Hrothgar and Viera Hats 7.0 and beyond

I've tried to be understanding when it was stated that older hats would not be available for Hrothgar and Viera.
We are in 7.2 and they are still making hats that are not available for either. It is patently unacceptable that in 7.2 we can't wear things like the "Neon Street Cap." Among other items the "Dark Horse Champion's Hat of Casting" You can wear the mask and not the actual hat. I seriously think we need to make a petition to get this resolved.

A petition is a good idea.

I would love to have the hats and stuff for my viera, but i think we will never get it and this has a simple reason.

SE or more CBU3 is to tiny to work on Final Fantasy 14, the backlog of them is huge, years of work huge! But they are about 300-400 people in that únit.
While a World of Warcraft or a Star Citizen has over 1000 people, one of the top mobile mmos "Wuthering Waves" have 1500 people work on that game.

SE is stuck in the past, with only about 300-400 people, who most all speak japanese and most of them can't speak english. For an international gaming company this is a no go!
They stuck in the time, 35 years ago, where 10 guys in a office with 24/7 crunch time produce mario kart. They will never do it, if they not change, they must go international and work in enlgish.
Then they can hire more people and start to work on that huge backlog and new stuff.

But so, i am sorry to say, i never will see hats for my viera.

The Hrothgar at least doesn't make much sense, why they got to wait so long, I couldn't really see it being bad for clipping to hide the ears since they are so tucked back... Could just be the head shape?

Viera though will always be difficult I think. There's not much one can do about the bunny ears.

Like just imagining a knights helm or something - unless you completely ignore the ears or have them jut through...

Hmm... I do hope that Viera and Hroth get hats someday I'm going to assume they are trying their best to update all those items and have them not look absolutely scuffed.

I don't care if my Bun alt's ears jut through any hats and helms, just let me wear them plz.

If clipping bothered them truly, we wouldn't have tails and long robes, or weapons visible on the back, or long hair and high collars.

Let's not pretend bunny ears clipping would somehow be worse than any of that.
They just don't consider it a priority and won't until their reputation tanks because of it.

Need big name streamers to cry about it so maybe something can be done.

I had this crazy idea in my mind where if I met Yoshi-P, I'd gift him a physical photo album called "Don't tell me it's not Possible" and it'd be filled with prints of pictures of buns and hroths wearing hats on PC.

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Originally Posted by Sharindel

I would love to have the hats and stuff for my viera, but i think we will never get it and this has a simple reason.

SE or more CBU3 is to tiny to work on Final Fantasy 14, the backlog of them is huge, years of work huge! But they are about 300-400 people in that únit.
While a World of Warcraft or a Star Citizen has over 1000 people, one of the top mobile mmos "Wuthering Waves" have 1500 people work on that game.

SE is stuck in the past, with only about 300-400 people, who most all speak japanese and most of them can't speak english. For an international gaming company this is a no go!
They stuck in the time, 35 years ago, where 10 guys in a office with 24/7 crunch time produce mario kart. They will never do it, if they not change, they must go international and work in enlgish.
Then they can hire more people and start to work on that huge backlog and new stuff.

But so, i am sorry to say, i never will see hats for my viera.

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See I could understand them not going back and fixing old hats, but 7.0 and beyond I feel it’s unacceptable when we’ve had the races for 6 years.

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Originally Posted by Keumjo

If clipping bothered them truly, we wouldn't have tails and long robes, or weapons visible on the back, or long hair and high collars.

Let's not pretend bunny ears clipping would somehow be worse than any of that.
They just don't consider it a priority and won't until their reputation tanks because of it.

Need big name streamers to cry about it so maybe something can be done.

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This part! If clipping was the issue, this wouldn’t be an issue!

Yeah. Aside from the old and valid complaint of no hats yet. They are just making it worse on themselves on not designing the new hats to fit Viera and Hrotgar.

It basically has to be some dev who does it by pure charity at the moment. I feel sorry for console players, but if youre a pc player there is the way of true.. black magic to fix this issue

What I find the most appalling is that they can't even be bothered making hats from the store work, it's a whole other level of lazy to not even bother making sure sets that players are forking out already ludicrous amounts of money for are fully equippable. It absolutely needs to be a bigger deal than it is.

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

What I find the most appalling is that they can't even be bothered making hats from the store work, it's a whole other level of lazy to not even bother making sure sets that players are forking out already ludicrous amounts of money for are fully equippable. It absolutely needs to be a bigger deal than it is.

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I’m thinking of making a mega petition and translate it to Japanese and getting as many signatures as possible. I’ve seen so many post complaining about it but none seem to get a lot of traction.

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Originally Posted by Umashu

I’m thinking of making a mega petition and translate it to Japanese and getting as many signatures as possible. I’ve seen so many post complaining about it but none seem to get a lot of traction.

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I would sign a petition, but I wouldn't expect SE to care. I have zero faith in them. I'm being obnoxious about it in the forums because I am vindictive.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

Yeah. Aside from the old and valid complaint of no hats yet. They are just making it worse on themselves on not designing the new hats to fit Viera and Hrotgar.

It basically has to be some dev who does it by pure charity at the moment. I feel sorry for console players, but if youre a pc player there is the way of true.. black magic to fix this issue

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I tried using this black magic you speak of, but I always hated how careful I had to be when screenshotting gameplay. That, and knowing I wasn't showing off the entirety of my glams to other players was a bummer (I know there's a popular plugin for this, but it's not the same).

Still, I miss playing as a Viera or Hrothgar. :/ I'm not used to being a shorty!

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

I tried using this black magic you speak of, but I always hated how careful I had to be when screenshotting gameplay.

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Unless it's the official forums, no one cares what cosmetic sorcery is visible in your screenshots.

I've mentioned it before several times, but the most I would be willing to give them a pass for is anything pre-shadowbringers not working because from Shadowbringers on, they knew these races existed and the work that would need to go into them

Putting it off, to me, seems like it would only increase the backlog of hats they would need to get working
Though I've seen people mention it's the hairstyles themselves and not the hats, but I don't know enough to speak on it with any authority - either way, it's something SE needs to fix
I don't even personally wear hats, so it doesn't affect me all that much, but it would still be nice to have for those that really want the feature

From what I've read online, it seems we were meant to get unique hairstyles to compensate for the lack of hats, but we've received neither

The bare minimum that should work are:
- Shadowbringers and beyond
- Mogstation items
- MSQ related cosmetics, like the imperial helmets you wear to disguise yourself on two different occasions

The mogstation one is especially egregious, because you pay actual money for those items

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Originally Posted by CVXIV

I've mentioned it before several times, but the most I would be willing to give them a pass for is anything pre-shadowbringers not working because from Shadowbringers on, they knew these races existed and the work that would need to go into them

Putting it off, to me, seems like it would only increase the backlog of hats they would need to get working
Though I've seen people mention it's the hairstyles themselves and not the hats, but I don't know enough to speak on it with any authority - either way, it's something SE needs to fix
I don't even personally wear hats, so it doesn't affect me all that much, but it would still be nice to have for those that really want the feature

From what I've read online, it seems we were meant to get unique hairstyles to compensate for the lack of hats, but we've received neither

The bare minimum that should work are:
- Shadowbringers and beyond
- Mogstation items
- MSQ related cosmetics, like the imperial helmets you wear to disguise yourself on two different occasions

The mogstation one is especially egregious, because you pay actual money for those items

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And the fact we got no new hair is honestly a slap in the face. It feels like both races were doomed to fail. That’s why they are literally the least played races

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Originally Posted by Umashu

And the fact we got no new hair is honestly a slap in the face. It feels like both races were doomed to fail. That’s why they are literally the least played races

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Also because they aren't available in the Free Trial. Seen a few posts of people who bought the game because they were excited about being these races then turn around and go, "WAIT THEY CAN'T WEAR HATS?"

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

What I find the most appalling is that they can't even be bothered making hats from the store work, it's a whole other level of lazy to not even bother making sure sets that players are forking out already ludicrous amounts of money for are fully equippable. It absolutely needs to be a bigger deal than it is.

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TBH I'd accept a discounted set w/o the hats for sale. I mean, just a separate listing for everything except hats for outfits should be easier but no.

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

What I find the most appalling is that they can't even be bothered making hats from the store work

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They can't pick and choose which hats work because the root issue for Viera isn't the hat itself, it's their hair model. For whatever reason their hair isn't built to compress when under a hat and thus any hats that expose the hair will not work. The devs have to address that root cause to solve the problem.