So which Alliance Boss do we want for Chaotic next?

So hopefully in 7.3 and 7.5 we get more but which?

The obvious choices Diabolos and Ultima seen as Cloud was final boss of an Alliance series.
But deep down i all know we want Thunder God and Math Boss (differential equations anyone?)

I want uncle Cid aka thunder god.

Construct 7²

If this first Chaotic is anything to go by, next one will be Diabolos. However, I would massively prefer if the spot went to Scathach instead. The twist with the final boss of thge Mhachi ARs never sat well with me, to be honest.

Thundergod Cid.

Do it. Do it nao.

Diabolos. Nier bosses. Any of the Ivalice bosses?

I suppose they could do a lot with Myths of the Realm if they combined them all together.

Personally I'm really excited for the Myths of the Realms raids to be made into chaotic. I really liked the aesthetics and music of those fights and it would be really nice to do a harder version of them

I wonder if the Nier bosses are even on the table, due to licensing. But I'm no legal expert.

So I'm gonna agree with The Thunder God. For extra fun, it's just the original un-nerfed encounter scaled up to max level.

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Originally Posted by BokoToloko

If this first Chaotic is anything to go by, next one will be Diabolos. However, I would massively prefer if the spot went to Scathach instead. The twist with the final boss of thge Mhachi ARs never sat well with me, to be honest.

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I can actually imagine Diabolos having Scathach in the fight anyway so maybe 2 Alliance on the big boy and 1 has to focus her and then they combine very similarly to how they do in DS,

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Originally Posted by MisterNublet

Construct 7²

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I want them do do Cid TG, but literally change nothing except make it as it was when the raid was new (catered to the ilevel they want at level 100). Want people to experience that fight as it was lol.

Given how they introduced Chaotic, unfortunately it is somewhat safe to say next will be Diabolos Hollow, if they continue down the path of only making chaotic alliance raids for the final bosses of the entire raid series.

However if they do actually decide to not only do the final raid bosses, then I would pick every single Ivalice raid boss if I could have all of them.

Construct 7 going to make you solve a quadratic equation.
Yiazmat not losing his "The One Dragon" buff so he is literally a damage sponge, also magnets.
T.G Cid doing T.G Cid stuff but this time everyone has to contribute, like needing all 24 players inside the 6 Duskblade circles.

Time to inhale the copium that they won't just do the final bosses of entire alliance raid series only to give the chaotic treatment to.

I've got an stellar idea:

Thunder God Cid and Construct 7 team up.

"I call up to the maths and tremble as the algebra of a thousand variables blinds mine enemies and makes their brains ponder"

Make Thunder God Cid Great Again

He was cut down in his prime!

While I do hope we get TC Cid at some point (I never got to experience it before he was nerfed, as I started in ShB), I have a feeling we'll get Diabolos next OR they'll do the other CT raid bosses - in the original preview announcement for the Chaotic Alliance Raid genre, I remember they showed Syrcus Tower (idr the other one but I think it was one of the lvl 60 raids? I can't find the image rn). So I wonder if they're gonna try to do all of the final bosses of each raid.

Just give us Ozma 3.0

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Originally Posted by AstreaLove

Just give us Ozma 3.0

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Considering the lead battle content designer is nicknamed Mister Ozma, this is probably the most realistic guess for Shadow of Mhach.

I hope they end up doing more bosses rather than just the final bosses of each set of raids. They're going to run out of Chaotic material really fast, and also Thunder God Cid would just be really fun in general.

Ozma but the version from BA

I would have said Ozma if it wasn't for the fact they already made a large-scale raid with Ozma called BA.

Isn't a more important question if they will ever repeat this "experiment"? Like to do it again, one would assume they'd have to think the experiment was a success.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

Isn't a more important question if they will ever repeat this "experiment"? Like to do it again, one would assume they'd have to think the experiment was a success.

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If the completion percentage is high enough(and it likely will be because of the rewards), they will consider it a success despite the EN and JP forums both loudly asking "Who the fuck is this for?"

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Originally Posted by Daralii

If the completion percentage is high enough(and it likely will be because of the rewards), they will consider it a success despite the EN and JP forums both loudly asking "Who the fuck is this for?"

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Sure, but expect them to ignore the players who don't engage in this sort of content. It's more the complaints within the raiding community that I would expect to have some impact.

None. Unreal Alliance Raids instead.

Chaotic is a fun fight, but not what we need. Unreal Alliance Raids would be more accessible and more widely available to provide challenge to a greater variety of players.

I would say Deathgaze but they already gave Death/Aero (and a gaze) to CoD.

Maybe Thaliak instead. First major difference: the opening cleaves that hit absolutely no one...are now a DUAL MECHANIC *gasp*

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

None. Unreal Alliance Raids instead.

Chaotic is a fun fight, but not what we need. Unreal Alliance Raids would be more accessible and more widely available to provide challenge to a greater variety of players.

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MMM I would enjoy a difficulty level similar to Castrum Lacus Litore, maybe a bit more punishing but something that could be queued via DF instead of PF. That would be fun, but I did enjoy Chaotic.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

None. Unreal Alliance Raids instead.

Chaotic is a fun fight, but not what we need. Unreal Alliance Raids would be more accessible and more widely available to provide challenge to a greater variety of players.

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This is what I was hoping for when they first announced chaotic. That we would have gotten a harder version of the alliance raid "Jeuno: The First Walk".

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Originally Posted by Xerosleep

So hopefully in 7.3 and 7.5 we get more but which?

The obvious choices Diabolos and Ultima seen as Cloud was final boss of an Alliance series.
But deep down i all know we want Thunder God and Math Boss (differential equations anyone?)

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diabolos with some shared meanics from armament and scathac

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MMM I would enjoy a difficulty level similar to Castrum Lacus Litore, maybe a bit more punishing but something that could be queued via DF instead of PF. That would be fun, but I did enjoy Chaotic.

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Ironically there were people that were using Raid Finder on Aether to try out Chaotic that first week. I haven't looked in a while to see if that's still happening. I would imagine the alliance raid moniker confused some into thinking it was content NA would do normally through random matching and not the type of content we usually do through Party Finder.

CLL was fun. Since it would be optional, they could up the difficulty. But even an Unreal Crystal Tower would be interesting because we could see and have to deal with all the mechanics we used to do when it was current but have been forgotten now, or never experienced by some. Like the reason people are in the habit of pulling the bone dragon far out.

Me personally? None.
I tried it and didn't really enjoy the content, so I don't really care if they make a new Chaotic anytime in the future. I'd rather like it if, instead, they'd put their resources into improving on other content to make it better(like maybe finally change the dungeon formula or rework the hunt) and put their time in writing a better story. /shrug

Would really like that it is not restricted to raid 24 and they gave me a Gilgamesh Chaotic >.>

Dont think well get Chaotic every odd patch, Variant/Criterion will prolly take its place when that drops, very likely just a 1 time deal, maybe 1 each expansion if it gets a good enough response to keep going with it. As for which Id like to see definitely anything Ivalice.

Clear rates are pretty good for Chaotic in JP, more than twice NA/EU as usual. Likely we'll get another at some point and Mr. Ozma can simply pick someone else on his team to do the next just like with Ultimates. Also it seems to follow ultimate rules with permanent ilevel sync at 735 just like with FRU so it can stay relevant forever, so there is only benefits to doing more.

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Originally Posted by CalvinDescoles

Would really like that it is not restricted to raid 24 and they gave me a Gilgamesh Chaotic >.>

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That wouldn't be Chaotic that literally would be Gilgamesh Extreme

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Originally Posted by Xerosleep

That wouldn't be Chaotic that literally would be Gilgamesh Extreme

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YES AND WE WOULD LIKE IT. AND WE WOULD ASK MORE !

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Originally Posted by Hanayumi

Dont think well get Chaotic every odd patch, Variant/Criterion will prolly take its place when that drops, very likely just a 1 time deal, maybe 1 each expansion if it gets a good enough response to keep going with it. As for which Id like to see definitely anything Ivalice.

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I feel that would be a missed opportunity for SE seen as Chaotic and Criterion are the very opposite from a raid perspective, ie big scale vs small. Plus I think where Chaotic added more left hand side armour, Criterion could add the equivalent accessories and Savage Criterion (which needs changing or just removing) can keep the Exquisite tome weapon.

Considering the Story in EW, isn't it time for a real Xande fight? Man got a raw deal in Sycus Tower by the sounds of it.

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Originally Posted by Asako

Considering the Story in EW, isn't it time for a real Xande fight? Man got a raw deal in Sycus Tower by the sounds of it.

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Considering how much Amon/Fandaniel deified the original Xande, it's hard to take him at his word or know how accurate the recreation was. Even though he was powerful in his home game and its remakes/remasters, he was mostly a fake final boss before the World of Darkness twist.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

If the completion percentage is high enough(and it likely will be because of the rewards), they will consider it a success despite the EN and JP forums both loudly asking "Who the fuck is this for?"

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It's almost like the forums aren't representative of the community in any way shape or form.