Most OP jobs for CC in your opinion

This is for CC, not FL. I play a variety of jobs, not all of them, but in my experience these are some of the top jobs in terms of sheer power and ability to influence the outcome of a match:


Definitely OP:
1. AST/RDM


Powerful, but a notch below:
2. WAR/GNB/PLD

Very solid:
3. WHM/DRG/PCT/NIN

4. Everyone else.

And that may be it, in my opinion. What are your takes?

Hard to say yet. I have more griefs about underperforming or badly designed jobs. AST is definitely a problem to me, RDM I don't know. I see them everywhere so they have to be good. It's mostly AST that feels insanely oppressive in all directions, and AST (or even WhM) are the reason tanks are that good right now. If you remove that pocket healing tanks will start dying a little more like they used to.

I just know warrior can be deleted. Imagine doing a burst, losing 30% of your HP for pressing the buttons, then trying to selfheal, but your stun comes 3 years too late cause of animation delay, and you can't aoe heal. You are just a sitting duck then. And you can remove Limit Break from your hotbar, it is like a voluntary euthanasia sign.

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Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

I just know warrior can be deleted. Imagine doing a burst, losing 30% of your HP for pressing the buttons, then trying to selfheal, but your stun comes 3 years too late cause of animation delay, and you can't aoe heal. You are just a sitting duck then. And you can remove Limit Break from your hotbar, it is like a voluntary euthanasia sign.

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Looking at the K/D/A after matches, WAR deaths have rocketed to the point I fear they are an endangered species. (Edit, this is mostly based on FL; seems a little more resilient in CC.)

Warrior went from "too angry to die" to "angry because you die too much".

If you're talking specifically about ranked, then yep anything that brings in it's own damage or heals to "parse" well is going to succeed. Dragoon is great for this since a lot of people in lower ranks seem to forget about you if you run around a corner.

Common gameplan that shot me through Plat and into Diamond:
1) High Jump in and Guard, soaking enemy CC and burst
2) Elusive Jump out, throw my burst while the enemy is still tunnel visioning me
3) At low health/mana and back out of the fight for a ground pot. Most people seem to forget about me at this point.
4) Re-send burst, rinse and repeat

Usually I'm fine going in with 5k mana as long as I have Guard/Horrid Roar. But yeah, I followed that game plan to the letter on Red Sands/C9/Clocktown and it works 80% of the time. It only fails if my team gets giga cleaved on the point while 2 people do chase me and don't forget about me.

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Originally Posted by Loggos

Warrior went from "too angry to die" to "angry because you die too much".

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Hahaha... that's about it. I've been doing better now I've abandoned the idea of having a frontline burst and instead jump in and out like a fragile melee. Such a shame because the revised kit is a lot more fun than 7.0.

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Originally Posted by gidsonBrand

If you're talking specifically about ranked, then yep anything that brings in it's own damage or heals to "parse" well is going to succeed. Dragoon is great for this since a lot of people in lower ranks seem to forget about you if you run around a corner.

Common gameplan that shot me through Plat and into Diamond:
1) High Jump in and Guard, soaking enemy CC and burst
2) Elusive Jump out, throw my burst while the enemy is still tunnel visioning me
3) At low health/mana and back out of the fight for a ground pot. Most people seem to forget about me at this point.
4) Re-send burst, rinse and repeat

Usually I'm fine going in with 5k mana as long as I have Guard/Horrid Roar. But yeah, I followed that game plan to the letter on Red Sands/C9/Clocktown and it works 80% of the time. It only fails if my team gets giga cleaved on the point while 2 people do chase me and don't forget about me.

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No, you didn't get teamed with wintraders. Simply put.

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No, you didn't get teamed with wintraders. Simply put.

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i know this comes as a shock to a lot of you guys on the forums, but if you improve at the game, you win more! you should try it instead of blaming things that aren't real.

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No, you didn't get teamed with wintraders. Simply put.

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Nah I played 100 games and learned.

Just AST tbh. RDM kinda

I feel Nin is a bit overtuned right now. The damage it gained compared to what it used to have is wild, and the LB on 90s is way too good. It's not broken like AST, but some things like the LB notably feel a bit much.

The double stun plus assasinate ignoring guard is also a tad over the top for my taste. Assasinate worked fine when you had to take guard into account and wait for the right timing.

One job I want to add to the list because I'm starting to lowkey feel it is completely overtuned for a tank, and it's GNB. At higher level of play, I constantly see them topping the damage chart, damage taken charts. They're steamrolling through everything and I find it extremely scary. Put an AST behind and it's gg. A tank shouldn't output that much damage especially when it already tanks like a brick.

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Originally Posted by Valence

One job I want to add to the list because I'm starting to lowkey feel it is completely overtuned for a tank, and it's GNB. At higher level of play, I constantly see them topping the damage chart, damage taken charts. They're steamrolling through everything and I find it extremely scary. Put an AST behind and it's gg. A tank shouldn't output that much damage especially when it already tanks like a brick.

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Yeah I have come across GNBs that are scary. But also Paladins. They are currently the 2 top tanks, followed by WAR and DRK. DRK really got nerfed this time though.

DRK is currently crippled by some abilities like Disesteem being bugged and not always working properly.

Was full timing drg since it had such a consistently solid burst, but as of late, pld and Gnb are beasts in their own right. 1 vs 1, pld is unkillable, even against monks who no longer have that all precious tactical stun. But Gnb feels like it has the highest zerg potential. It bulldogs and eats squishies even if no one else is on em. Mchs, blms, brds, smns are suuuuuch yummy targets to just plain sit on and keep it 5-4. Know people are gonna cry it out of existence like with what just happened to ast and rdm, making pvp that much more soggy wheaties, so enjoy while ya can I guess (P_P)/

Had better success with WAR/GNB than with PLD/DRG/AST, even with the Orogeny nerf (which just got reverted). AST/RDM still get folded on a bad team.

Don't die... is rule number 1... rule number 2... get good, any job is awesome.