levin sickness

So since we know that the people of Alexandria suffering from levin sickness. I personally hope that we can get to see Alisaie using her Porxy to help the people that has the levin sickness since it is very similar to tempered by an primal. I hope they will address this in 7.2 or in a future post msq.

I'm not sure if we can permanently cure them of it. As the reason why it even has a chance to happen in the 1st place is due to the dome and the constant thunderstorm happening in the areas surrounding the everkeep. We would have to dissipate the dome. I think the constant thunderstorm is also tributing to how the electrope in the area keeps its charge. I do hope that they address somewhere. As us meeting that bed ridden child scene could have been a non voiced one or just cut. As it's only other purpose is to give yet another example of how that Sphene cared about everyone. And I guess to have an msq showing that there are some setbacks to having so much levin aspected aether as not everyone will have gone and done the garbage collector quest.

I feel like the way they've talked about the illness in the story so far foreshadows a cure being discovered in the course of the story. My big question is - if the mysterious woman from the stinger is the real Sphene, the one who died of levin sickness shortly after ascending the throne, does she still have it, or would she still be just as susceptible to the conditions? At first I was inclined towards a macabre joke that "we're gonna have to have that forgotten funeral again", but given all the other clues I think it might be more poetic if real!Sphene's return only highlights that the Sphene created by Preservation, and the one now seemingly controlled by same, were not her; if so, helping cure her (and the others) in time for her to lead them into a regulator-less future would be a neat ending to that arc.

inb4 Wuk gets sentimental as hells that she gets to be her bff after all.

I'd also put forward that it's entirely possible that a porxie can't cure levin sickness. Like, we're here basically just assuming that it resembles light corruption or tempering enough to be fixed in the same way, but we're only assuming that because of a vague, off-the-cuff description sounding like it lines up.

I agree with SannaR that, even if it's the same thing to enough of a degree that the porxie could fix it, the problem is environmental to the point where a cure wouldn't do anything; using a porxie to cure tempering could work because we can kill a primal, but we can't kill Alexandria's baseline living conditions, the sickness will just return. And even then, I actually suspect we wouldn't be that lucky; we know that porxies can't help once physical changes happen, and while we don't know if that's 'it's too late in general' or 'it can't fix the physical changes', I'd put forward that symptoms like full-body paralysis might well count as 'physical changes'.

EDIT: I should say that I do think there will be a story on some level tackling the treatment of levin sickness, but it might be just that: a treatment. We're not gonna cure it, we're just gonna figure out a way to make it happen less or cause less pain. And honestly, it's probably a Tural thing; I can definitely see a story about Tural opening, like, a rehabilitation clinic where people with non-terminal levin sickness can recover.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

inb4 Wuk gets sentimental as hells that she gets to be her bff after all.

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And then an even more sentimental farewell as it turns out that, no, it's not gonna work out that way.

In an expansion with this high a bodycount, in a story with this much focus on grieving and memorializing the dead, in an entire game as stuck on discussing the human response to the creeping inevitability of death as a whole? Hell no is someone gonna just come back from the dead and that situation's gonna be and remain happy.

Also, there's a fairly solid chance that 'Real Sphene' actually doesn't remember or know Wuk Lamat and might not even like her as much, but that all feels like a sideline discussion.

Maybe the regulators can be repurposed to combat against the electro sickness, just stuff a bunch of porxies in them! But they would likely not be able to hold soul cells in them anymore as a result.

Come to think of it, maybe Regulators, Porxies, and Warding Scales could be combined to make some super device that can make further exploration of The 13th safer.

And i wonder what other symptoms the levin sickness has as it seems it very similar to the chronic illnesses.

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Originally Posted by mallleable

Maybe the regulators can be repurposed to combat against the electro sickness, just stuff a bunch of porxies in them! But they would likely not be able to hold soul cells in them anymore as a result.

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How can regulators be repurposed in such a way ? Do you mean we could store a soul having an opposite elements to bring back an aetheric balance in the patient's body ?

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Originally Posted by SannaR

We would have to dissipate the dome. I think the constant thunderstorm is also tributing to how the electrope in the area keeps its charge. I do hope that they address somewhere.

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Wouldn't dissipating the dome be the same as severing the link between the two shards ? Despite the presence of the vanguard ?
Or if I want to take it further, even if we succeeded at "dissipating" the dome while maintaining the shard in the source, wouldn't it be a risk to contaminate Tural with a sudden surcharge in thunder aether ?

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Originally Posted by Astralia

How can regulators be repurposed in such a way ? Do you mean we could store a soul having an opposite elements to bring back an aetheric balance in the patient's body ?

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Maybe not literally the more I think about it, but -- and I could be wrong, because Porxies are arcane entities it could be possible to recreate their abilities as an Electrope circuit, and that circuit could be integrated into a Regulator. Some modifications might be needed so it only focuses on lightning aether. Though it would be hilarious if it turned out a Porxie can be just shoved into a Regulator!

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Originally Posted by mallleable

Maybe not literally the more I think about it, but -- and I could be wrong, because Porxies are arcane entities it could be possible to recreate their abilities as an Electrope circuit, and that circuit could be integrated into a Regulator. Some modifications might be needed so it only focuses on lightning aether. Though it would be hilarious if it turned out a Porxie can be just shoved into a Regulator!

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That's not completely idiotic actually ! I like your idea !
Especially because initially, we needed supercomputers fueled by ceruleum to develop that formula. I don't remember why it has to be porxies though (maybe cuz a "human" does not have enough aether to cast it), but it wouldn't be so wrong to imagine a living circuit containing that formula, maybe with magismology we can do wonders

I have to agree. Malleable seems to most logical at the moment in xiv.

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Originally Posted by Astralia

Wouldn't dissipating the dome be the same as severing the link between the two shards ? Despite the presence of the vanguard ?
Or if I want to take it further, even if we succeeded at "dissipating" the dome while maintaining the shard in the source, wouldn't it be a risk to contaminate Tural with a sudden surcharge in thunder aether ?

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I think currently the only part of Alexandria that still isn't 100% attached to the source is Living Memory. So making the dome go away shouldn't be that bad. Obviously you would have to do it in a way that wouldn't cause the lightning to go haywire and cause even more destruction. Yet I'm not sure if they want to put the Everkeep into an Azys La or Tempest situation where for us they have to stay looking the same but that at some point in time the air bubbles will disappear and the various floating islands will come crashing down due to us shutting off huge swaths of its power sources. I headcannon that the Garleans have somehow managed to go and rescue what was left of Regula's crew after we defeated Zurvan and some time before 6.0. If Stephanivien can safely steal an Allagan engineering robot with very little hassle then Garlemald should be able to retrieve any personal that might still be there.

Regarding the sickness that kid have, is it explained how did he get sick ?
Cuz, making a parallel with ShB and the 1st shard, this getting similar sickness were transforming into sin eaters, some because they were hit by sin eaters, or eating the buns Vauthry gave, others because being too much exposed to light ? But this much exposition would come only if you went to the great void right ?

So I was wondering, in the 1st shard, should we have had to make protecting scales (from Vrtra scales if available at that time) to venture into the 1st shard ? and same into that lightning dome ? Why did we not do it ?

Another question: since in a shard hit by such aether taking over the others, do the actions requiring that same element go haywire too ? or why do they not ? In that lightning dome, seems like electrope is confining lightning to make things work, so in A4, setting aside the health problems regarding the use of regulators, Eutrope/Wicked Thunder is overusing electrope and lightning aether, so why does it not go haywire in a world overflowing with lightning ?

Meaning, whether it be the 1st shard or any other shard dominated by one particular element, it should be forbidden to use magic related to that element since it could/should accelerate exposition and deterioration of one's body ?

Milos’ sickness was due to him being genetically sensitive to lightning aether, in an environment suffused with it. Since the scions have no such condition, and the environment isn’t as bad as the 13th no scales were needed. Alisaie even mentions that while the porxie is able to realign his aether it can’t to anything about his sensitivity and he can quite easily relapse.

And no, magics of the same element as an overaspected shard don’t mutate, the ones of the voidsent didn’t, so why would lightning in Alexandria.