Previous Series PvP Gear is still not available

While Yoshi P said this gear would be available in the future, this was clearly just an attempt to defend against "FOMO" allegations for the Series reward structure. Please look forward to PvP FOMO.

inb4 "bUt tHeY cOuLd sTiLl bRinG tHeM bACk"

It was really strange that they said PvP Series rewards would be available for longer than the series by some means but they didn't turn out to be. I've wondered if it was just a translation error or something.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It was really strange that they said PvP Series rewards would be available for longer than the series by some means but they didn't turn out to be. I've wondered if it was just a translation error or something.

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On a serious note, I have a feeling that these gearsets could come back in future moogle tome events, and not an eventual "Here we added them to the pvp store to buy for crystals/marks" :(. At this point, that is my best guess (Assuming the statement is truthful and also not a translation error).

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Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro

On a serious note, I have a feeling that these gearsets could come back in future moogle tome events, and not an eventual "Here we added them to the pvp store to buy for crystals/marks" :(. At this point, that is my best guess (Assuming the statement is truthful and also not a translation error).

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Or Square Enix does what Square Enix does best, and puts them in the Mog Store.

I'm very much against giving something for free that a player didn't earn. When will people start asking for the mentor grind mount and other mounts such as that for free. Unless you didn't mean ranked stuff. Then it's whatever

The series rewards are hardly something to laud over other players. They're earned by simply playing PvP a lot--and I'm saying this as somebody who loves the current iteration of PvP, and has gone through the full ranks every time on my main, as well as several times on several alts.

Things like random outfits, mounts, framer's kits, and, god forbid, RP-friendly emotes that NPCs have had for ages, shouldn't be forever locked in a vault because people weren't playing PvP--or even the game--at the right time. The series rewards don't take skill to get. Just add them to the Wolf Marks shop or something, it's been more than enough time. They told us forever ago that they'd have them return in some form, anyway.

EDIT: Well, I posted this right before the previous reply's edit. That's awkward. Uh, my bad; though my feelings toward the PvP series system remains the same regardless.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

I'm very much against giving something for free that a player didn't earn. When will people start asking for the mentor grind mount and other mounts such as that for free. Unless you didn't mean ranked stuff. Then it's whatever

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"Previous Series PvP Gear is still not available" means the latter :)

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Originally Posted by Doopliss

EDIT: Well, I posted this right before the previous reply's edit. That's awkward. Uh, my bad; though my feelings toward the PvP series system remains the same regardless.

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Wouldn't feel bad about it. They clearly did not read the title of the thread anyway :p

If they're gonna adopt a quasi battle-pass system they should just commit to it with ingame currency. Make it so previous series can be unlocked with wolf collars.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

I'm very much against giving something for free that a player didn't earn.

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I don't think it matters if it's not something that is currently accessible in anyway.
It doesn't really show accomplishment past "I played some PVP for an amount of time".

The scarcity was implied when it was first released, I don't think that giving/selling something roughly 2 years after it was taken away is an issue.

They said it was going to be attainable again down the line, but as of yet, they haven't done that.
I've run out of things to spend trophy crystals on at this point, so why not bring it back for x amount of y currency?

I think that in all cases, items you can no longer obtain hurts the game in the long run. There will be a sense of FOMO that tires active players while potential newcomers go "I missed my chance for this content, so I'm less interested."
Obviously this happens to different extents. I think far less people are concerned about, say, 1 pre-order minion. But a lot of the PvP items have been very cool, very neat, and very disheartening if you missed them.

I was fortunate enough to already be active when PvP Series were implemented, so I was able to get most (but not all) of the rewards, including several emotes that now make me think "why doesn't everyone have access to this?"
As far as the Series are concerned, I hope they return and become available to all who play PvP. It could be sold for wolf marks, could be sold for trophy crystals, I just hope the option will be there, so nobody has to look at it and say "it's a shame I missed my chance at this."

If people are that against previous items being made available for players who weren't playing at the time (which... idk why that matters so much), what SE could do is make them exchangeable for wolf collars for roughly the equivalent amount it took to grind for them originally?

On another note I wish they would rerelease or make a reskin of the Eagle/Wolf coats but considering how they were originally obtained that is probably a pipe dream.

I'm under the assumption that they will be reintroduced in either 7.1, or 7.2. Hard to predict what SE is planning.

If/When they do come back I expect either they will bump the crystal capacity + sell them for crystals, or put them for sale for wolf collars. I doubt any of the previous rewards will be put on the Mogstation. It's more likely they'll be a considerable grind that will require many, many hours of PvP to attain.

Yeah it'd be nice if the items came back so that people could get the rewards again
I like the ideas I've seen about buying them with trophy crystals or wolf collars and having the limit be high so that it'd still require grinding
Would definitely take a lot of the FOMO out of the system
I have all the rewards so far and they're not anything I would consider prestigious, given that you really only have to do a lot of PvP to get it, rather than the feast rewards of needing to be certain ranks

I don't know why they haven't yet, given that there should be plenty of past rewards to add to the shop

They really should add the old PvP rank reward gear to the Trophy Crystal vendor... The mounts and other rewards, those can probably remain exclusive if Square absolutely wants to have something no player can ever obtain again...

I'm fine with Feast rewards remaining unobtainable forever.

But the FoMo season rewards do not deserve to remain unobtainable. It took no skill and only required participation within a 4 month or so period to earn them. If they were ranked rewards, I wouldn't mind. Infact I think more people would participate in ranked PvP if there were FoMo rewards that were guaranteed to go away forever. There is nothing that gets PvP degenerates to no life and grind towards than something exclusive they can flex on other players with.

I'm missing that one emote determined I think....
What a joke of a game design.

I think wolf collars is a good idea. It'd give them something of value to be turned in for and I don't think they should be a quick and easy grind.

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Originally Posted by Archeron

I'm fine with Feast rewards remaining unobtainable forever.

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As someone who missed out on playing the Feast, I'm also OK with this. It's a bummer to not be able to get them, but I also do think the folks who were there deserve the stuff to retain its exclusivity. Stuff introduced from CC onwards though? Definitely needs to be made available (I say this as someone who has been playing CC from the start and has all the rewards).

if they add them back I wouldn't mind it being like almost cap of wolf mark

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Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

if they add them back I wouldn't mind it being like almost cap of wolf mark

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They're dedicated to not adding any new wolf mark rewards more interesting than materia. I think Shadowbringers was the last time anything else was added to that pool.

that's why the old PvP series item could be added it will go e you something to spend your wolf mark on but it's just a idea even tho I am sure they will add it to the online store instead

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Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

that's why the old PvP series item could be added it will go e you something to spend your wolf mark on but it's just a idea even tho I am sure they will add it to the online store instead

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At least some cosmetics going from the not-battle pass to trophy crystals to wolf marks makes too much sense for CS3.

I'd honestly prefer they keep the "battle-pass" cosmetic gear to Trophy Crystals since guess what? It's the most useless currency in the game. Like, people are going to buy what they want from the Trophy Crystal Store, and then what? It'd make more sense just to add more from previous series into that specific store so we can buy them(and pieces being at high prices if you're really that concerned about them). That way, they're available - Yoshida needs to commit to this in 7.1 so that we don't have to keep bringing this up.

Bruh this chat probably filled with ppl who believe savage and ultimate weapons should be given to them for free with no effort....

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Originally Posted by RenegadeInferno

I don't think it matters if it's not something that is currently accessible in anyway.
It doesn't really show accomplishment past "I played some PVP for an amount of time".

The scarcity was implied when it was first released, I don't think that giving/selling something roughly 2 years after it was taken away is an issue.

They said it was going to be attainable again down the line, but as of yet, they haven't done that.
I've run out of things to spend trophy crystals on at this point, so why not bring it back for x amount of y currency?

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Yeah I misunderstood that it was asking for old ranked pvp items or something like that, I don't mind them opening up the old pvp "grind" items up though for currency.

Right now Trophy Crystals exist as a way for me to turn them into Wolf Collars. I turn Wolf Collars into Wolf Marks. I turn Wolf Marks into Grade 8 Dark Matter.

Trophy Crystals and Wolf Marks are nearly worthless and need to be revamped or completely changed to be worth using. This heavily includes the addition of previous PVP Series Rewards, as well as the addition of PVP aesthetic rewards that have not been accessible in the game for literally years.

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Originally Posted by Zakuyia

Bruh this chat probably filled with ppl who believe savage and ultimate weapons should be given to them for free with no effort....

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The patches are so long now that you can get every FOMO reward just by doing a daily Frontline roulette. They aren't things that require effort or skill. I'm fine with ranked rewards remaining exclusive, but there's no good reason for the rest beyond "You had to be there".

something something feast winners' self-image crumbles if people get access to old ass glamour sets. so they cannot.

This is why I got the mount this time around.... I don't care for it but if I don't get it now I never will.

Lost out on the gear I guess... oh well.