deep dungeon in duty finder?

Have seen the deep dungeons are a interesting part of both leveling and just doing something a bit different but noticed the wait times been going up when tried them recently so am wondering if adding to the duty finder and maybe even daily roulette would be of interest to others.

open to how it is right now but feel this could give this game mode a new lease and boost by adding it to duty finder.
Its same with variant dungeons they could also be put into the duty finder.

Regardless what happens here am looking forward to the future ff11 inspired content so going be engaging in that when it comes out.

Quarrymill, Onokoro, or Mor Dhona's npc to the eight sentinels are all next to an aetheryte.

Adding 40 different listings to the duty finder will not speed up queues (20 sets for PoTD, and 10 for the others). As for me I am indifferent, mostly because I don't do deep dungeons in parties beyond the first week or so.

I won't say I have a specific solution, but there are a few kinds of content that don't have any roulettes to fill in bodies, and that can make them kind of painful to queue for. The Deep Dungeons are one kind, but the Variant Dungeons are even worse in my experience. I'd love it if they made a few new roulettes for this kind of stuff.

I'm not sure how Deep Dungeons would work in a roulette simply because of how the floors are structured. There is, however, other content that I think needs looked at like DR that needs their queue systems fixed or reworked.

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Originally Posted by MaxWinter

It takes too long to use the built-in queue for Deep Dungeons

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Party Finder. This also allows you to keep Magicites/Demiclones/Pomanders between floorsets and allows you to go beyond floor 100 (PotD) or 30 (HoH/EO).

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

I turned Matchmaking on for Variant Dungeons and it's taking ages to fill the party

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Party Finder, or just solo it by turning matchmaking off. The only reason why it would take longer to do a Variant Dungeon solo rather than in a party is if your personal DPS is substantially lower than expected due to the HP for all bosses and enemies being reduced to adjust for not having as many party members.

I don’t think DD are suitable for roulette unless it keeps putting you at the first level of each dungeon because people can be on different floors. If you want to go in with a party go to where the DD is located and the game will place you with 3 randoms. This is only good for 10 levels. If you want a party that will stay for longer try party finder and mention what you want (i.e. in PotD lvl 1-50, 51-60 for leveling, 51-100, 51-200 for completion - make time for about 5 hours for that). You can also go solo.

There is also a DD discord. It’s where I go when I want a full run as PF often finds unreliable people like that first time moron who wanted a completion run and who we carried only for him to leave at floor 180 without a word, leaving us to have to restart all over. If someone pulled that with other people in discord, they’d get the boot.

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Originally Posted by LibitIncarne

Party Finder, or just solo it by turning matchmaking off. The only reason why it would take longer to do a Variant Dungeon solo rather than in a party is if your personal DPS is substantially lower than expected due to the HP for all bosses and enemies being reduced to adjust for not having as many party members.

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Automated matchmaking is so choice though. I remember MMO's before automated matchmaking, and honestly I don't want to go back there. It's so much slower and clunkier. Heck, the reason I finally quit FF11 was because the manual nature of getting groups together was just too slow to get anything done in a reasonable period of time. And in my experience, Party Finder is only a slight improvement compared to that.

As for solo...I love playing with other people! They're half the fun in this game. ^^

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

I love playing with other people! They're half the fun in this game. ^^

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Consider the following:
Make ingame friends or join an FC and get them to do content with you that has an absurd queue time.

speaking of deep dungeons, i wish it was possible to pick a prior floor set at the penalty of getting no aetherpool/item rewards. and the exp/poetics are lowered to the lowest floors rewards (either 1-10, or checkpoint floors, such as the 51 for PotD) (also doesnt save your progress in the save files)
So when someone says they cant find ppl for floors 31-40, or 41-50 of PotD, they dont just give up on the content and quit (as with most ppl i know)

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Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

speaking of deep dungeons, i wish it was possible to pick a prior floor set at the penalty of getting no aetherpool/item rewards. and the exp/poetics are lowered to the lowest floors rewards (either 1-10, or checkpoint floors, such as the 51 for PotD) (also doesnt save your progress in the save files)
So when someone says they cant find ppl for floors 31-40, or 41-50 of PotD, they dont just give up on the content and quit (as with most ppl i know)

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Or you know, you can just use Party Finder, find a few people who want to do 1-50, and clear it while not having to immediately use pomanders since they won't get wasted between floorsets.

Something I think might be an interesting idea would be a "Deep Dungeon Roulette" that requires a certain level aetherpool set to queue up. This could be for someone that just wants to level in deep dungeon and doesn't care which one. It could then offer a reward that bridges the gap between whichever deep dungeon floor group they get and the highest deep dungeon their job is eligible to enter. This would allow for filling parties trying to progress through matchmaking without adding any real complexity. It also wouldn't offer any tangible benefit to someone spamming it outside of just shorter queue times in exchange for helping others. (I'm not suggesting a single daily reward, but a repeatable reward. The point is to make it so it's equal to doing the highest deep dungeon you can on your job.)

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Originally Posted by LibitIncarne

Or you know, you can just use Party Finder, find a few people who want to do 1-50, and clear it while not having to immediately use pomanders since they won't get wasted between floorsets.

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what made u assume i didnt already do this?
Im just saying "For those who ALREADY did it", it would be nice to help other people a bit easier.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

Quarrymill, Onokoro, or Mor Dhona's npc to the eight sentinels are all next to an aetheryte.

Adding 40 different listings to the duty finder will not speed up queues (20 sets for PoTD, and 10 for the others). As for me I am indifferent, mostly because I don't do deep dungeons in parties beyond the first week or so.

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The benefit would actually having them in a daily roulette with a good daily completion bonus, pretty much like the other duties that people rarely queue outside of those. Who ever queues for Praetorium outside of the MSQ queue and once while leveling? It naturally feeds into the wait times of people manually queueing for them, DD being in the Duty Finder or not.

A roulette sure, but individual floor listings wouldn't work too well. Not sure they'd let it apply to sets beyond the non-challenge floors but they'd maybe increase the odds of getting it done for people that'd want that.

And these roulettes would need to be unable to interfere with your saves as you can't just do 71-100 on a whim in potd. In concept it sounds simple but who knows if their spaghetti code would allow it because for all we know a simple roulette would somehow divide the servers by 0.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

A roulette sure, but individual floor listings wouldn't work too well. Not sure they'd let it apply to sets beyond the non-challenge floors but they'd maybe increase the odds of getting it done for people that'd want that.

And these roulettes would need to be unable to interfere with your saves as you can't just do 71-100 on a whim in potd. In concept it sounds simple but who knows if their spaghetti code would allow it because for all we know a simple roulette would somehow divide the servers by 0.

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Yeah... I presume that the most obvious roulette choice would be just the 51-60 PotD, and 21-30 HoH / EO, which would obviously require the player having them completed beforehand.

Come to sit on the idea, I'd REALLY love it. Sometimes it becomes too boring to farm those levels on your own, given the queues can be barren (especially EO).

I also wonder how much action Blue Mage would see if they had a daily roulette too. That would be harder logistically as well, but maybe they could make the respective mimicries count as actual roles? Idk if the 'sphagetti code' allows that, though. Despite being a very divisive topic, I'm actually happy with how the job is (with just some minor complaints), but what throws me off is that I can't just "log in and jump into action"... BLU's replayable content is all group based and requires some setup that might not even work if you can't make a party. That would solve this issue, for me at least.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I also wonder how much action Blue Mage would see if they had a daily roulette too. That would be harder logistically as well, but maybe they could make the respective mimicries count as actual roles? Idk if the 'sphagetti code' allows that, though. Despite being a very divisive topic, I'm actually happy with how the job is (with just some minor complaints), but what throws me off is that I can't just "log in and jump into action"... BLU's replayable content is all group based and requires some setup that might not even work if you can't make a party. That would solve this issue, for me at least.

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Aetheric Mimicry isn't mandatory to play BLU so that wouldn't be needed. If you need players to help you fill BLU Party Finders, go contact the Blue Academy or something.