111122311123 era is BACK!!!

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08-17-2012, 08:37 AM
Rokien

111122311123 era is BACK!!!

With the new tp system, you will now be spamming 11112221133444 again!~ Welcome back stamina!!!!

Hey, You guys were the ones complaining about this one, not I, I'm welcoming it back, I liked the stamina system.
08-17-2012, 08:38 AM
AsterBarnivere

Why hello there Mr.Vinland, you're just on a roll today aren't you?
08-17-2012, 08:39 AM
AdvancedWind

Another Rokien Thread.

http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...sBlackMage.jpg
08-17-2012, 08:39 AM
TaalAzura

Not is TP regen isn't stupid fast, plus WS CDs say hello.
08-17-2012, 08:42 AM
Rokien

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Originally Posted by TaalAzura

Not is TP regen isn't stupid fast, plus WS CDs say hello.

You start with full tp, those WS CDs were pretty low in that vid. also 5 weapon sills in 20 seconds says hello.
08-17-2012, 08:48 AM
Randelmire

Rokien, I ALWAYS see you complaining.

Why are you still here? Why are you still paying for this game???
08-17-2012, 08:49 AM
TimonLoon

He wants this game to go back to 1.0 because it was so good.
08-17-2012, 08:51 AM
Rokien

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randelmire

Rokien, I ALWAYS see you complaining.

Why are you still here? Why are you still paying for this game???

Am I complaining here? No, I'm not. In fact I'm welcoming this old system back!
08-17-2012, 08:52 AM
Starlord

hehe, if that's what he thinks and believes the let him ^.^ doesn't hurt us any, as long as its not " ACTUALLY" true then were good :P.
08-17-2012, 08:57 AM
Ruisu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

With the new tp system, you will now be spamming 11112221133444 again!~ Welcome back stamina!!!!

Hey, You guys were the ones complaining about this one, not I, I'm welcoming it back, I liked the stamina system.

So we're hitting more than just 1111111111111111111111111111111111111? Cool, it already sounds better than FFXIV at launch.
08-17-2012, 08:58 AM
Vice

I really dig the "Ignore list", it allows me to completely disregard an entire thread if I enter and the OP's post doesn't show up.
08-17-2012, 08:58 AM
Rokien

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruisu

So we're hitting more than just 1111111111111111111111111111111111111? Cool, it already sounds better than FFXIV at launch.

You must have not played the game right, because not only was I hiting 1 before but I was hitting 222333444555666777889999. You should have learned how to play!~ D:
08-17-2012, 08:59 AM
Jennestia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vice

I really dig the "Ignore list", it allows me to completely disregard an entire thread if I enter and the OP's post doesn't show up.

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Yet you replied lol.
08-17-2012, 09:00 AM
Livioti

Rokien, you are so much of a bigot that your picture should literally be next to the definition.
08-17-2012, 09:04 AM
Ruisu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

You must have not played the game right, because not only was I hiting 1 before but I was hitting 222333444555666777889999. You should have learned how to play!~ D:

Oh, I learned how to play that piece of shit. It was still bad. What we have now is much better, and what we're getting in the future seems to be fantastic.
08-17-2012, 09:05 AM
Rokien

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruisu

Oh, I learned how to play that piece of shit. It was still bad. What we have now is much better, and what we're getting in the future seems to be fantastic.

Yet it's the same thing LOL
08-17-2012, 09:05 AM
Arcell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

With the new tp system, you will now be spamming 11112221133444 again!~ Welcome back stamina!!!!

Hey, You guys were the ones complaining about this one, not I, I'm welcoming it back, I liked the stamina system.

There's absolutely nothing that has been said that hints at us returning to anything like the old stamina system. The only stated difference between the current and new system is that you start with full TP. It's up to the user to not make bad decisions with that though, another case of "just because you can doesn't mean you should".

The statement of TP gain over the course of battle could simply be the exact same thing we have now, TP gain (by hitting things) over the course of battle.
08-17-2012, 09:10 AM
Ruisu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

Yet it's the same thing LOL

Yet it isn't! LOL
08-17-2012, 09:17 AM
Rokien

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruisu

Yet it isn't! LOL

How is starting with 100% TP draining it and regaining it back not the same thing as stamina? It's just masked.

Also the 1 key is the exact same thing as 2 key or the 4key. It's all in the mind. The point is, it's the same thing.
08-17-2012, 09:21 AM
Starlord

Well.. if there is no TP by hitting and just TP Regen Over time then in a matter of speaking its has "Stamina-like Feature" in a minor impact. ( Except for Dragoon with Invigorate) other than that Rokien is Half right.

However, its no where near your Op Title of 11111123111111, your no where close on that matter.
08-17-2012, 09:21 AM
Arcell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

How is starting with 100% TP draining it and regaining it back not the same thing as stamina? It's just masked.

Also the 1 key is the exact same thing as 2 key or the 4key. It's all in the mind. The point is, it's the same thing.

We don't know how it regenerates, could be 100% the same as right now where you get it back via attacking.
08-17-2012, 09:22 AM
Ruisu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

How is starting with 100% TP draining it and regaining it back not the same thing as stamina? It's just masked.

Also the 1 key is the exact same thing as 2 key or the 4key. It's all in the mind. The point is, it's the same thing.

So The Witcher plays like Dragon Age, which plays like Final Fantasy VII, by your logic.

Also, you considering the TP system to be anything like the stamina system shows that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Stamina was terrible because it was used for every single goddamn thing. TP is only used for weapon skills. in 1.xx, you had to consume stamina AND TP.
08-17-2012, 09:25 AM
vax

A red mage with Refresh for MP regen on mages and Haste for TP regen on melees should be very nice to see.
08-17-2012, 09:26 AM
Rokien

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruisu

So The Witcher plays like Dragon Age, which plays like Final Fantasy VII, by your logic.

Also, you considering the TP system to be anything like the stamina system shows that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Stamina was terrible because it was used for every single goddamn thing. TP is only used for weapon skills. in 1.xx, you had to consume stamina AND TP.

Yes, it is the same thing, it's just how we look at it.
08-17-2012, 09:31 AM
Vice

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

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Yet you replied lol.

Astute observation! And here I am replying once more. Our eyes are wonderful windows capable of beautiful insight. And I thought this forum was full of idiots. :)
08-17-2012, 09:35 AM
Dawiichan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

Yes, it is the same thing, it's just how we look at it.

Except stamina made you wait to do a regular attack. We also don't know if auto attacking gives you TP either. You try way too hard to be annoying.
08-17-2012, 09:35 AM
Rokien

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vice

Astute observation! And here I am replying once more. Our eyes are wonderful windows capable of beautiful insight. And I thought this forum was full of idiots. :)

Pretty sure I've helped you out before in game, why you being mean?
08-17-2012, 09:36 AM
Rokien

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawiichan

Except stamina made you wait to do a regular attack. We also don't know if auto attacking gives you TP either. You try way too hard to be annoying.

Huh, why you guys still bashing me when I'm happy for it as well? We are all agreeing that we like this new(old) system!
08-17-2012, 09:38 AM
Dawiichan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

Huh, why you guys still bashing me when I'm happy for it as well? We are all agreeing that we like this new(old) system!

I guess it's better than asking for something ridiculous as usual. Believe what you want then.
08-17-2012, 09:38 AM
Achtzen

I think we still start off at 0% tp, it just doesn't degenerate as it currently does so we can use it for later.
08-17-2012, 09:43 AM
Raubahn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

You start with full tp, those WS CDs were pretty low in that vid. also 5 weapon sills in 20 seconds says hello.

why not? BLM has very low CD on some spells if not most so why not on WS also?
+ u havent yet played beta alpha or even the game yet so stop making useless posts about that the game will suck or not sit.

edit: and dont forget hate so DRG,WAR,MNK,BRD wont hit 12454321 constantly :)
08-17-2012, 09:43 AM
Rokien

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achtzen

I think we still start off at 0% tp, it just doesn't degenerate as it currently does so we can use it for later.

We can't have that though, that's FFXI~
08-17-2012, 09:46 AM
Rokien

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Originally Posted by Raubahn

why not? BLM has very low CD on some spells if not most so why not on WS also?
+ u havent yet played beta alpha or even the game yet so stop making useless posts about that the game will suck or not sit.

ya, you know what blm is? You cast the same spells over and over again 12, 12, 12, 123, 12, 123. And use some side abilities. I mean, what do youeven use on ifrit as blm!?! Blah, at least before thm had Dots and all this other cool stuff you could use.

Edit: Umm if mobs die in 20seconds, there is no point for hate. SPAM AOE!!!!
08-17-2012, 09:51 AM
Wolfie

If brains had an anus, Rokien topics would be the result.
08-17-2012, 09:52 AM
SwordCoheir

Yeah.. aren't cooldowns and weapon delay already a form of stamina use because it takes a second to swing a heavy axe repeatedly or recover from casting a spell, so technically the system is already there. And from what I recall a grand majority of folks hated the original stamina system that required you to relay every action, why would you want to see the return of the olden days it takes a level 50 five minutes to kill a level 2 coblyn.
08-17-2012, 09:58 AM
Jennestia

The 2 reasons people disliked stamina was:

1.) It was hard to type when you had to manually attack.
2.) The server and client aren't in perfect sync and needed rebuilding -- this caused skills to use more stamina than it should

Otherwise no one really hated the system itself, it was the side effects of the system.
08-17-2012, 10:02 AM
Wolfie

People disliked stamina because it was another limit on top of an already heavily restricted, broken and unresponsive combat system. It had nothing to do with the fact that it was a regenerating resource mechanic.
08-17-2012, 10:02 AM
Sephrick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jennestia

The 2 reasons people disliked stamina was:

1.) It was hard to type when you had to manually attack.
2.) The server and client aren't in perfect sync and needed rebuilding -- this caused skills to use more stamina than it should

Otherwise no one really hated the system itself, it was the side effects of the system.

I think this is spot on.

And I also think that it's too early to say we'll be spamming like the stamina days. Limit Breaks may call for more strategy than "just zerg out your TP."
08-17-2012, 10:03 AM
Rokien

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jennestia

The 2 reasons people disliked stamina was:

1.) It was hard to type when you had to manually attack.
2.) The server and client aren't in perfect sync and needed rebuilding -- this caused skills to use more stamina than it should

Otherwise no one really hated the system itself, it was the side effects of the system.

I would think a manual attack/stamina(doesn't go down with ws) with this new tp system would be pretty awesome.
08-17-2012, 10:06 AM
Wolfie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokien

I would think a manual attack/stamina(doesn't go down with ws) with this new tp system would be pretty awesome.

Rokien liking something is a good litmus test for that something being s**tty.

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