Why do casual players seem entitled to cosmetic items added in game?

So chaotic came out, and I've seen multiple posters on the forums making statements along the line of

"The hairstyle should not have been added in chaotic when SE knows lots of casual players will want it"

Why do some people feel entitled to cosmetic items such as this? I genuinely don't get it. It's obviously there either: as a reward to players doing difficult content, or as a means to encourage people to step out of their comfort zone.
Even so, it's purchasable on the market board, so why is it such a problem?

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

So chaotic came out, and I've seen multiple posters on the forums making statements along the line of

"The hairstyle should not have been added in chaotic when SE knows lots of casual players will want it"

Why do some people feel entitled to cosmetic items such as this? I genuinely don't get it. It's obviously there either: as a reward to players doing difficult content, or as a means to encourage people to step out of their comfort zone.
Even so, it's purchasable on the market board, so why is it such a problem?

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The issue isn't entitlement. It's more acknowledging a contributing factor of the issue on threads such as you yourself have made.

SE > Adds cosmetic item to game, locked behind savage.

Some raiders > It's not so much fun, why are there so many damn casuals that can barely handle AoEs in my savage parties?!?

Someone acknowledging the issue > This is what happens when you put cosmetic items behind savage. It will attract casual players into high-end content, that will suddenly want to do it for the reward, even if they aren't prepared.

Someone not actually reading the comments > CASUALS ARE SO ENTITLED THEY WANT THE REWARD FOR NO EFFORT.

There's several issues going on here, and not really correlated to entitlement. Most of the casuals that want this cosmetic are already trying to do the content. If people are proposing ideas then it is only to combat SEs fairly bad design.

It's the same as the Axolotl, people just want "cute" things without having to work for it. I do agree that people should be challenged in order to obtain things that they want. I think them putting hair styles and such behind the raid is a good thing as it keeps the content relevant either for people who work for it themselves or for people who farm it to make gil.

Hairstyles aren't really cosmetics, they're one of the most fundamental aspects of character appearance. It's why the game has 4 faces but like 50 hairstyles, hair is incredibly important for how a video game character looks. They shouldn't be locked behind savage or ultimate, and haven't been until now.

Also casual players don't have 50 million gil, so it being on the market board is irrelevant. It doesn't seem likely that it's going to be 100k any time soon.

I mean casual players seem largely fine with mounts and shiny weapons and gear being locked behind hard content. Hairstyles are just a bit different because it's baseline character customization and honestly I agree with them even as a hardcore raider. To me it feels like locking an eyebrow shape or eye colour behind raid content and it just doesn't feel like something that should be a 'prestige' or flex item.

For most, it's not about getting things for free, it's more about giving the right rewards for the right content, which XIV has not been very good with lately. Things like haircut, orchestion rolls or TT cards are relatively appealing to everyone, so they should be rewards you get on the lowest denomitor. easy enough content, even if it takes a while to get (like with treasure maps, where the rng is bad).

As much as it would make no sense to put a BiS equipment behind a event quest, it makes very little sense to put an haircut behind what's basically a 24 man savage. Especially a contest haircut.

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Originally Posted by St0rmy

It's the same as the Axolotl, people just want "cute" things without having to work for it. I do agree that people should be challenged in order to obtain things that they want. I think them putting hair styles and such behind the raid is a good thing as it keeps the content relevant either for people who work for it themselves or for people who farm it to make gil.

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mean... i'm a raider, yet i absolutely hate doing this, the fight is fun and i appreciate challenges and so should others.
but to me... PF is litterally harder than just doing the fight... waiting waiting waiting waiting... for 3 pulls... then wait wait wait (people on Light DC have 0 patience)

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

For most, it's not about getting things for free, it's more about giving the right rewards for the right content, which XIV has not been very good with lately. Things like haircut, orchestion rolls or TT cards are relatively appealing to everyone, so they should be rewards you get on the lowest denomitor. easy enough content, event if it takes a while to get (like with treasure maps, where the rng is bad).

As much as it would make no sense to put a BiS equipment behind a event quest, it makes very little sense to put an haircut behind what's basically a 24 man savage. Especially a contest haircut.

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Should've seen some of the controversies that happened back in HW with the OG Diadem Emergency Mission when it had a small chance to drop i280 Coven weapons, which had randomized stats, the outcry of some people out of fear it could invalidate their hard earned weapon through Lux or Alexandrian Weapons, cuz all you had to do was kill a dinosaur and get lucky 'lul'.

Personally, I think it's fine but the shelf life of the content has to actually be there to justify essentially putting core character features/cosmetics behind it, and historically they have never nailed down the shelf life of harder, large scale content.

Imagine caring if someone can easily get the hair you like to use.

I mean, ppl just get's pissed when said casuals enter their high end content to get it, so seems like a lose lose scenario

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Should've seen some of the controversies that happened back in HW with the OG Diadem Emergency Mission when it had a small chance to drop i280 Coven weapons, which had randomized stats, the outcry of some people out of fear it could invalidate their hard earned weapon through Lux or Alexandrian Weapons, cuz all you had to do was kill a dinosaur and get lucky 'lul'..

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Yeah, there is always some loud idiots that throw a tantrum, like with the axolot mount. What annoys me with those is how the entirety of the casual population get associated with those, when 99% is fine with High lvl content having their own rewards.

But there is always, ALWAYS someone drowning in its own ego to say "filthy casuals entitled to recieve everything for free" as soon as there is a complain. Even when the complaint is done by 10 loud people, fairly justified or shared by a good chunk of the raider community, as it is here. I guess taking a step back would destroy their mental construction where casual players are assisted and they are the true gamers. (Maybe you'll notice what I did)

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Personally, I think it's fine but the shelf life of the content has to actually be there to justify essentially putting core character features/cosmetics behind it, and historically they have never nailed down the shelf life of harder, large scale content.

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I include things like Eureka bozja and deep dungeons in the "easy enough" content. Extremes and Masked carnivale are things I wouldn't include but I know there are argument to put them there. At worst, extreme end being unsyncable.

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

Yeah, there is always some loud idiots that throw a tantrum, like with the axolot mount. What annoys me with those is how the entirety of the casual population get associated with those, when 99% is fine with High lvl content having their own rewards.

But there is always, ALWAYS someone that drowning in his own ego there to say "filthy casuals entitled to everything" as long as there is a complain even when the complaint is done by 10 loud people or is fairly justified or shared by a good chunk of the raider community, as it is here.

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I was under the impression the axolotl thing was a meme, and that there were far more people upset that axolotl just thematically didn't Anabaseios/Pandaemonium than there were people actually upset it had a cute mount tied to it lol.

It's twofold anyway.. Who are some people to dictate where rewards should be delegated... In the same vein, Who are some people to dictate who should or shouldn't be trying a 24-man piece of content. You can't lord over people and try to dictate what content they do, or in what process (unless otherwise dictated by the game), and then also complain when those whom you attempt to lord over actually present reasons why it is occurring, in addition to solutions. It's just asking for people to be apathetic to that plight in future.

Edit : Like, at some point people are just going to turn around with "Well you asked for it, you got exactly that", instead of "Here's where the issue stems from, and here's what could maybe be done about it in future"

People have been clamouring for more long hairstyles and it being one of the few that has released in awhile is locked behind content they don't feel as though they can do, and are intimidated to even try

It's purchaseable, sure, but likely for millions of gil that your average player won't have access to

I don't think wanting a basic character customization item is an entitlement. As others said the reward doesn't fit the type of content. Do think hardcore raiders even care about the hairstyle? I doubt it, I bet most hardcore raiders who get the hairstyle will put it up on the MB to make an easy 50 to 100 mil of gil. I highly doubt you see a Mr Happy, a Xeno, or Arthars type of player using this hairstyle. Another issue is that even buying it on the MB isn't easy bc most players don't have 50+ mil of gil lying around. Most ppl who do are mostly crafters. Another issue about locking a hairstyle behind a savage level of content is forcing ppl who may not even want to do this content to do it and that leads to PFs being a complete nightmare bc you have ppl who never did hard content before jumping into pf parties hoping to be "carried" so they can get the hairstyle. The last thing I have an issue with is the number of rewards this 24-man savage has...the raid has 2 mounts, 730i gear, a minion, and the hairstyle. I don't know about anyone else but I think the mounts and gear are far enough for this type of content and the rewards hardcore raiders care about.

Overall no I don't think anyone is entitled. I think locking a hairstyle behind the savage or ultimate level of content is dumb and asking for trouble. Keep rewards for these types of content as it(glowy weapons, gear and mounts) and add hairstyles to more approachable content like the PVP battle pass, maps, ect.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

As others said the reward doesn't fit the type of content.

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What does that even mean?

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Do think hardcore raiders even care about the hairstyle? I doubt it, I bet most hardcore raiders who get the hairstyle will put it up on the MB to make an easy 50 to 100 mil of gil.

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HUGE assumption. Pretty much everyone who plays the game cares about how their character looks. Just because you paint with broad strokes and assume everyone thinks like the 3 streamers you listed does not make it so.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Another issue about locking a hairstyle behind a savage level of content is forcing ppl who may not even want to do this content to do it and that leads to PFs being a complete nightmare bc you have ppl who never did hard content before jumping into pf parties hoping to be "carried" so they can get the hairstyle.

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There's lots of items in this game that I want but chose not to engage with the content for. I love the PVP glamours but I hate the content. You don't see tons of people complaining that it should be available for everyone, people just accept it as such. PVP is a perfect example because the Cloud hair exists.

I'll start off by saying that it's neat they added it to the chaotic raid and that if people want it that bad they can grind for it, either by earning gil or doing the content.

However, it makes sense people would be upset. It seems like an odd choice to make after 8 years of creating a clear divide between what rewards you can expect from casual and hardcore content. It would be akin to putting the best gear in getting to rank 20 of island sanctuary (which I would also find hilarious, not gonna lie.) Obviously it's meant to draw more people to trying more difficult content, and hopefully it's succeeded in that.

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

So chaotic came out, and I've seen multiple posters on the forums making statements along the line of

"The hairstyle should not have been added in chaotic when SE knows lots of casual players will want it"

Why do some people feel entitled to cosmetic items such as this? I genuinely don't get it. It's obviously there either: as a reward to players doing difficult content, or as a means to encourage people to step out of their comfort zone.
Even so, it's purchasable on the market board, so why is it such a problem?

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I wouldn't call it entitlement. More frustration that there is so little casual content offering anything at all, and the next "event" I believe is a reskinned, uninspiring minion.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

I wouldn't call it entitlement. More frustration that there is so little casual content offering anything at all, and the next "event" I believe is a reskinned, uninspiring minion.

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Being annoyed at the lack of content on the casual side is one thing (and a very valid complaint) but it doesn’t really have anything to do with OP’s point because OP is discussing the fact that some people who dont do high end content seem to want directive authority on what rewards are allowed to be high end content rewards

You can hate the idea that since 7.0 launched 4 savage floors, 1 extreme, 1 ultimate and 1 CAR have released compared to one dungeon and one alliance raid but it doesn’t mean locking desirable rewards behind a new and experimental content type isn’t a good decision

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

What does that even mean?



HUGE assumption. Pretty much everyone who plays the game cares about how their character looks. Just because you paint with broad strokes and assume everyone thinks like the 3 streamers you listed does not make it so.



There's lots of items in this game that I wanted but chose not to engage with the content for. I love the PVP glamours but I hate the content. You don't see tons of people complaining that it should be available for everyone, people just accept it as such. PVP is a perfect example because the Cloud hair exists.

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1) It means that hairstyles an character customization shouldn't be locked behind content that the minor of the player base interacts with. In the past this type of content never had hairstyles in them. They usually only have glam gear, glowly weapons, and mounts.

2) Plz...I have never seen a hardcore raider that cares that deeply about what their character looks like. Im sure there are some and that's why I said most, not all hardcore raiders. Either way, they most likely wouldn't even be that upset if a hairstyle were more available to everyone.

3) We not talking about some glamour items or mounts here. Hairstyles are character customization. Hair is the only thing you can change in this game since the choices in the character customize are VERY limited. Im fine with glamour items being locked behind content that ppl may not like to do. I also want things that are locked behind content I don't want to touch and guess what Im not complaining about that bc they are weapons and gear. Also most of the other content in this game has a somewhat long life to it but these new things SE has come up with like this 24-man savage and Crit dun don't...I bet you that in 6 months this fight be dead and rarely run, making the hairstyle even harder to get than it is now.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

1) It means that hairstyles an character customization shouldn't be locked behind content that the minor of the player base interacts with. In the past this type of content never had hairstyles in them. They usually only have glam gear, glowly weapons, and mounts.

2) Plz...I have never seen a hardcore raider that cares that deeply about what their character looks like. Im sure there are some and that's why I said most, not all hardcore raiders. Either way, they most likely wouldn't even be that upset if a hairstyle were more available to everyone.

3) We not talking about some glamour items or mounts here. Hairstyles are character customization. Hair is the only thing you can change in this game since the choices in the character customize are VERY limited. Im fine with glamour items being locked behind content that ppl may not like to do. I also want things that are locked behind content I don't want to touch and guess what Im not complaining about that bc they are weapons and gear. Also most of the other content in this game has a somewhat long life to it but these new things SE has come up with like this 24-man savage and Crit dun don't...I bet you that in 6 months this fight be dead and rarely run, making the hairstyle even harder to get than it is now.

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So your entire argument basically amounts to “I feel like casual players care more about their characters appearance than high end players” with literally zero evidence to support it then declaring that based on that fundamental glam items should be accessible to casuals (even though you can just buy the hairstyle)

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Being annoyed at the lack of content on the casual side is one thing (and a very valid complaint) but it doesn’t really have anything to do with OP’s point because OP is discussing the fact that some people who dont do high end content seem to want directive authority on what rewards are allowed to be high end content rewards

You can hate the idea that since 7.0 launched 4 savage floors, 1 extreme, 1 ultimate and 1 CAR have released compared to one dungeon and one alliance raid but it doesn’t mean locking desirable rewards behind a new and experimental content type isn’t a good decision

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Fair. But I'd suggest it does mean it is guaranteed to be a massively unpopular decision, and whether that is right or wrong is sort of irrelevant when a large chunk of the player base is already spitting nails.

Like objectively I can think of no way of determining whether a hairstyle locked behind chaotic or (another effing pointless) framing kit locked behind rank 10 series PvP is "correct."

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Originally Posted by Gullis

I mean, ppl just get's pissed when said casuals enter their high end content to get it, so seems like a lose lose scenario

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I think we're missing a vital piece of the puzzle here.

People get pissed when "casuals" enter high-end content [without learning their role, job or the content first].

If cosmetic items encourage someone to take the leap into high-end content, I think that's great. But please do yourself and everyone else a favour and spend a little bit of time preparing first. People shouldn't just jump in and either expect the content to fall over on its own or for other people to carry them.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

So your entire argument basically amounts to “I feel like casual players care more about their characters appearance than high end players” with literally zero evidence to support it then declaring that based on that fundamental glam items should be accessible to casuals (even though you can just buy the hairstyle)

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No that's not my entire argument. Its one of the reasons. I listed others if you actually care to read them. I agreed with you about PCT on the PCT threads but I don't agree with you on this. Its the fact they added a hairstyle to a type of content that has been proven will die after the hardcore raider are done with it. We saw it with Crit duns and we see it happen again with this content. Also yes you can buy it but tell me how many casual players you know have 50 to 100 mil gil just sitting around? That price isn't going to go down either since farming the hairstyle isn't easy(46 clears I believe Mr happy said in his video today about this). As I said before it will get even harder to get in few months when ppl get bored of the fight and move on to the next shiny new fight. Like I said one another reply to you today, my ONLY issue is the hairstyle and that it. The fight already have 2 MOUNTS, a minion and 730i glam gear. If it also needed the hairstyle to get ppl to clear the fight then maybe just maybe the devs should used the time design this fight for something ease that the midcore players could also enjoy.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

No that's not my entire argument. Its one of the reasons. I listed others if you actually care to read them. I agreed with you about PCT on the PCT threads but I don't agree with you on this. Its the fact they added a hairstyle to a type of content that has been proven will die after the hardcore raider are done with it. We saw it with Crit duns and we see it happen again with this content. Also yes you can buy it but tell me how many casual players you know have 50 to 100 mil gil just sitting around? That price isn't going to go down either since farming the hairstyle isn't easy(46 clears I believe Mr happy said in his video today about this). As I said before it will get even harder to get in few months when ppl get bored of the fight and move on to the next shiny new fight. Like I said one another reply to you today, my ONLY issue is the hairstyle and that it. The fight already have 2 MOUNTS, a minion and 730i glam gear. If it also needed the hairstyle to get ppl to clear the fight then maybe just maybe the devs should used the time design this fight for something ease that the midcore players could also enjoy.

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Tbh I don’t really care if you agreed with me on a different thread that is really meaningless to an unrelated point

Okay so the other part of your point is “content will die because there isn’t enough incentive to run it so the solution is to give it even less rewards to ensure it’ll die even faster”. Like I’m not sure how to explain that if you are worried about content dying then ripping even more rewards out of it is exactly what you shouldn’t be doing as most people who cleared criterion agree it’s really good content it just does because it has no rewards. An expensive hairstyle and mounts is the bare minimum of what rewards should be in the content. That’s about the same rewards as DRN of all content

And where is this idea coming from that casual players are unlikely to have money lying around, if anything they should have more money than hardcore players because being a casual is free, like what are you even spending money on as a casual

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

For most, it's not about getting things for free, it's more about giving the right rewards for the right content, which XIV has not been very good with lately. Things like haircut, orchestion rolls or TT cards are relatively appealing to everyone, so they should be rewards you get on the lowest denomitor. easy enough content, even if it takes a while to get (like with treasure maps, where the rng is bad).

As much as it would make no sense to put a BiS equipment behind a event quest, it makes very little sense to put an haircut behind what's basically a 24 man savage. Especially a contest haircut.

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Ehh. I disagree. Part of the problem with content longevity is the lackluster rewards to incentivize people. Putting all the highly desired stuff in "lowest denominator" content essentially wastes it as a inventive tool. Unless you make it heavily RNG based, which people also complain about.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Tbh I don’t really care if you agreed with me on a different thread that is really meaningless to an unrelated point

Okay so the other part of your point is “content will die because there isn’t enough incentive to run it so the solution is to give it even less rewards to ensure it’ll die even faster”. Like I’m not sure how to explain that if you are worried about content dying then ripping even more rewards out of it is exactly what you shouldn’t be doing as most people who cleared criterion agree it’s really good content it just does because it has no rewards. An expensive hairstyle and mounts is the bare minimum of what rewards should be in the content. That’s about the same rewards as DRN of all content

And where is this idea coming from that casual players are unlikely to have money lying around, if anything they should have more money than hardcore players because being a casual is free, like what are you even spending money on as a casual

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Where the hell are they getting the money from? Most ppl I know are not making mils and mils of gil a month in this game unless they are really into crafting. AGAIN Im not saying the fight shouldn't have rewards. Im saying one of the rewards shouldn't be a damn hairstyle. How is that so hard to understand???? Either we never going to see eye to eye on this so I won't be replying to you on this topic anymore. The fact this hairstyle is in thing savage-level fight is dumb and its not going to save the fight either. This one hairstyle isn't going to keep this fight popular for months and months so I don't think removing will change anything. Either enjoy the nightmare that is PF for this dumbass content. Enjoy it being died in 6 months aswell.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Where the hell are they getting the money from? Most ppl I know are not making mils and mils of gil a month in this game unless they are really into crafting.

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Guess they better start leveling or somethin'.

At least its both obtainable in-game (as opposed to Online Store) and tradeable/marketable (I think?).

I would've paid a lot of gil if I could to buy the Island hairstyles (one of which was seen in-game as early as HW's relic series).

Unfortunately those were not tradeable and market prohibited, alas.

It might help if rewards somehow matched the theme of the content? Like a CoD mount from a CoD raid makes sense. Does the hairstyle have any connection to the raid? Or is it like the PvP gear coffer this season that has absolutely nothing to do with PvP unless you happen to like fighting dressed as a sulking teenager from the 90s with abysmal fashion sense.

Wait so the option is given to buy it if you don’t want do the content and options are given for casuals to make money and neither option is considered sufficient

What do people even do with Gil in this game if they don’t do any high end content but also don’t want pay for glam

Like spend a few hours in eureka and you have millions, you can make millions from crafting, hell you can make thousands every day for running AIN then greeding on everything and selling the seal products. Like what else do you want

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Wait so the option is given to buy it if you don’t want do the content and options are given for casuals to make money and neither option is considered sufficient

What do people even do with Gil in this game if they don’t do any high end content but also don’t want pay for glam

Like spend a few hours in eureka and you have millions, you can make millions from crafting, hell you can make thousands every day for running AIN then greeding on everything and selling the seal products. Like what else do you want

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You have any idea of the current price of lap dances, honey?

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Where the hell are they getting the money from?

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Submarines are ~500k per day for basically just logging in.

Submarines, eureka, crafting, AIN, GC seals, Bozja

This game has always had a problem of more Gil is earned than is generally spent

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

Submarines are ~500k per day for basically just logging in.

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Do you realize that is just FC? You know everyone doesn't have access to subs, right? Only FCs with houses can use subs.

You all can list ways to make gil till you are blue in your faces...that doesn't change the fact that A) the hair is always going to expenses (50mil to 100mil) and B) After a few months, you are lucky you find one or two of these on the MB since this content will die off. No one is going to farm this fight 46 times just to get hair to sell on the MB for ppl to buy. They farm it till they got all they want, sell the left over stuff and can it a day. A hairstyle isn't going to keep the damn fight alive forever...We saw it happen with crit duns...It will happen again...

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

You all can list ways to make gil till you are blue in your faces...that doesn't change the fact that A) the hair is always going to expenses (50mil to 100mil) and B) After a few months, you are lucky you find one or two of these on the MB since this content will die off. No one is going to farm this fight 46 times just to get hair to sell on the MB for ppl to buy. They farm it till they got all they want, sell the left over stuff and can it a day. A hairstyle isn't going to keep the damn fight alive forever...We saw it happen with crit duns...It will happen again...

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Then just wait a year or two for them to add it to the moogle tomestone thing like they did with the bozja hair.

MrJPtheAssassin is the perfect example of entitlement I'm talking about.

Content is too hard.
Making Gil is too hard.

Who are these people with all this gil
"Oh just do x"
"Well if you only play 1 hour a week"

It's off topic, but also not.
I took two weeks off work (chance) when DT arrived. Played XIV all day most days. My crafters still aren't levelled. I completely missed out on savage being too late. I can't afford crafted gear. (I spend my gil on nothing, not glam, not minions, not mounts) I don't every seem to have a job geared when there is an opportunity to try high end with people I meet.(Week 1 gear is not a fun way to try high end for the first time)

Back when DT came out I had 12,000,000 gil except for about 6 weeks unsub. I've been playing all evening everyday for the last 3 years. I bought a house, and an FC estate during Endwalker. I don't spend Gil on glam or mounts or anything. Now and then I'm generous and I spent more on friends than myself. I might get a barding or something for them for 200,000 which to me is hugely expensive. But that's like once a month.

Hardly anything ever sells on mb. I put it up, I come back after the next dungeon and it's already been undercut. I've given up. Now I put stuff up. I might of might not check it the next day. And mostly I just end up having to npc sell it for 2/3gil.

None of the things in game that I enjoy doing, rouls, get you any gil. None the things I do game are any good for gearing for high end either. (Not until the content is over) Crafting is impossible, it takes ages to experiment with recipes that dint break even just for levelling. It's just F hopelessly tedious and overcomplicated.
I know exactly what's going on, add-ons and mods. If your using these you get an exponential advantage.
Heck even if I have something that's valuable I don't realise probably. I know there is an add-on that cheats even with this and gives you the mb price i of every.drop. That annoyed me. In maps I used to think people were looking stuff up. Then I find out their game was telling them and mine isn't. So I get a bit of stuff out of maps, but then my inventory is full, I have to start passing, and when I get back it's mostly worthless junk that I've got. Inventory management is frankly is anti-fun. So maps once I've played them once I dint bother again. No challenge, and you don't get a lot of gil, maybe 100,000 on a good run. That's about 150 teleports.

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Originally Posted by Gurgeh

Who are these people with all this gil
"Oh just do x"
"Well if you only play 1 hour a week"

It's off topic, but also not.
I took two weeks off work (chance) when DT arrived. Played XIV all day most days. My crafters still aren't levelled. I completely missed out on savage being too late. I can't afford crafted gear. (I spend my gil on nothing, not glam, not minions, not mounts) I don't every seem to have a job geared when there is an opportunity to try high end with people I meet.(Week 1 gear is not a fun way to try high end for the first time)

Back when DT came out I had 12,000,000 gil except for about 6 weeks unsub. I've been playing all evening everyday for the last 3 years. I bought a house, and an FC estate during Endwalker. I don't spend Gil on glam or mounts or anything. Now and then I'm generous and I spent more on friends than myself. I might get a barding or something for them for 200,000 which to me is hugely expensive. But that's like once a month.

Hardly anything ever sells on mb. I put it up, I come back after the next dungeon and it's already been undercut. I've given up. Now I put stuff up. I might of might not check it the next day. And mostly I just end up having to npc sell it for 2/3gil.

None of the things in game that I enjoy doing, rouls, get you any gil. None the things I do game are any good for gearing for high end either. (Not until the content is over) Crafting is impossible, it takes ages to experiment with recipes that dint break even just for levelling. It's just F hopelessly tedious and overcomplicated.
I know exactly what's going on, add-ons and mods. If your using these you get an exponential advantage.
Heck even if I have something that's valuable I don't realise probably. I know there is an add-on that cheats even with this and gives you the mb price i of every.drop. That annoyed me. In maps I used to think people were looking stuff up. Then I find out their game was telling them and mine isn't. So I get a bit of stuff out of maps, but then my inventory is full, I have to start passing, and when I get back it's mostly worthless junk that I've got. Inventory management is frankly is anti-fun. So maps once I've played them once I dint bother again. No challenge, and you don't get a lot of gil, maybe 100,000 on a good run. That's about 150 teleports.

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If you don't know how to craft, refuse to sort your inventory, don't want to grind and don't want to do the actual raid, then I dunno guess you're just out of options.

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

MrJPtheAssassin is the perfect example of entitlement I'm talking about.

Content is too hard.
Making Gil is too hard.

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Then you are the textbook example of a toxic hardcore raider who only cares about your enjoyment and have little to no care for the other types of players of this game.

For your info, Im not a casual player for 14. I have cleared every savage since SB(I haven't cleared M4S but that bc I lost my static and can't find a new one yet), and I have two ultimates cleared. Im going to try this fight out but from what I hear this fight is a nightmare bc it's 24 men and getting 24 ppl to do mechs right is harder than most ultmates IMO. The biggest difference me between and some yall toxic hardcore players is I actually care about other ppl enjoyment of the game. Sue me to think its effing dumb to put a hairstyle in a savage-level raid that requires 3x the ppl and require those ppl to do mech nearly perfectly. I think yall be ok with the 2 mounts, all the gear and the minion. Yall don't need a hairstyle that has nothing to do with raid anyway as well.

I also add that I have over 50mil gil but Im sure as hell not going to spend it on an overpriced hairstyle that should be something else other than this savage content that will fail just like crit duns did.