I would love to see a XIV Tactics Game

Looking up different weapons for my weapon poll (which you should totally check out if you haven't yet) made me think about the Tactics/Ivalice series of games and it got me thinking: I would like a Tactics game based on XIV.

This isn't a new idea at all, seeing at back in HW the devs made a video called Tactics Alexander, which is a mini retelling of the Alexander raid's story in the OG Tactics isometric, sprite style.

Now, I don't want a 1-for-1 retelling of XIV's story but maybe they could change things slightly. For example, instead of playing the WoL, we could play as another adventurer who is in the background, having their own separate story experiencing the big events from a different angle.

Like with the other Tactics game, there would be more of a focus on collecting different generic units of different playable races and selecting their jobs to your liking, with a few special units sprinkled in. Maybe they could use Squadrons as an inspiration?

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Please do not let CBU3 anywhere near an esteemed franchise like FF Tactics.

I'd love if CBU3 could try their hands at a FF Tactics game.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

This isn't a new idea at all, seeing at back in HW the devs made a video called Tactics Alexander, which is a mini retelling of the Alexander raid's story in the OG Tactics isometric, sprite style.

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Ooooh, I had never seen this before, it actually looks extremely cool.

Honestly a side game of sorts would be interesting to expand on the situation around FFXIV's version of Ivalice, and even tell an outright new story around this version of the nation, like we know XIV's Ashe is alive, Fran is around, so on.

I wish the Tactics series weren't dead but it'd also be very ironic if the series known for its many unique and varied jobs were associated with this game. Maybe another team should handle it...

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Originally Posted by HunkyMarauder

Please do not let CBU3 anywhere near an esteemed franchise like FF Tactics.

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I didn't say CBU3 had to make it. Maybe they could get Matsuno to direct it? (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)

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Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi

Ooooh, I had never seen this before, it actually looks extremely cool.

Honestly a side game of sorts would be interesting to expand on the situation around FFXIV's version of Ivalice, and even tell an outright new story around this version of the nation, like we know XIV's Ashe is alive, Fran is around, so on.

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I didn't think about telling XIV's version of Ivalice's story. It could be interesting to see the fall of Ivalice from Ashe's perspective. (◎0◎)

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Originally Posted by Moqi

I wish the Tactics series weren't dead but it'd also be very ironic if the series known for its many unique and varied jobs were associated with this game. Maybe another team should handle it...

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I think a single-player game with a different type of gameplay would help. They'd also have to take things like movement and jumping height into consideration. They could even try to bring back Faith and Bravery too. (✿〇∀〇)

I think we're long overdue for a new Tactics game.

If it was related to FF14, I think it would be best if it didn't follow the main story and instead took place in a different part of the world or time period... like maybe in the past when the Garlean Empire was at their height with Emperor Solus zos Galvus (aka our Ascian buddy) serving as the main antagonist.

Maybe jobs would take the FFTA route where each race only had certain jobs they could change to?

I think if it was about FFXIV it could then be within FFXIV. Although, on one hand I feel FFXIV has enough work making normal jobs feel unique, but on the other hand I could see a sort of 'super adventure' for FFXIV, where they go all out with a game within a game. Perhaps combine it with a revamp of verminion (its kind of fun but has a few glaring issues that prevent it from, imo, being a solid game mode). If the game mode is fun, then can add sagas over time- like telling stories from the perspective of other major characters. Louisoix leading up to Dalamud. The GC leaders before we know them. The dragon war, etc. As an aside, Tower Defense could be another fun mini-game to add (and reuse minions from verminion if you add Maul / Line Defense (wc3 games)).

Or since I've been playing plunderstorm recently (WoW's sort of fortnite), honestly a smash em together tactics style could probably work (unlikely to maintain the turnbased stuff tho..)- where you quickly grow jobs and make your own. Blue mage would probably fit well there too.


I feel though, if it is an entirely stand alone game, that I kind of hope it is in the tactics world.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I feel though, if it is an entirely stand alone game, that I kind of hope it is in the tactics world.

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Oh, but that's the fun part, there is no such a thing as a consistent Tactics world!

Okay, so, there are 3 Tactics games, you may know all this but I enjoy laying things out, so bear with me, Final Fantasy Tactics, which originally released for PS1, and it is set in Ivalice, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced, for the GBA, and it is set in Ivalice, and Final Fantasy Tactics A2, which is a sort-of sequel to Advanced, and set in Ivalice... except "Ivalice" is being used like the town's bicycle here, and none of these games are set in the same Ivalice.

FFTA is set in a false Ivalice created by the grimoire found by Mewt Randell, trying to shape a world that would fulfill Mewt's desires, it is completely separate from any other game... except TA2, which is set in real Ivalice, and their connective point lies in Mewt's original world, where Luso Clemens finds the grimoire, and perhaps lacking a deep wish the same way as Mewt had, was transported to Ivalice by it, but the real one, notably this Ivalice is confirmed to be the same Ivalice as FFXII's, thanks to Vaan and Penelo being optional party members, set an nondescript amount of time after FFXII.

What about original FFT? okay this is where it gets a bit convoluted, originally the land where FFT takes place was not named, and only later stated to be Ivalice, with the official statement being that it is set in an Ivalice so far ahead in time than any other that Humes are the last remaining race in the world, this is largely because they were trying to retroactively justify the absence of the other races, this means that even if FFT is set in the same Ivalice as FFTA2 and XII, it's such a different cultural landscape they have hardly anything in common, and might as well be another place altogether.

My point being, that while Tactics is strongly tied to Ivalice, there is no such a thing as "the" Ivalice, with each game displaying almost completely distinct world while keeping some common traits, like the races of Ivalice, or the gameplay style, this is why I suggested setting a potentially XIV-connected Tactics game on our Ivalice, it would allow us to tie into one of the constants of Tactics games, while still keeping it within the context of XIV.

I'd rather they leave FFT alone at this point. Granted, VeyaAkemi is right in that FFT's lore and story have about as much cross-game consistency as melted taffy, I still adore them. And frankly speaking the lackluster attention to detail and the underwhelming passion CB3 has been bringing to projects lately makes me hesitant. They can't seem to get FFXIV right, and swing from one promise to another. I'd rather not have them tease my heart with another tactics game only to Dawntrail it, or 2 minute rotation it, so to speak.

After EW and DT basically destroying all lore threads, I have zero interest in seeing any story in the FF14 universe.

"Oh let's go back to the Fifth Astral Era and have a game about Mhach and Amdapor" --> Who cares?? Apparently the Void was all about Golbez being depressed and summoning voidsents is just opening portals to the 13th and ... etc. They tied up literally every loose end in EW and DT, and worst of all made the Twelve just a bunch of Hydaelyn followers who want to seppuku so the religions in FF14 don't make any sense now either. There's no mystery left in the FF14 universe anymore. People think Ishikawa was a great writer, but she cannot write a good story without destroying the worldbuilding and leaving behind a mess that can no longer be a foundation for a good story in the future.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...ately_purging/

Damn this is the first time I've seen such a scathing review of Ishikawa's work (not that I disagree, I have only just started Endwalker but I didn't like Shadowbringer at all for sidelining and reducing all of Eorzea's political storylines to feels and Ascians all along).