They buffed DRK damage?!

Not gonna lie I am surprised to see DRK get something good I feel it's been so long since DRK had a buff mid expension I think the last time was in like 6,2 with Living Dead buff I say that like it was a revolution but DRK is so used to be forgotten by the dev that having some bread crumbs is a an achivement

Shootout to PLD chads who got buffed too you deserved it

I know a lot of people wants to skip ahead from Dawntrail and move onto 8.0 already. But isn't it a little early to call it "mid expansion"?

these small incremental buffs really dont mean anything to me, I mean to me a big update should fundamentally change something about a job, how something works, or adds something new.

DRK was literally top dps with distance, for 2/3rds of EW lol

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Originally Posted by Noox-115

Not gonna lie I am surprised to see DRK get something good I feel it's been so long since DRK had a buff mid expension I think the last time was in like 6,2 with Living Dead buff I say that like it was a revolution but DRK is so used to be forgotten by the dev that having some bread crumbs is a an achivement

Shootout to PLD chads who got buffed too you deserved it

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They sure did, and it was kinda needed IMO. Time to give DRK a shot once again.

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Originally Posted by AlessaImpera

DRK was literally top dps with distance, for 2/3rds of EW lol

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shhhhhh don't tell them that they will nerf it back

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

I know a lot of people wants to skip ahead from Dawntrail and move onto 8.0 already. But isn't it a little early to call it "mid expansion"?

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I say this because its an in between patch even for the 7,01 i would have said mid expansion

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Originally Posted by Selvokaz

these small incremental buffs really dont mean anything to me, I mean to me a big update should fundamentally change something about a job, how something works, or adds something new.

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Maybe in 8.0 tho I am with you on that I would like to see some changes but I don't know if it will happen in DT

Citizens, rejoice. Finally some good news for DRK ever since a few years ago where Yoshi P asked players for feedback concerning the state of DRK and still did nothing about Living Dead and Blood Weapon.

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Originally Posted by Swordsman

They sure did, and it was kinda needed IMO. Time to give DRK a shot once again.

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Citizen, the DRK design and concept always reminded of a high-dpsing tank from other MMOs so it's indeed good news to see Square embracing the idea as well.





Fight as one.

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Originally Posted by Noox-115

I say this because its an in between patch even for the 7,01 i would have said mid expansion

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Well, I can't deny that anything from "start" to "finish" could be mid.
But considering the timeframe from when it launched and when the next expansion will hit it's still pretty early and not mid imo.
It's like someone would say "What a nice summer day" in January.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

Citizen, the DRK design and concept always reminded of a high-dpsing tank from other MMOs so it's indeed good news to see Square embracing the idea as well.

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Yup people wanted jobs to play differently and this is one way of making that happen. DRK reminds me of a drain tank who creates sustain by leaching life from its target.

Lol ... all of you know Gunbreaker is still easily the highest DPS tank right? Also they buffed all paladin damage too? This change was legit just to move DK back into either basically on par with the other tanks (not Gunbreaker) or the clear #2 (cause Gunbreaker is still #1). They still did not fix the biggest problem... the loss of MP regen.

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Originally Posted by Karkarov

Lol ... all of you know Gunbreaker is still easily the highest DPS tank right? Also they buffed all paladin damage too? This change was legit just to move DK back into either basically on par with the other tanks (not Gunbreaker) or the clear #2 (cause Gunbreaker is still #1). They still did not fix the biggest problem... the loss of MP regen.

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I dropped drk after SHB, but this sounds fun.... like doing lots of damage and life leaching it to sustain. I don;t want an overly complex rotation with bloated CDs.... just a fun streamlined job with an identity.

Pld is cool

War is fun

haven't played GNB

..but DRK is my favorite aesthetic... wish it felt as well designed as PICT.

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Originally Posted by Karkarov

Lol ... all of you know Gunbreaker is still easily the highest DPS tank right? Also they buffed all paladin damage too? This change was legit just to move DK back into either basically on par with the other tanks (not Gunbreaker) or the clear #2 (cause Gunbreaker is still #1). They still did not fix the biggest problem... the loss of MP regen.

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I am also surprised by this thread.

We already have some savage stats. DRK is still lowest dps tank M2-M4S and least played.

The buffs were nowhere close enough.

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Originally Posted by Somnolence

I am also surprised by this thread.

We already have some savage stats. DRK is still lowest dps tank M2-M4S and least played.

The buffs were nowhere close enough.

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Lowest in rDPS (i.e. not accounting for damage from others' raid buffs), but second highest in aDPS - DRK especially benefits raid buff heavy comps, while others will do better in one with fewer buffs, and that's kind of been the DRK's thing since the ShB rework. And the difference between top and bottom is ~200 DPS rn. Although things are likely to keep shifting as more data comes in, so we will see if this holds up in like two weeks.

You're right that DRK is the least played tank currently and we do really need gameplay adjustments, but numerically things are fine.

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Originally Posted by Vallerie

You're right that DRK is the least played tank currently and we do really need gameplay adjustments, but numerically things are fine.

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Its all about perception. DRK being at the bottom on DPS with lowest sustain and various other issues reinforces the idea that its the worst tank job.

This is why nobody plays BLM either - it also looks bad pick compared to alternatives and players have abandoned it while MCH still has some fans.

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Originally Posted by ApolloGenX

just a fun streamlined job with an identity.

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Streamlined?
Absolutely!

Identity?
except a few potency upgrade, this class has never seen the light of class identity since a few years, the only identity remaining is not in gameplay but in animations.
(and even then, there are some of those that feel really out of place ^^')

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

I know a lot of people wants to skip ahead from Dawntrail and move onto 8.0 already. But isn't it a little early to call it "mid expansion"?

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The story was subpar at best with too much emphasis on a character that people either like or hate, job changes have been terrible and they just butchered a shiny new job (VPR). The only content that seems passable is the fight design but even then the DPS checks feel unbalanced (they're far too easy). It's extremely safe to say that it's a very mid expansion.

DRK is still bottom of the Tanks rDPS wise so, they did not do much even if this is an skewed perception due to the fact that no one is playing this half baked job right now. There is still a big gap between the rest and it, be it sustain, damage or mitigation when it is not reliant on Magic mit, specially after the massive PLD buffs making it the best prog tank, hoping that instead of just, potency up, they think about the direction they want to job to go towards, and maybe, just give us more mana from BW and 1 extra OGCD, that would be amazing.