give Astro MORE love

it cant be true that whitemage gets everything. THEN delete Astro tbh.

Why didnt get combust 3 a buff? every healer got a dot buff not astro.

so make the changes so astro get a bit more dmg.

Fall Malefic to 300

Combust to 80 in first hit (like whitemage) and then 80 for the dot

Gravity 2 to 150

Please look up what rDPS means

Astro has lower damage because they have better buffs. Including these buffs astro is better

Astro has way more in its toolkit then white mage non damage wise.

I don't exactly see how white mage gets everything?

Why wouldn’t you revive your old thread here?

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Please look up what rDPS means

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Going off tangent from this reply here: let’s just say I’m putting on my optimistic hat & assume the OP isn’t a joke, I do want to point out that SE do not really do justice to make many buffs feel impactful. A damage increase that are almost as good as the fluctuating 5% high/low roll are already barely noticeable on the fly. Add to top of that—if you’re soloing as an AST, the damage on Fall Malefic is already akin to tossing wet noodles, a 6% increase isn’t going to be perceived at all.

I don’t agree with OP’s proposed adjustment, but at the very least I wish the buffs that buffer job provides can be felt throughout the gameplay without having to look up somewhere.

Ah please report this spammer. They keep making threads with the exact same nonsensical stuff.

AST is way stronger than WHM. You have no idea what you're talking about. The buffs that AST gives to their party adds damage to their own, which ends up being more than a WHM does. So the more damage your teammates do as AST when your buffs are up, the more damage YOU do. AST is meta and used first in all high end content because it's extremely strong. it has more healing CDs than whm, more mit, and brings more damage. I'm not sure where you got the opposite impression from, but there is data online that can prove you are incorrect.

Astro is in a state as it litterally handed WHM a shovel and told him to start digging.
The kit is way better suited for the nowdays fight design and provide more to the group.

the only thing I think astro need is maybe a better buff to the healing or it's just me being hella rusty

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the only thing I think astro need is maybe a better buff to the healing or it's just me being hella rusty

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Better buff to it's healing? I don't know what you mean.

Honestly it's healing is better then white mage by a mile.

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

Better buff to it's healing? I don't know what you mean.

Honestly it's healing is better then white mage by a mile.

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I could have played shield for way to long that I struggles with pure but when I play whm and astro. Whm feel fine when I heal but astro feel weird like some healing are well not as good essential dignity feel strange to use and not strong enough

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I could have played shield for way to long that I struggles with pure but when I play whm and astro. Whm feel fine when I heal but astro feel weird like some healing are well not as good essential dignity feel strange to use and not strong enough

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I'd have to disagree Astros aoe healing is crazy good compared to white mages, they just have so much. While white mage pratically has... lilly healing which is quite weak and static in what it does.

In single target its no contest Astros kit beats white mage by a mile Essential Dignity having 3 charges which are 900 potency when used well vs Tetragrammaton being 700 while only 2 charges on a longer recast, they have very comparable single target barrier and mit skills, white mage does have benediction but frankly it's so overated and on such a long cooldown that just having Tetragrammaton on a shorter recast would be better lol. This isn't mentioning the cards which adds extra defensives, healing boost, regen astros single target kit is stacked.

I think white mages kit is more convenient more then anything, so I can understand why some would have a easier time healing on it.

Though I might just be bias because if im going to play a pure healing its astro even if I didn't like it's rework.

Astro was the only one with a fast AoE that can weave beneficial.

Now all healers are in line with astros AoE, WHM is king with holy.

Couple that with presence of mind AND Glare 4.

AST need a buff to damage imo. I used to main AST from HW - DT ots been changed so much, I really don't know what SEs doing with it anymore, so I switched.

Potency should have been bumped up for AST when they put everything in line for AOEs. WHMS was slower but had a stun.

They buffed WHM by putting it on par with ASTS AoE - ASTS aoe doesn't rebuff anymore.. and they have to juggle cards. Silly really. :)

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Potency should have been bumped up for AST when they put everything in line for AOEs. WHMS was slower but had a stun.

They buffed WHM by putting it on par with ASTS AoE - ASTS aoe doesn't rebuff anymore.. and they have to juggle cards. Silly really. :)

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You dont have to "juggle cards" anymore, cards are mostly defensive cooldowns, most you'll juggle is putting one on melee/tank and one on ranged/caster/healer, Holy stun is good but your barely needing to heal in aoe anyway, astros kit is more then enough.

I don't get it. Everything WHM have, AST have it better. But astro mains wants to gut WHM even more? Wants to take away the very little WHM have yet?

AST heals better, does way better rDPS, mits better, already brings buffs, always been meta since Heavensward. Not even SCH were showered with as much love as AST.

I need to remember that WHM had the only useless job gauge (and its nowadays usefulness depends solely on a single spell)? That every time WHM receive more attention than a 5-potency buff is to nerf the job? That most healer role skills were WHM's?

I can agree if you're saying that healers aren't receiving any love. But to say AST is being ignored in favor of.... WHM? That made me giggle.

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I'd have to disagree Astros aoe healing is crazy good compared to white mages, they just have so much. While white mage pratically has... lilly healing which is quite weak and static in what it does.

In single target its no contest Astros kit beats white mage by a mile Essential Dignity having 3 charges which are 900 potency when used well vs Tetragrammaton being 700 while only 2 charges on a longer recast, they have very comparable single target barrier and mit skills, white mage does have benediction but frankly it's so overated and on such a long cooldown that just having Tetragrammaton on a shorter recast would be better lol. This isn't mentioning the cards which adds extra defensives, healing boost, regen astros single target kit is stacked.

I think white mages kit is more convenient more then anything, so I can understand why some would have a easier time healing on it.

Though I might just be bias because if im going to play a pure healing its astro even if I didn't like it's rework.

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oh like I have said it could be me being overly rusty haha I lvled astro and Whm before both shield then only played shield healers since then xx)

AST have also received their big a$$ 8y Graviballs that really have bad tendencies to cover my screen when I play as a tank. Long gone those days when you actually had to think which target you want to cast your Graviballs at so you won’t miss half of the pack.

Assuming the talk of AoE is referring to dungeon pulls, I think AST has received enough glazing that their AoE potential is at a decent level compared to the rest of their siblings. Earthly Star every minute. A bit of a bonker AoE potential during 2m reopeners with Oracle & Lord. Macrocosmos is also another but doesn’t necessarily lines up properly depending on when or how you use it yet still a dps gain in AoE. I don’t see how one can say AST ‘need more’.

If you want to go big boom i.e. dump double misery in a wall pull, Glare IVs, and Assize degree of damage as a healer, then maybe the 'solution' is to play WHM?

In my opinion Astro has too much stuff. Way too much single target mits outside of the cards which renders 4 cards almost always useless. There are 3 major job mechanics that have nothing to do with each other at all. The cards, divination, healing - these all work separately so there's no flow in the job at all, which is a complete disaster. What they do when this type of bad job design happens is make the job actually quite powerful even though it's a mess so it's still usable. I believe this problem is in many other jobs, I can only hope and cope that they're going to sort this all out in 8.0 but I doubt it.