Onion Knights: Rise Up! - Return to Us the Peregrine Helm

I feel like the forums have been to hostile lately. So here's a more light hearted topic I would like to see returned to the game.

I want a way to get the Peregrine Helm.

Since the introduction of Quick Ventures there's been rumor and speculation that you could acquire the Peregrine Helm from Quick Ventures, with only an extreme small few claiming to have gotten it, and none showing any official proof.

At this point in time people speculate that the 1.0 items have been removed from the Quick Venture list, with counter speculations stating they haven't removed them. Though even if they haven't the odds of getting the Peregrine Helm are absurd.

So please give unto us better odds of getting the legendary Peregrine Helm, so that we may Glamour it across all classes.

Also maybe change the Red Onion Helm so it can be Glamoured across all classes too. You know maybe, please.

I got the onion doublet from a venture just the other day so they haven't removed those at least.

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Originally Posted by Sheriyana

I got the onion doublet from a venture just the other day so they haven't removed those at least.

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That's really good to know, did you by chance get a screenshot to confirm?

It's probably simply a case of the loot pool for Quick Ventures becoming extremely bloated, after 5 expansions there are just too many items that can drop from it, with some having a higher priority than others for some reason.

Anecdotal example, I've probably gotten more Amaurotine accessories from quick ventures than any other item and there was a time where you got spammed with the Stuffed Alpha housing item.

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Originally Posted by Alchemii

That's really good to know, did you by chance get a screenshot to confirm?

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No, had no reason to. I deleted the item too since I already had it. But it was like two days ago.

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Originally Posted by Sheriyana

No, had no reason to. I deleted the item too since I already had it. But it was like two days ago.

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:( Oh well at least that means there's hope.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

It's probably simply a case of the loot pool for Quick Ventures becoming extremely bloated, after 5 expansions there are just too many items that can drop from it, with some having a higher priority than others for some reason.

Anecdotal example, I've probably gotten more Amaurotine accessories from quick ventures than any other item and there was a time where you got spammed with the Stuffed Alpha housing item.

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A time? I still get spammed with them and Bom Bok.

you might be able to tune your retainers item level to maximize your chances. At least it feels like the pool gets bigger as they do

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Originally Posted by Nihility

you might be able to tune your retainers item level to maximize your chances. At least it feels like the pool gets bigger as they do

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As nice as that would be, I haven't found a viable way to pull it off. The level for the Peregrine Helm is lvl 30, so I would have to find a way to limit my retainers level to 30. Resetting them over and over could work, but that would also involve a huge time investment. I would need to reset them, level them back up to 30, get only a handful of quick ventures, then reset again.

I have been trying to get the Peregrine Helm, Onion Doublet, Onion Gaskins, and Onion Pattens since version 1.0. I did the original levequests that dropped some of these items a bunch of times before 1.0 ended. But they never dropped for me. Then I kept sending my retainer to quick ventures as much (whenever I was subbed) as I could over the years. I remember getting a couple item level 52 items that are unique to quick ventures (Explorer/Veteran gear), but that was a few expansions ago. I see a lot of Red Onion helmets on the market board right now, but none of the item level 52 gears. Perhaps other players simply turn them into seals instead of selling them on the market board? Or maybe they no longer drop. Some guy put a youtube short about a year ago showing he got a Red Onion Helm: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I0ZSgL0-OHY

Recently I re-classed my two retainers to max level 10 Rogue in order to reduce the size of the drop pool. They have brought me back a lot of green icon gear up to level 90 (ilvl 15+, 30+, 40+, etc..), furniture, crafting materials, level 1 glamour gear, and fish. I don't know if leveling them to level 30 will increase my chances for the peregrine helm since I am already getting ilvl 30ish gear. My suspicions are that the drop pool is the same until level 50, at which point level 130 gear should start dropping.

If I ever do get any of these rare items, I will definitely take a screenshot.

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Originally Posted by Keisar

I have been trying to get the Peregrine Helm, Onion Doublet, Onion Gaskins, and Onion Pattens since version 1.0. I did the original levequests that dropped some of these items a bunch of times before 1.0 ended. But they never dropped for me. Then I kept sending my retainer to quick ventures as much (whenever I was subbed) as I could over the years. I remember getting a couple item level 52 items that are unique to quick ventures (Explorer/Veteran gear), but that was a few expansions ago. I see a lot of Red Onion helmets on the market board right now, but none of the item level 52 gears. Perhaps other players simply turn them into seals instead of selling them on the market board? Or maybe they no longer drop. Some guy put a youtube short about a year ago showing he got a Red Onion Helm: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I0ZSgL0-OHY

Recently I re-classed my two retainers to max level 10 Rogue in order to reduce the size of the drop pool. They have brought me back a lot of green icon gear up to level 90 (ilvl 15+, 30+, 40+, etc..), furniture, crafting materials, level 1 glamour gear, and fish. I don't know if leveling them to level 30 will increase my chances for the peregrine helm since I am already getting ilvl 30ish gear. My suspicions are that the drop pool is the same until level 50, at which point level 130 gear should start dropping.

If I ever do get any of these rare items, I will definitely take a screenshot.

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That is a possibility. The only thing I have that's a low enough level for that would be Red Mage which is still 52, but I'm not sure it'll matter at that point. I'll also make sure to take a screen shot as well if any of those drop.

Ok sorry for the way I'm gonna have to show these, wasn't really paying attention, but I got them. Onion Gaskins!

Now this may not seem important, but it is at least proof that the Onion Gear (such as the Peregrine Helm) are still in Quick Venture Rotation!

Message of me getting them:
https://i.imgur.com/vrjFxAN.png

In inventory proof:
https://i.imgur.com/4BxT99f.png

I'd be excited to see an Onion Knight Limited Job return to the game, or something that operates similar to it. It's be an incredibly versatile Job.

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Originally Posted by Zelda206

I'd be excited to see an Onion Knight Limited Job return to the game, or something that operates similar to it. It's be an incredibly versatile Job.

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Funny thing about that. We actually have 2, technically 3, Onion Knight sets in the game already.
The first set is from 1.0, which with this confirms you can get all but the helmet from Quick Ventures, the Helmet you can only get if you bought the Collector's Edition of 1.0. It is for all classes.
The second set is from Labyrinth of the Ancients and it was Drg only, but has been updated to allow Rpr to wear it now as well.
The technical third set is from pvp and it's a dyable recolor of the second the set.
There is also the Explorer's Set from 1.0, which contains the Red Onion Helm, much of this set is Tanks only, but those Gaskins also confirm that those items are still in Quick Venture Rotation.

I do agree I would love to see it as a Limited Job, but it's really hard to say how they could approach it in this game.

Can't wear, don't care.

But being serious here. I HAVE one of these but cant wear it :V so i'm all down to see more access for this neat helm

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Originally Posted by Alchemii

Funny thing about that. We actually have 2, technically 3, Onion Knight sets in the game already.
The first set is from 1.0, which with this confirms you can get all but the helmet from Quick Ventures, the Helmet you can only get if you bought the Collector's Edition of 1.0. It is for all classes.
The second set is from Labyrinth of the Ancients and it was Drg only, but has been updated to allow Rpr to wear it now as well.
The technical third set is from pvp and it's a dyable recolor of the second the set.
There is also the Explorer's Set from 1.0, which contains the Red Onion Helm, much of this set is Tanks only, but those Gaskins also confirm that those items are still in Quick Venture Rotation.

I do agree I would love to see it as a Limited Job, but it's really hard to say how they could approach it in this game.

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I want them to make it a weird gimmick job in terms of how you level it by making it like FFT WotL onion knight where it's levels are based on the levels of all your other jobs. So you don't level it directly.

Lots of people already start leveling all the jobs so I think it would fit in nicely with that. But I could see people being upset about having to level jobs they don't like to level the funny limited job.

As for what makes it special? Wearing any combination of any gear in the game would be a great start, the ultimate glam job I suppose.

Otherwise I'd like to build a deck of actions like BLU but made up of the actions I've currently learned from all other jobs I've been playing.

Onion Knights ARE supposed to become overpowered after all.

Edit; lol so what I'm saying is 2.0 cross classing: the job

My kingdom for a Peregrine Helm

Not quite the Peregrine Helm, but I did just get the Onion Doublet.
https://i.imgur.com/en6WSQu.png

It's exciting to see that these are still dropping from quick ventures.

I have over 500 quick ventures as a level 10 Rogue item level 1.
Unfortunately, all I ever got was item level 90 and below gear excluding any item level 52 gear, Peregrine Helm, or the Onion armor pieces. I also got a ton of furniture and crafting materials. I'm wondering if I should level to level 49 or 50.

Please share with us your retainer setup (Job, Level, Item Level) for when you got your Onion Armor piece.

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Originally Posted by Keisar

It's exciting to see that these are still dropping from quick ventures.

I have over 500 quick ventures as a level 10 Rogue item level 1.
Unfortunately, all I ever got was item level 90 and below gear excluding any item level 52 gear, Peregrine Helm, or the Onion armor pieces. I also got a ton of furniture and crafting materials. I'm wondering if I should level to level 49 or 50.

Please share with us your retainer setup (Job, Level, Item Level) for when you got your Onion Armor piece.

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My doublet was obtained by a Miner retainer in the early level 90s (I don't remember their exact level, I wasn't expecting to have a decent shot at any uniques as I was using Quick Ventures to level them to 100)

They were wearing Indagator gear except for no accesories (blank slots there), which put them at item level 361.

I got the Red Onion Helm from a Quick Venture a few months ago, just before Dawntrail. I can't wear it now, of course, but that is still in the loot table.

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Originally Posted by Keisar

It's exciting to see that these are still dropping from quick ventures.

I have over 500 quick ventures as a level 10 Rogue item level 1.
Unfortunately, all I ever got was item level 90 and below gear excluding any item level 52 gear, Peregrine Helm, or the Onion armor pieces. I also got a ton of furniture and crafting materials. I'm wondering if I should level to level 49 or 50.

Please share with us your retainer setup (Job, Level, Item Level) for when you got your Onion Armor piece.

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I ended up getting my Gaskins on a lvl 100 btn. I heard someone theorizing that we should get an increased chance at the Peregrine Helm and other Onion Gear so long as your below lvl 50, but considering I'm mostly getting the same lvl 90 gear as you it looks like that might not be the case.

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Originally Posted by Keisar

It's exciting to see that these are still dropping from quick ventures.

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There has been screenshots posted for years, despite the widespread misinfo that they were removed back when they redid how the venture coffer works.

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Originally Posted by Keisar

I have over 500 quick ventures as a level 10 Rogue item level 1.

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I did a few thousand below level 50 with full inventory and armoury. The loot tables do have rules. These items are not subject to those relevant rules as far as i can tell.

Also, I'm not sure how many you've done, but my going rate per 1.0 item is somewhere around every 7000-10000 quick ventures. I'm pretty sure i've vendored some of the ilvl52 gear. So, I'm not really confident if its closer to 7000 or 10000.