Bot problem is now even worse.

Bot problem really became worse when now they are joining to alliance raids through duty finder.

When today when i did alliance raid duty roulette and i got The World of Darkness alliance raid and there was 2 bots with exact same look that didn't move to combat area at all and when they got transfered to combat area, they simply stood there for moment doing nothing and when they started to move they both moved exactly same way and didn't evade any of AoE attacks and when those bots died they respawned to starting point immediately.
In final boss of he World of Darkness alliance raid both these bots simply just ran at wall for few minutes doing nothing else.

This is very alarming state of bot problem in FFXIV and FFXIV devs really needs to do something about this bot problem before entire duty finder is filled with bots.

Who cares about the roulettes, they’ve ruined the market, this’s much bigger issue.

Theyll never do anything more than the usual weekly bans where bots just get replaced next day. Understandable on SEs part though, why sink money into a heavier preventive service, someone will find always find a work around...

Nothing will ever get done about this.

It's not even just a problem indicative of their sheer lack of stance towards just botting, but everything third-party to the game generally speaking.

You've literally had people on the forums casually bragging about it.

The only thing we're ever getting is the next disappointed father speech the next time they elect to address a problem that seeps out into articles, journals, etc., and just hoping that it, like every other issue they've ever had just gets faded into obscurity.

Ignoring people until they lose the energy to be upset is basically SE's way of handling things, as long as plugins exist these issues will exist and SE most definitely has no intention on getting rid of plugins.

They are required to do it for the MSQ if they don't skip. It didn't used to be required. So the bot problem would not be noticed as much before that. However, now that they have to do Crystal Tower or skip, you are just noticing a problem that has always existed.

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Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000

Bot problem really became worse when now they are joining to alliance raids through duty finder.

When today when i did alliance raid duty roulette and i got The World of Darkness alliance raid and there was 2 bots with exact same look that didn't move to combat area at all and when they got transfered to combat area, they simply stood there for moment doing nothing and when they started to move they both moved exactly same way and didn't evade any of AoE attacks and when those bots died they respawned to starting point immediately.
In final boss of he World of Darkness alliance raid both these bots simply just ran at wall for few minutes doing nothing else.

This is very alarming state of bot problem in FFXIV and FFXIV devs really needs to do something about this bot problem before entire duty finder is filled with bots.

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I think I was in the same raid, was it the two BLM lalas?

If bots (or players really) cause no damage in a fight, they should allow players to kick them even if the loot is still being rolled on.

The automatic Lalafell bots with nonsensical double barrel names. The ones that move under the ground attacking mobs and teleporting about, then pop up only to speak to MSQ NPCs, are particularly annoying.

When trying to do anything that requires killing mobs, they really mess things up.

Though if you wanna see something funny, watch them teleport to the giant cyclops FATE in Coerthas. That thing does more to stop bots than SE/CBSIII.

A lot of the lalafell bots seem to be blue mages these days for whatever reason. I flew through Coerthas Central Highlands and almost every other ice sprite was in combat with a blue mage bot directly beneath it underground with a gibberish name and the typical default male plainsfolk appearance.

I had a run in with those alliance bots back before Endwalker had even released so it's really not a new practice, just one that's uncommon because the bots largely try to group with each other but occasionally mess up in a way that causes them to get matched with actual players instead.

At the end of the day I think those early game gil farmers are still less of an issue then the players collecting gil through endgame DoL/H botting and controlling the markets. They'd also be a lot easier to keep in check if the moderation team actually cared.

People have been botting FATEs for a long time, and Variant dungeons as well, to no consequence so long as they're not reported. Same thing for Diadem, Field Operations some specific achievements. Breaking the ToS on a main account harms the game's image more than a few Lalafells glitching off the map, in my opinion.

Sometimes I wonder how much of these "active" players are actually players and not just bots... I see them ALL the time and they even found ways to walk under the map... I've seen a lot of bots in central shroud kill enemies but their attacks are activated from underneath the ground so you can't actually click on them and see their names... but I've seen this happen in a few area's... really annoying... not to mention the amount of undercutter bots on the market that ruin the crafter experience all together... it's litterally a waste of time to craft things nowadays since your price will be undercut every 5 minutes... For years I've had this paranonid thought that maybe SE owns these gil seller bots to earn some money on the side... because I never understood why they didn't just check identities of accounts... Just ask yourself... when you make an account they ask for your IRL information.. and when you pay for your sub they can see who the payment is from. So why not block payments when the identity on the account doesn't match the bank account information?

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People have been botting FATEs for a long time, and Variant dungeons as well, to no consequence so long as they're not reported. Same thing for Diadem, Field Operations some specific achievements. Breaking the ToS on a main account harms the game's image more than a few Lalafells glitching off the map, in my opinion.

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The lalafells aren’t simply glitching off the map: they’re gold farmers used for RMT. They do far more damage than the guy who is using a bot to farm fates with a single account.

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Sometimes I wonder how much of these "active" players are actually players and not just bots... I see them ALL the time and they even found ways to walk under the map... I've seen a lot of bots in central shroud kill enemies but their attacks are activated from underneath the ground so you can't actually click on them and see their names... but I've seen this happen in a few area's... really annoying... not to mention the amount of undercutter bots on the market that ruin the crafter experience all together... it's litterally a waste of time to craft things nowadays since your price will be undercut every 5 minutes... For years I've had this paranonid thought that maybe SE owns these gil seller bots to earn some money on the side... because I never understood why they didn't just check identities of accounts... Just ask yourself... when you make an account they ask for your IRL information.. and when you pay for your sub they can see who the payment is from. So why not block payments when the identity on the account doesn't match the bank account information?

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You can see the bots if you target the enemy they are fighting (their name will be on the right at the end of the enemies health bar). You can also see them I found out, if you go to actions and turn on idle camera, there's a chance you'll move the cam to them. I wouldn't be surprised if SE won't take action on the bots because if any pay for subscription (a small cost for what they'll make selling the accounts I imagine) SE probably likes the extra income.

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The lalafells aren’t simply glitching off the map: they’re gold farmers used for RMT. They do far more damage than the guy who is using a bot to farm fates with a single account.

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FATEs are a source of gil, though, so the person you mentioned might also be the person RMTing. Doing this with their main account is much worse. Imagine someone starting this game, and seeing people blatantly breaking the ToS in accounts with 5000+ hours of playtime. The Lalafells have nothing to lose.