8.0 NEW JOB DESIGN WILL SAVE FF14!

7.2 NEW EXPLORATORY ZONE WILL SAVE FF14!

7.0 NEW CONTENT DESIGN WILL SAVE FF14!

ONCE THEY FINISH DEVELOPING FF16 THEY WILL COME BACK AND SAVE FF14!

ONCE COVID ENDS THEY'LL GO BACK TO OFFICES AND SAVE FF14!

Man the day Yoshi starts to talk about the new Job Design, half the Players will Rage. I have the feeling that more Jobs will end like Summoners. Braindead with less fun to play.

a few classes are def going to get shafted xD

I just really hope they drop this balance focus and make the classes fun to play

No utility, no variance, only a vain attempt at balance and braindead job design.

i see copium

I was about to write a reply about how we shouldn't cling to the possible future update X.Y that will surely be the one, but I was baited. Well played!

Another Highlander!

Sorry but, when did YoshiP talked about new job design?
He said : Job identity, no job design.

For me it's mean : VFX and SFX, nothing more.

I personally don't think the jobs need to be redesigned, except for perhaps some more streamlining to ensure our hotbars don't become too heavy but I do agree that people are really hoping for too much here and are bound to be disappointed.

People are talking about it like they are going to completely overhaul every single job but nothing I've heard from the devs has really pointed to the changes being that drastic, but maybe I missed something.

Are people missing obvious sarcasm here?
At this point tbh I agree, lots of copium to be inhaled.

8.0 Predictions
1) Changes nobody asked for
2) Changes that JP asked for
3) Feedback from regions outside JP, discarded and ignored.
4) One job overperforming
5) Ranged physical still can't catch a break even with changes
6) Melees are slightly behind, like monk, but don't worry, they will get gigabuffed
7) If there is a new ranged physical it's either weak or it's pictomancer levels of strong

Mao predictings jobs becoming more samey as long as Devs keep doubling down on DDR-style boss fights.

Honestly I've seen more effort put into a CPR class than what's been pumped out at the patch updates, no offense.
If anything needs to be saved, it's everything from the Jobs to the writing. 2025 is off to a pretty destructive start.

They can't even refund us when the game is under maintenance!

Chloe

People are still coping about 8.0 job design LOL

As i recall, they talked about Job Identity not JoB Change... And, also expect some old Jobs getting the DRG/BLM/MNK treatment.
Meaning : New animations, new VFX, new SFX and some long overdue QoL...

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Mao predictings jobs becoming more samey as long as Devs keep doubling down on DDR-style boss fights.

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When everyone is expected to do everything equally, no one is allowed to be different.

Please look forward to melee DPS and tanks being ranged jobs, yet melee inexplicably do more DPS than the other DPS roles.

This is what happens when for years the playerbase is like Xeno and worships the ground Yoshi walks on and defends every bad decision the dev team makes.
Defend slop and one day you'll look around and there's nothing but slop.

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This is what happens when for years the playerbase is like Xeno and worships the ground Yoshi walks on and defends every bad decision the dev team makes.
Defend slop and one day you'll look around and there's nothing but slop.

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I'll trust his opinion on raids, because he does it actively as much as I despise the pve systems of 14 being a DDR dance. If the community enjoys it and it has always been a thing. Why would they change it.

On the other hand pvp having more job identity tells you a clear enough tale. Slippidy slop pve job design. They are too lazy to innovate cause it would take time away from ff9 remake and tactics

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Originally Posted by CapaxInfiniti

This is what happens when for years the playerbase is like Xeno and worships the ground Yoshi walks on and defends every bad decision the dev team makes.
Defend slop and one day you'll look around and there's nothing but slop.

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When I finished Dawntrail at launch my main opinion was "this is the kind of game any developer would make if you told them everything they've ever made is literally perfect".

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I'll trust his opinion on raids, because he does it actively as much as I despise the pve systems of 14 being a DDR dance. If the community enjoys it and it has always been a thing. Why would they change it.

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The fact he does it actively to this day is a RED FLAG.

If someone still goes to the same restaurant even as they start making overcooked burnt steak served with ketchup you should not trust his opinion on anything lmao.

Most people with standards have long since quit.

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Man the day Yoshi starts to talk about the new Job Design, half the Players will Rage. I have the feeling that more Jobs will end like Summoners. Braindead with less fun to play.

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What about PLD? i think the 6.3 changes it got made it a better tank then what it was before

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The fact he does it actively to this day is a RED FLAG.

If someone still goes to the same restaurant even as they start making overcooked burnt steak served with ketchup you should not trust his opinion on anything lmao.

Most people with standards have long since quit.

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From your argument it seems like your standards of a debate have dropped worse then a terrible burn. Might wnat to spend less time o nreddit and more time enjoying what you do buddy

8.0 really will be a make-or-break part for this game (I'm sure this was said about Dawntrail too but we're at a all time low now)
For the average non-raider 7.3 is basically the end of the game, novelty of cosmic exploration and occult crescent has worn off already, deep dungeons are niche, we already know SE's strength is in raids so a raid or ultimate being good is expected at this point.
Player numbers dropping

8.0 should be coming early 2027 if you go by past release timelines between patches / it doesnt get delayed, its only mid 2025 now and there's nothing DT currently has or can have to keep most entertained for another year and a half so it's going to need to pull back a LOT of unsubscribed people and if its another Dawntrail experience that will change to leaving the game sooner and never coming back.

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When I finished Dawntrail at launch my main opinion was "this is the kind of game any developer would make if you told them everything they've ever made is literally perfect".

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It did seem like a very unearned victorylap. Down to their boomer voice-modulated house band playing the main theme

The community is way overhyping the idea of 8.0 job re-designs. I want it as much as anyone (it would make me re-sub) but it was basically an off-hand comment "stop asking me about this, we're doing fight design first". And you can see how mild the fight design changes were - a couple more quick random AOEs to dodge, and fewer debuff vomit bodycheck mechanics in savage. Good changes but nothing revolutionary.

This is going to end well..

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The community is way overhyping the idea of 8.0 job re-designs. I want it as much as anyone (it would make me re-sub) but it was basically an off-hand comment "stop asking me about this, we're doing fight design first". And you can see how mild the fight design changes were - a couple more quick random AOEs to dodge, and fewer debuff vomit bodycheck mechanics in savage. Good changes but nothing revolutionary.

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They did it with OC and Fields Operation. Then when it came out were disappointed, but why put so much pressure on a single piece of content when what we need is a restructuring on the whole gameplay, reward system, maps, story instances, etc=

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What about PLD? i think the 6.3 changes it got made it a better tank then what it was before

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It's perfect. If they do anything to my beloved PLD I'll scream

Meh, as much as I want to see an -actual- 'new' job design, I think it's just a disaster control-statement.

Stop yapping false promises & cook up some real sh!t, then I'll start looking.

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What about PLD? i think the 6.3 changes it got made it a better tank then what it was before

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Better for 2m burst meta? Sure. And message to pre 6.3 PLD enjoyer to pound sands.

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The community is way overhyping the idea of 8.0 job re-designs. I want it as much as anyone (it would make me re-sub) but it was basically an off-hand comment "stop asking me about this, we're doing fight design first". And you can see how mild the fight design changes were - a couple more quick random AOEs to dodge, and fewer debuff vomit bodycheck mechanics in savage. Good changes but nothing revolutionary.

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The graphics overhaul, the ARR overhaul, the improved encounter design... All are low effort to the extreme.

the new job design will probably be taking away what make the job unique so they are more copy and paste

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And message to pre 6.3 PLD enjoyer to pound sands.

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It's been 2 years... I miss old PLD...

I do think nu-PLD has the potential to be better than old PLD, but in its current state, I'll take old PLD over what we currently have (sans mitigation, at the very least what we have now is better).

I cant wait for Tanks to get Enhanced Shirk in 8.0 as the lv 108 trait

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I cant wait for Tanks to get Enhanced Shirk in 8.0 as the lv 108 trait

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LOL! I know some people that would love to make a report on that.

Lmfao. History truly repeats

Time is, indeed, a flat circle.

Man, this got necro-ed and I had a brief bit of sadness where I thought Mao was back but it was just a little snapshot of a time now gone. Pain.

Mao never left

*heavy breathing*