts attached.

There's also the issue that we only get new things to spend crystal trophies on once per expansion.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Remember that more than half of the expansion's premise is about Alexandria and Solution 9... So having stuff that's cohese with that setting is appropriate to say the least. Imagine being on Stormblood and tired of eastern-themed sets...

Plus, looking at the bigger picture, the "high fantasy" versus "modern" stuff released in Dawntrail, it seems quite balanced out.

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The issue isn't here. The issue is that we already had modern glams way back at least since ShB, so by the time of DT people are already fed of them, myself included.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Remember that more than half of the expansion's premise is about Alexandria and Solution 9... So having stuff that's cohese with that setting is appropriate to say the least. Imagine being on Stormblood and tired of eastern-themed sets...

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While it's true that there should be glamours to reflect the locations, there's still consequently an imbalance of "outfits for Solution Nine" vs outfits for other important locations we've visited.

Thavnair was the similar important location for Endwalker, but its entire population has to make do with the original pair of Thavnairian sets, one-and-a-half Palaka designs and three outfits commandeered from other cultures – one of them being specifically an Ala Mhigan design that already did double duty in Ahm Areng.

The Star Velvet vaguely tribal robes does multi-duty as Xaela, Night's Blessed, Thavnairian and Tonawawta traditional clothing.

Culture after culture gets represented with repurposed outfits sourced from things that are already in the game, and that pool of options is even narrower because so much of the glamour that comes out for players is modern and unsuitable.

So yes it is frustrating to see even more modern glamour added "because of Solution Nine" rather than alternating between giving us cool things for all of the cultures and setting up resources for the ones yet to come.

Remember we got the casual PVP outfits in 6.X and then after that we learned S9 was coming, and it was clear that those glamours were set up early to be used as NPC gear and give S9's residents a variety of outfits? Why aren't they doing that again? Why give us even more S9 gear just as we're leaving it and there are no more new NPCs in need of themed outfits?

There's also limited variety in the modern sets. There are a few more unique ones this time at least, but we're also getting baggy shorts and hoodies again.

Stormblood might have been "all Eastern-themed" but it was varied styles.

For the devs who can't fathom elegance and beauty.
https://youtube.com/shorts/IvntFgSF6lM
https://youtu.be/D9M3bmtqs4I
https://youtu.be/sNSBSW7bg-4

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Remember that more than half of the expansion's premise is about Alexandria and Solution 9... So having stuff that's cohese with that setting is appropriate to say the least. Imagine being on Stormblood and tired of eastern-themed sets...

Plus, looking at the bigger picture, the "high fantasy" versus "modern" stuff released in Dawntrail, it seems quite balanced out.

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I think Alexandria and the entire cyberpunk aesthetic doesn't fit into the game, tbh. We had sci-fi tech with the Garleans and places like Azys Llla (which is easily the most hideous zone in the game), this doesn't fit either vibe. It's the same issue I had with the NieR stuff. I think most of the "modern" casual clothing is ugly and the worst part about it is that it's incredibly common. If I go to a major city, I see everyone wearing it. Takes me out of the setting. But hey, seems like a lot of people like it, so...whatever.