Reverse WoW exodus

I didn't buy Dawntrail because I didn't like how it looked and didn't have faith in the developers, I was going to wait. And sadly I was right, I'm not satisfied with what I'm seeing in gameplay or narrative.

My bf got it, hated it, and ended up putting it down at a certain point where you have to walk around a big empty places turning off things. He went back to playing WoW, even. Which is bad. He isn't a long time WoW player or anything either, but I also think I'm going to check it out too to play with him instead of on FFXIV.

So, how about a reverse exodus? To anywhere really, any game you'd rather play than Dawntrail. May as well make it a boycott. No sense in wasting my time forcing myself to play something I don't care for like Dawntrail. The FFXIV fanbase is pretty blindly loyal though.

Bye then, have fun with whatever game you decide to play.

You don't need our permission to play WoW. Have fun!

mmkay bye bye~ can i have your stuff?

It's like this and always will be with any MMORPG. They start from the bottom, gain popularity by dedicating themselves, rise to the top, and then start doing everything to grab as much money as possible while the game falls apart. I'm with you on this. I told my friends that this expansion wouldn't be anything special and refused to buy it. I don't regret anything after seeing their streams and their reactions on Discord (to be honest, I only started paying the subscription again because my friends started a new season of comic book RP, and I got excited to join).

You'd have to pay me to play WoW

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

You'd have to pay me to play WoW

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I wear my "I've never played WoW and never will" as a badge of honor lol.

If the combat wasnt engaging then maybe, but Dawntrail does just enough to keep players engaged.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

You'd have to pay me to play WoW

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You'd not only have to pay me, including the sub fees and whatever expansions I'd need to purchase (I left in Legion, I have no idea which later expacs are included in the base game now), you'd also have to buy me a new PC, because I ain't doing it.

I will never touch another game by these breast milk thieves again.

If you quit FF14 because of the "shitty lore of Dawntrail" then oh boy, you will have no fun with WoW.

I'm a WoW veteran that came to FFXIV during HW and honestly despite my feelings on how Dawntrail kinda deserves it's 'mid' reputation, nothing from The War Within has me interested enough to pull out my credit card.

Maybe if the story ends up being good I'll grab it, but so far it's just not appetizing enough.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

You'd have to pay me to play WoW

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I would agree... except, there is no way I could be paid enough to go back. it became a literal job and once leaving I never looked back. once they stop earning your money, its pretty hard to return to anything... especially a game.

It’s funny because the WoW community is currently complaining about the state of the pre-patch and what can be expected from TWW.

They gave me free login, I did quit asap.
I still don't understand the reason of that login "brigade" interface, the "modern GUI" they made and other.
BUT the online store is perfect, there is always a button to go and buy something in the store.

Take note Square enix: if you need hints for a better online store go and play wow.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Gyactus

They gave me free login, I did quit asap.
I still don't understand the reason of that login "brigade" interface, the "modern GUI" they made and other.
BUT the online store is perfect, there is always a button to go and buy something in the store.

Take note Square enix: if you need hints for a better online store go and play wow.

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Yes, because integrating the cash shop even more is REALLY what this game needs now.

Rift is pretty good.

i still haven't bought dawntrail

Enjoy, I guess. Judging by WoW player comments under their recent official YouTube videos you won't - but you never know!

DT is milked enough this expansion

I don't see the game comeback not 2.5 not in 5 years

You won't see me return to WoW even if paid or held at gunpoint, from a nasty community since like Wrath of the lich king or earlier to Legion's grindy work like feel to the terrible writing that seem to just get worse and worse.. And don't forget the overly reliance on addons if you ever want to get into raiding or high end content. Because the devs seem to love to build mechanics that close to oneshot expecting that people use things shouting and flashing their screen with "This is happening in 10 seconds!!" instead of more clear effects.
Don't need that nonsense in my life... if i want grind there is warframe for free.

Either EU got insane server capacity or there weren't enough players to make the queues we had on Endwalker launch. I would say Sproutbringer ended somewhere after Endwalker. People did the MSQ, Dragonflght got announced and they switched. Long-term relationships and addiction are still there. And as the expansion was somewhat good it didn't manage to regain all of the players lost (underperformed on sales and subs than what they expected) it started a trend and with Metzen here and there people probably now will go play War Within launch. FFXIV won't have any significant content until the next expansion anyway unless someone wants to clear all the tiers. WoW at least is capable of big change each expansion, especially when their playerbase hits rock bottom from bad content :)

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Originally Posted by sharknado

Either EU got insane server capacity or there weren't enough players to make the queues we had on Endwalker launch.

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it got a lot of new space between whole new worlds added and all world capacity was increased from 20k to 30k max players a 50% increase which is insane if you think of how many more players that meant we could hold total and there was still ques.

Presumably there were also fewer DDoS attacks making the mess worse.

Kinda related, there was a thread not long ago encouraging people to take a break or quit if they needed to for their own health. So I consider this in the same vein.

I did buy DT, couldn't stand the story but finally managed to finish it a couple days ago. It has left me with no interest in the MSQ unless they improve or change things. So I'm going to try the new WoW expansion when it comes out, then after that I'll check out ESO or Swtor as I haven't played either in a while and it should be interesting to see what is new. And I've been meaning to give GW2 a proper try so I'd also like to play that. Not to mention the massive backlog of single player games I have that has been sitting around collecting digital dust.

I think the whole one game and nothing else mentality is really unnecessary, though I also understand it as MMOs are designed around you devoting all your time to just that game. But it is good to try other things. You wouldn't just watch one movie or read one book in your lifetime, so why resign yourself to only playing one game? Most of all games should be enjoyed, if you're not enjoying it then it might be better to look to a different one.

Personally, I'll be checking out streams of the patch MSQ as it comes out to see how it goes. If I like the look of it I'll come back, if I don't I'll just continue playing other things and waiting.

WoW is pretty nice right now tbh. They have that MoP remix thing which lets you level alts super fast in the old expansion, run the raids together with all those players (raids that would otherwise be dead because they're old), collect all kinds of transmog and mounts, including those that used to be VERY hard to get, brand new shinies too, and you also get power ups throughout the whole thing, so it's just... Fun... Casual, easy, fast, populated fun.

I actually commend them for the idea. They figured out a way to bring old content back to life, and to make it a hundred times more fun at the same time.

Generally Blizz is doing a lot better. They seem to have learned from their HUGE Shadowlands mistakes. Dragonflight was THE adventuring expansion that Dawntrail wishes it could be. No idea how War Within will turn out, that remains to be seen. Who knows, they might drop the ball again. Or not. Right now I'm enjoying the game though.

The benefit of playing multiple MMOs is just that - you can hop to another whenever one of them starts sucking. Once it improves you can go back. Not every expansion can be a brilliant success, sometimes they just... exist. Hopefully the next can be better though.

Always important to remember though, feedback is what makes those things improve. WoW community is always vocal about their issues. It has helped and will continue helping make the game better. The FFXIV community still struggles with the concept... But maybe eventually we'll figure these things out.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Yes, because integrating the cash shop even more is REALLY what this game needs now.

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we reap what we sow.

Anyway, do you think the ffxiv cash shop IS integrated? Because when you write "even more" I think "it is already", but I don't find a single button of this integration.
On the other hand, wow has a button close the inventory, the help, the skill list page... a missclick is really easy if you use the mouse instead of a shortcut.

Great job Microsoft-Blizzard.

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Originally Posted by BakoolJaJa

WoW is pretty nice right now tbh. They have that MoP remix thing which lets you level alts super fast in the old expansion, run the raids together with all those players (raids that would otherwise be dead because they're old), collect all kinds of transmog and mounts, including those that used to be VERY hard to get, brand new shinies too, and you also get power ups throughout the whole thing, so it's just... Fun... Casual, easy, fast, populated fun.

I actually commend them for the idea. They figured out a way to bring old content back to life, and to make it a hundred times more fun at the same time.

Generally Blizz is doing a lot better. They seem to have learned from their HUGE Shadowlands mistakes. Dragonflight was THE adventuring expansion that Dawntrail wishes it could be. No idea how War Within will turn out, that remains to be seen. Who knows, they might drop the ball again. Or not. Right now I'm enjoying the game though.

The benefit of playing multiple MMOs is just that - you can hop to another whenever one of them starts sucking. Once it improves you can go back. Not every expansion can be a brilliant success, sometimes they just... exist. Hopefully the next can be better though.

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war within is shaping up to be an appropriate expansion for part 1 of 3. delves which can be solo and give up to heroic gear, and the weekly vault is adding a world bar to replace the pvp bar. and the world content will count toward it including delves. im actually pretty hype

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

$20k a month.

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Exodus this, refugees that... what happened to just playing games you enjoyed? SE will know that their golden goose is dying when their numbers start to fall, no need to organize events over not playing games because 1% of your expected playtime during any specific expansion is sub-par. MMOs almost feel like toxic game design in how much they hook people into them. Switching games shouldn't be this big of an ordeal.

Granted, I'm probably going to give WoW a shot when the new expansion comes out, but even though I like its combat flow better than XIV's, I've been dissatisfied with its metagame/endgame prog for far, far too long to have any desire to put significant time into it.

You want to run the same 5 dungeons over and over (and over (and over)) again at varying levels of difficulty (tuning only, no new mechanics 4head) between raid tiers? Play WoW.

You want to do literally anything else? Consider GW2 or FFXIV.

I played WoW for 14 years straight and while it does a lot of stuff well (like ACTUALLY WORKING on the client! You see, they actually add code to it! Shocking, I know!), they do a lot of things wrong. Not to mention the scandals around them.
So for the time being, I'm not planning on coming back, even if TWW tempts me a bit.

Anyway, did you guys see that Sylvanas got disqualified from Women's Tennis at Paris 2024?

She refused to serve.

I am checking out WoW right now after not playing since 2019. My issue with Dawntrail is how quick I burned through the content on launch. This feels like a very light content launch. Also I just interested in the latest story of WoW.

I have not purchased War Within mind you as I am severely wary of how rude and mean the players are in that game. Also it appears my former serve from 2019 is dead and I am not paying Blizzard money to move to a non dead server.

People need to stop getting married to video games.

Just play them both, have fun, and make your own decision on what you want to spend your time with.

YoshiP won't get offended if you play other MMOs.

Promise.

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I'm not interested in WoW's aesthetic or the type of players that it would appeal to.

It's too complicated for new players to get into by all accounts, which is why it's riddled with veterans who know how to play it.

Despite how WoW players have talked up the graphics and even dared to say they are better than FFXIV... I am not impressed by any video I've seen of it.

A lot of the time-wasting mechanisms in MMORPGs were nerfed or removed in FFXIV and while they still exist, it's casual enough that I can stop and eat food whenever I want and I don't have this "can't eat or look after myself for several hours" issue that MMORPGs used to give me. I don't expect that level of casualization in other MMORPGs.

Wow it's a mmorpg
FFIXV isn't a mmorpg

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Originally Posted by FuwafuwaMii

I will never touch another game by these breast milk thieves again.

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Wait.. just tell me who you're talking about I find this to hilarious not to know,

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Originally Posted by FuwafuwaMii

I will never touch another game by these breast milk thieves again.

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Originally Posted by Selvokaz

Wait.. just tell me who you're talking about I find this to hilarious not to know,

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Google "Blizzard breast milk" and you're in for a ride.

That would be some Nomura tier expansion name : Final Fantasy XIV : RE:Exodus