New Jobs in Each Expansion

Forgive me if this has been pointed out before, but it occurred to me that in each expansion since Shadowbringers, one of the new jobs that came out with that expansion was directly related to whichever previous Final Fantasy game most influenced that expansion.

1. Shadowbringers introduced Gunbreaker, and was most influenced by Final Fantasy 8 (the Eden raids, etc.). Gunbreaker is obviously based on Squall and Seifer from 8.
2. Endwalker introduced Sage, and was most influenced by Final Fantasy 4 (the moon, the Loporrits, the Four Fiends, etc.). Tellah the Sage was a memorable character from 4.
3. Dawntrail introduced Viper, and was most influenced by Final Fantasy 9 (Alexandria, etc.). The Viper weapon is reminiscent of Zidane's "Thief Sword" weapons from 9.

Using this information, we could either a), speculate on which job might be introduced next, if we know ahead of time which previous Final Fantasy game will most influence the next expansion, or b), if we learn the new job first, speculate about which previous Final Fantasy game will most influence the next expansion.

I would prefer zero, and in NO new jobs until they fix what they have already. why add more garbage to the same pile? why not stop, FIX and then add if they can.

diluting the soup even further never makes it better... just worse all around.

no new jobs. no new races.
fix what is broken FIRST

i vote next expansion be based on FF7 so we can get a soldier type job, iam tired of big two handers being tank exclusive i want to run around as a dps with a big sword and not be forced to play a tank if i want a two hander

They already said Fem Roth was the last race to be added.

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Originally Posted by Mijeme

They already said Fem Roth was the last race to be added.

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They originally said that Hrothgar and Viera were the last races to be added. But then they got pressured by the community to add Male Viera and Female Hrothgar. At the time of that, they said that although it would probably be the last, they may be pressured to add more like they were with the Male Viera and Female Hrothgar.

However, it would probably take posts with hundreds of replies like those did for it to happen and it makes the process of developing gear even more taxing because of having to adjust it for more races, and obviously they still haven't managed the hats and customization options.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

I would prefer zero, and in NO new jobs until they fix what they have already. why add more garbage to the same pile? why not stop, FIX and then add if they can.

diluting the soup even further never makes it better... just worse all around.

no new jobs. no new races.
fix what is broken FIRST

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I second no new jobs.

I believe they also said they don't know if we're increasing the level cap past 100 or if they'll do a full job/gameplay overhaul with some sort of reset or something like merits from FFXI. If it's the latter then I'd prefer them to add no new jobs so they can concentrate on fixing up what we have now instead of spending the resources to make something new and having to balance it. The job roster is already bloated enough as it is.

If they have to add 1 new job, I'd hope it's a ranged physical and they can somehow use it to balance out that whole mess that group has. Maybe Blitzballer from FFX like people have been talking about for years here? Maybe split the ranged physicals into debuffers and supporters? Work that into Meracydia being covered in ancient ruined machina cities and Thancred laughs like a seagull?

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

I would prefer zero, and in NO new jobs until they fix what they have already. why add more garbage to the same pile? why not stop, FIX and then add if they can.

diluting the soup even further never makes it better... just worse all around.

no new jobs. no new races.
fix what is broken FIRST

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I'm expecting them to not add any jobs next expansion because of the reworks, but I'm also expecting the reworks to ruin what remains or change very little. I have zero faith in the battle content designers at this point, especially if they're split between XIV and the unnamed CS3 project.

If they do a new job it needs to be only 1 job and it needs to be Physical Ranged and then rebalance physical ranged dps as a whole. The other efforts can be done on all the other jobs. Honestly I would be happier if they did 0 new jobs and focused on improving the existing jobs.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They originally said that Hrothgar and Viera were the last races to be added. But then they got pressured by the community to add Male Viera and Female Hrothgar.

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Alright, read that once more and very careful this time.
They got pressured into making male Vier aand female Hroth cause they didn't deliver both races but only half of each.
This was entirely due to half-assing it.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

However, it would probably take posts with hundreds of replies like those did for it to happen and it makes the process of developing gear even more taxing because of having to adjust it for more races, and obviously they still haven't managed the hats and customization options.

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Which is an absolute embarrassment.
I am not interested in any more races, all I was asking for was Viera due to their presence throughout of FF.
However after 6 years of still having these races being unfinished this "taxing workload" argument falls flat. It's just negligence and laziness.

I absolutely agree they shouldn’t add any more next expansion until they’ve dealt the existing ones lol.

That said I absolutely believe SE is genuinely stupid enough to try and push out two more jobs next expansion and just make every other job in the game suffer (again lol)

I imagine they would eventually tone it down to 1 job per expac at some point. It would be nice if they just stop making new jobs and deal with the existing ones but... they probably won't. Because 'new' jobs.... sells. :/

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Originally Posted by Marcus89

Forgive me if this has been pointed out before, but it occurred to me that in each expansion since Shadowbringers, one of the new jobs that came out with that expansion was directly related to whichever previous Final Fantasy game most influenced that expansion.

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There's the bigger issue. Can we be done with it now? Shoe-horning different games into this one is a key reason the story in 14 is increasingly lacking coherence.

More healing and tank jobs please. We don't need another dps that takes 69 minutes to get queued for a dungeon.

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More healing and tank jobs please. We don't need another dps that takes 69 minutes to get queued for a dungeon.

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The number of healer jobs is irrelevant to why nobody wants to play them

Hell the 4 current healers are basically the same job already, adding a 5th shade of the same boring healer design isn’t going to move the queue needle unless they actually fix healers

Honestly, we're not far off from them selling us jobs for an expansion only to turn around at its launch and say "Sorry, not finished yet but they will be finished within this expansion - please stay subbed and look forward to it" Only for them to finally release them years later during a x.58 patch.

I just really dislike this extremely obvious drip-feed of partially doing things/starting them but never entirely following through, even with the graphics update where some things are HQ and others look like the budget to texture the item was 23 seconds and limited to using mspaint blindfolded & using their non dominant hand - Perhaps I'm lacking in knowledge but I just find the entire half-effort approach quite bizarre.

I doubt they will stop new jobs to work on the existing ones, if they do well look foward to pvp auto button rotation jobs lol.

I would be all for no new jobs if they could overhaul the entire combat system and jobs. But I really doubt it would happen.
Even the 8.0 talk I kinda expect it will still be the SHB foundation with current rotation, 1 new gcd and/or ogcd tied to 1min/2min buttons, and then some visual and potency upgrades for current abilities.

8.0 should add two healers, then they might have a reason to actually look into healer gameplay for once.

I think one new race, if we give more money would be great. Like somekind of rigged to hyur model again, maybe furry ears, maybe really complex ears so they dont have to worry about designing hats or the pressure of it, because the community is unfairly pressuring them to design hats when its really really hard hard work and tons of resources from their studio.

I think the haters should give them money if they want hats.
Also I think they should meet quota of their perfect Yoshi-P designed formula and rush for the two jobs, its like knowing you have a bottle of milk in the shop always. Its expected and its okay to keep the formula the same, people wanting new things are honestly too greedy when the formula is already more perfect than what WoW would ever give.

Remember to smile and stop being greedy, lets donate them more money you guys and become the best community

honestly no new job and make what we have more unique and special oh and less broken and crap as it is. give all the job a identity again! and make healer relevant!

De-Homogenise jobs and you made probably 10 "new" jobs right there.

Yeah, they've already mentioned a few times they want to continue to add jobs for the foreseeable future, its pretty much one of their selling points/gimmicks for FF14. As for current jobs they'll prolly continue "streamlining" them. It all really depends on their plan for 8.0, level squish, trees, skill augmentation, master system (basically leveling with more steps) well just have to see what they come up with. While anything they do won't make or break the game itll still make or break a lot of players on continuing to subscribe, but FF14 will live on though, even with a mass falling, it'll take something like SE goes bankrupt really.