Why theres no MCH or BLM strike?

"We will balance all the jobs to pictos level"
LMAOOOOOO

So Ive played both jobs even tho those are my alt jobs I do play them when I get bored of my main job. I left BLM mostly in the freezer cuz the changes were horrible and unmade all the good things EW BLM had just because they felt "it was hard to play for new players" like honestly they made DT BLM way more obnoxious to play with the new changes and barely address the actual problems, just fix thunder head already and flare star still sucks also just a random enochian nerf for whatever reason?, thanks for the insta Despair I guess (like 90% BLM raiders would swift despair or flare star in their rotation) like I hope they properly tested BLM this time lmao and goodluck to any new aspiring BLM trying to handle double laylines. (They really dont want a double caster comp it seems)

And at this point they should remove MCH from the game it feels like they are just making fun of them lol. Besides from the fact that MCH is locked out from some pfs there is no reason at all to bring a MCH over a BRD or DNC. MCH is a selfish dps but the overall damage of the MCH doesn't compensate the raid buffs that BRD and DNC brings like whats the excuse from them is it the range tax again or something?.

PCT still overtuned even after all this changes but good for them I guess? It just took the death of a couple jobs here and there but yeah good for PCT

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Originally Posted by AurisNix

Why theres no MCH or BLM strike?

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Because the original strike hasn't really accomplished anything so far.

Edit: That's not to say that I'm against striking, but it's achieved so very little.

I nevertheless play MCH. Other players will suffer from it, muhahaha!

Jokes aside! xD
It's not my fault when SE isn't able to do it right and let's MCH have too less dps. I won't stop playing my job because of their mistakes.

At the moment it is like in Endwalker. With expansion release the dps from MCH is a bad joke. And same is it now in Dawntrail. Last time they buffed it to death over all the patches.

Looking at the patch notes from 7.1, it seems like it's the same this time. Now I am weak no matter what I do, and later it feels op because it's buffed somehow over the top. I don't get why MCH has to wait so long to have normal good dps.

Feels like they really hate MCH. But I honestly don't think that striking helps.

didn't MCH gotten many buffs just now?

anyway, MCH is cozy and i'll still play it since i don't need to have trust issue with how competent my partner/party is to leech off their DPS :)

I love MCH is super speedy and fun to play, both BLM and MCH are jobs that actually give me a little more of extra challenge but both are deep in the whole right now and MCH is the one that has been there for a long a** time. Like why MCH cant be on par of a Melee like sure range tax is always the dumbest excuse but MCH brings nothing to the party andI at least consider the rotation harder than so many other dps jobs (and they keep doubling down on the numbness of some jobs with each adjustment they try to implement) MCH was my refuge after they butchered BLM but now I can fully understand the frustration of MCH being so mistreated.

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Originally Posted by Bellybell

didn't MCH gotten many buffs just now?

anyway, MCH is cozy and i'll still play it since i don't need to have trust issue with how competent my partner/party is to leech off their DPS :)

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Not really still the lowest dps overall, DNC and BRD raid buffs completely destroys MCH selfish damage, so having a MCH in the party is a damage loss.

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Originally Posted by AurisNix

Not really still the lowest dps overall, DNC and BRD raid buffs completely destroys MCH selfish damage, so having a MCH in the party is a damage loss.

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I think as long as the damage of the group is enough to clear, then this is not that important. : 3
Damage of MCH is shitty again. But it's not that bad that it's unplayable. It's just a little bit annoying that SE is not able to balance it better over such a long time.
If a group is not able to clear with a well played MCH than the problem isn't the MCH. xD

There can't be new strikes when the current strikes that's been going on since before DT hasn't been effective, have you seen what healers got for 7.1?

Y'all getting PR stunt'd by Yoshi P with the bringing all the jobs to PCT level thing

I think it's about time to go on black mage strike. (not really because it wont do anything lol) Feels like they want its DPS to be blatantly worse then Picto why did they need to reduce Enochian... I heard its only a slight buff overall with the other changes BLM didn't need a "slight buff" it needed a lot of help.

Seriously tired of seeing small cautious buffs for jobs, when all was needed is to tune down picto instead of just buffing every job, People aren't going to get that upset by tuning down some numbers on a job already over performing, people get more annoyed when theirs just slow action taking place, having to wait 4 months, for a tiny buff usually isn't great.

Because BLM hasn't been neglected for 5+ years.
Even MCH is getting due changes, and it might not be enough but they are going in the right direction towards balancing.

Healers on the other hand are getting worse and worse, they reduced their manacost (when they were already using 2 710 items to avoid piety) and buffed the healing and continued to buff tanks defensively.
Notice how every hit detection improved was for DPS and Tanks ? yeah they forgot healers even had those kind of issues too (Benediction, fairy spells, Divine Benison)

What are you talking about? Look at all the yalms Flamethrower's range has been increased to. Why would we strike anything?

Because as soon as people complain about the job, they make it a lot worse out of pure spite. It's been shit to play since the great demolition in shb, and shit on damage to boot.

Mao nots planning to strike. Mao planning to LEAVE.

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Originally Posted by Swordsman

Because the original strike hasn't really accomplished anything so far.

Edit: That's not to say that I'm against striking, but it's achieved so very little.

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Sorry to derail, but the healer strike achieved so little because SE’s home market represented on the JP forums generally (not everyone of course) have no problems with current healer design and don’t get what the big deal is. See: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/499751

To the topic, a “DPS strike”would be pointless unless JP players are also on board. And having lived there before, I can say that strikes just aren’t part of their culture even IRL. In the US, we say “the squeaky wheel gets the grease” but in Japan they say “the nail that sticks up gets hammered down.”

Striking is not about making everyone suddenly stop playing something: it won't happen and everyone knows it, and DF has shown that it didn't affect it the slightest as well.

It's just a buzzword to raise up a problem and generate debates and visibility, and it worked, since the hashtag took off so much that streamers talked about it, and even journalists talked about it. And the meme is going to stay in XIV's history. Wish I could say the same about ranged jobs and MCH.

You guy don't seem to understand what a strike is supposed to be. For a strike to be effective, you need to actually bother other by striking. In the real world, that means blocking the means of production, thus hitting the revenue.

Translated in FFXIV, Healer strike (theorically) make sense because without healer, the whole game reach a point where it's not playable for the majority. Without Black Mage or machinist... well, nothing would change, there are 2 other ranged and 3 other magical dps. Thus BLM or MCH strike is fundamentally useless. nobody would even notice there is a strike running. It was already barely felt with healers, despite being a already less played role.

My BLM strike started shortly after I hit level 100 and decided that I hate Flare Star. For some reason, they made Despair instant-cast, when the change I was actually hoping to see was an instant-cast Flare Star that can be used with fewer stacks at a lower potency. But a lot of the 7.1 job changes are...weird, honestly.

Double Down actually made the existence of the cartridge system on GNB make sense, and then they took that away, so now I'm back to the ShB days of thinking that we don't need cartridges at all (just put Burst Strike on a cooldown and up its potency).

DNC has always had weird "this skill turns this other skill into a new skill" decisions, but the one they chose to consolidate in 7.1 is probably the weirdest. It'd be easy to consolidate standard/technical finish into skill chains that don't change the rotation but let you free up some hotbar space.

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Originally Posted by AurisNix

"We will balance all the jobs to pictos level"
LMAOOOOOO

So Ive played both jobs even tho those are my alt jobs I do play them when I get bored of my main job. I left BLM mostly in the freezer cuz the changes were horrible and unmade all the good things EW BLM had just because they felt "it was hard to play for new players" like honestly they made DT BLM way more obnoxious to play with the new changes and barely address the actual problems, just fix thunder head already and flare star still sucks also just a random enochian nerf for whatever reason?, thanks for the insta Despair I guess (like 90% BLM raiders would swift despair or flare star in their rotation) like I hope they properly tested BLM this time lmao and goodluck to any new aspiring BLM trying to handle double laylines. (They really dont want a double caster comp it seems)

And at this point they should remove MCH from the game it feels like they are just making fun of them lol. Besides from the fact that MCH is locked out from some pfs there is no reason at all to bring a MCH over a BRD or DNC. MCH is a selfish dps but the overall damage of the MCH doesn't compensate the raid buffs that BRD and DNC brings like whats the excuse from them is it the range tax again or something?.

PCT still overtuned even after all this changes but good for them I guess? It just took the death of a couple jobs here and there but yeah good for PCT

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MCH has never been locked out of PF.

Why does it matter how much damage the jobs all do when even a group of 4 mch can clear at min ilvl?

What's more important, damage or gameplay, MCH plays just fine?

I guess all you care about it doing big number, you must be one of these slaves to the forbidden website. Are you just upset because you are bad at MCH? (hint: even if they buff it, you still get judged against other MCH players so it won't make your pointless fake internet scores better)

Still going Mch as main dps, why? Its single target rotation is smooth, personally think its one if best of all current jobs, especially with low ping like I have. Definitely dont hit numbers with other party members that know their job like the back of their hand but with "average" or pugs its pretty damn effective. Really my only vital issue with Mch is its horrible aoe rotation, hardly any of its skills there go off each other and its a massive mess, if theres at least 1 thing I want them to change its adding the ogcd reduction from using Autocrossbow during hypercharge...