Forked tower changes

since the devs are forcing people to join stupid discords to do the forked tower now can we get sanguinite outside of it then? since with out that we cant upgrade the armor

You don't need the armour to do FT.
But you can already get a small amount from the support fate that is activated by people inside the tower.
You also aren't being forced to join a discord, this is just how many players wish to coordinate.

Crying about joining a discord is such an odd hill to die on. You sign up for a run and sit in VC on mute.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

You don't need the armour to do FT.
But you can already get a small amount from the support fate that is activated by people inside the tower.
You also aren't being forced to join a discord, this is just how many players wish to coordinate.

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You only get 2 sanguinite from the fate. You need 300 for an armor set IIRC.

Also its technically not a fate which means its spawn isnt marked on the map, so finding it can be a challenge and there's barely any reward.

There is also the fact that it’s now meta to skip the support fate anyway because spawning it inside takes longer than the sanguinite it gives to people inside forked is worth

Honestly they should just add sanguinite as a semi rare drop to any CE that doesn’t currently have a drop and leave forked as the most optimal way if you want to farm it

There is also the consideration there is a decent chance new phantom jobs in 7.45 are purchased with sanguinite as it’s the only currently that doesn’t purchase phantom jobs right now

I just think it’s easiest at this point to give external access to sanguinite even if you do nothing with it and I say that as someone who does forked regularly

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Originally Posted by Canadane

You don't need the armour to do FT.
But you can already get a small amount from the support fate that is activated by people inside the tower.
You also aren't being forced to join a discord, this is just how many players wish to coordinate.

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did i say any where the armor is needed to do FT? no i said to get the needed sanguinite you need to do FT and because you people cant be bothered to just play the game as its set up you have to try to game the system and now youve screwed over the majority of the player base its thee same reason BA is basically dead content because you people forced any clear of it out of the game

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Originally Posted by Altina_Orion

Crying about joining a discord is such an odd hill to die on. You sign up for a run and sit in VC on mute.

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enjoy FT being dead content then

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Originally Posted by geowolf

enjoy FT being dead content then

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DRS and BA arent even dead content and it's the same thing, but go off king.

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Originally Posted by Altina_Orion

DRS and BA arent even dead content and it's the same thing, but go off king.

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occasional clears where you have to go out of the game to clear it is not lively healthy content keep huffing that copeium

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Originally Posted by Canadane

You also aren't being forced to join a discord, this is just how many players wish to coordinate.

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and yes you are especially when youre punished for hopping in to a FT run while not being in a discord

You might consider learning Japanese and playing on the JP data centers as they tend to run a lot of this content without Discord/Voice Chat. You should see the diagrams and stuff they can fit into macros.

The "you shouldn't have to X to Y" argument always makes for great forum bait since while it is not strictly required, it it a tool that makes things much easier in terms of communication, coordination, explaining, recovery, and a whole host of other things.

I personally enjoy the fact that it "requires" Discord since I find it fun to hop into a VC and just chat with people and meme around while getting prepped. I'm curious why people have an aversion to voice chat though - is it a social anxiety thing?

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Originally Posted by Eremite

You might consider learning Japanese and playing on the JP data centers as they tend to run a lot of this content without Discord/Voice Chat. You should see the diagrams and stuff they can fit into macros.

The "you shouldn't have to X to Y" argument always makes for great forum bait since while it is not strictly required, it it a tool that makes things much easier in terms of communication, coordination, explaining, recovery, and a whole host of other things.

I personally enjoy the fact that it "requires" Discord since I find it fun to hop into a VC and just chat with people and meme around while getting prepped. I'm curious why people have an aversion to voice chat though - is it a social anxiety thing?

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Similar to the reasons why an ever-decreasing number of people talk on the phone. I quit a lucrative writing contract when my editor announced we'd have a weekly Zoom meeting.

"Learning Japanese" is certainly one of the more creative suggestions I've seen for clearing content.

That blows my mind to quit a job because of a weekly zoom meeting. Not even saying it's wrong - just not sure why people self sabotage so hard over some social contact. Covid aftershocks maybe?

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

"Learning Japanese" is certainly one of the more creative suggestions I've seen for clearing content.

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Lol, yeah. Don't take that seriously unless you're looking for an excuse to go hard on language learning. :D I was playing on the JP servers for a bit and conversational level is not *nearly* enough to get all the internet/mmo lingo. Mostly I was looking to comment on their method of clearing without VC.

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Originally Posted by Eremite

That blows my mind to quit a job because of a weekly zoom meeting. Not even saying it's wrong - just not sure why people self sabotage so hard over some social contact. Covid aftershocks maybe?

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Where you see self-sabotage, I experience liberation.

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Originally Posted by Eremite

You might consider learning Japanese and playing on the JP data centers as they tend to run a lot of this content without Discord/Voice Chat. You should see the diagrams and stuff they can fit into macros.

The "you shouldn't have to X to Y" argument always makes for great forum bait since while it is not strictly required, it it a tool that makes things much easier in terms of communication, coordination, explaining, recovery, and a whole host of other things.

I personally enjoy the fact that it "requires" Discord since I find it fun to hop into a VC and just chat with people and meme around while getting prepped. I'm curious why people have an aversion to voice chat though - is it a social anxiety thing?

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This is interesting feedback. You need to learn another language, and in this case cultural norms, to complete the content. I highly doubt that's what square was shooting for. I'm glad this has worked for you though.


I think if you applied that level of mental fortitude to any task you'd complete it lol. I wish the game was designed to help players organize better instead of creating these arguments. This is relatively "tame" on the forums and outright violates ToS in game when a player stumbles into an organized Forked Tower run.

I'm not going to comment on your mental health point, I think you should re-evaluate what you're trying to say as it can be interoperated as being rude or dismissive. There is an issue that OC is fairly casual and then has content that is arguably harder than savage in it. Regardless of tools used for organization outside the game, it's going to create frustration in the player base as it throws you to the wolves to learn or frustrate 47 other players.