We got Mahjong - Could we please get poker? (Request)

In the spirit of embracing the East, the Dev team put in Mahjong.
Now that we are in the new world I'd appreciate a similar nod to the West.
With some Texas Holdem Poker. (Shaaloani Holdem Poker)

It's all I can think about when in Shaaloani. It's the quintessential cowboy game.

I'd love to see it a suit of cards in the Final Fantasy style.

Hopefully, others feel the same. :)

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And it doesn't have to be real money, Gil or even MGP. Just make it chips and how you place is the MGP reward you get at the end. So if you're the last person standing you can win a big pot of MGP like iunno 10,000 MGP if you exit first you get less.

No Gambling is required.

Yoshi has talked about this before and it's not possible as the ratings board would likely consider it gambling and it would affect the games rating. I believe this was talked about at either a live letter or one of the fanfests, but I can't find it right now. The only thing I can find is from an official blog post regarding mahjong:

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/002618.html

""Can you guys see if we can put mahjong in FFXIV?"

Those were his words! FFXIV and... mahjong? Well, this was a request from the director and producer himself, so naturally the dev. team began to look into it. It required a bit of extensive investigation though, as FFXIV is a global game and regulations differ across regions.

Sure, it may seem like a harmless addition, but different countries and cultures have different perceptions on games that could be considered "gambling". This is why Yoshi-P's original idea to implement poker in FFXIV hasn't come to fruition yet, but he's thinking about putting it in one way or another...

When we found that we could indeed add mahjong to the game without legal or rating concerns, the UI team got very excited - "We'll do it!", they shouted. (Or so Project Manager U tells us!)

I just want them to add lump sum of MGP for Mahjong based on game lenght. It would be really nice way to grind MGP.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

Yoshi has talked about this before and it's not possible as the ratings board would likely consider it gambling and it would affect the games rating. I believe this was talked about at either a live letter or one of the fanfests, but I can't find it right now. The only thing I can find is from an official blog post regarding mahjong:

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/002618.html

""Can you guys see if we can put mahjong in FFXIV?"

Those were his words! FFXIV and... mahjong? Well, this was a request from the director and producer himself, so naturally the dev. team began to look into it. It required a bit of extensive investigation though, as FFXIV is a global game and regulations differ across regions.

Sure, it may seem like a harmless addition, but different countries and cultures have different perceptions on games that could be considered "gambling". This is why Yoshi-P's original idea to implement poker in FFXIV hasn't come to fruition yet, but he's thinking about putting it in one way or another...

When we found that we could indeed add mahjong to the game without legal or rating concerns, the UI team got very excited - "We'll do it!", they shouted. (Or so Project Manager U tells us!)

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Aaaw that's such a shame.

Well thank you for pointing this out I appreciate it.

I'm hoping maybe they can find some work around for it though. If Mahjong can make it hopefully we could also get Poker.

blame the europoops, its why there's no game corner in pokemon anymore

tbh i find it slightly insane how the pokemon game corner (which only used in-game pokemon money which you could easily grind from trainer battles + the amulet coin) was banned but mobile pay-to-win gacha games that require REAL CURRENCY are allowed. and before anyone says it's because it's a children's game: roblox exists and has similar predatory practices

almost like the "no gambling" thing for video games is just virtue signaling

I'd be more for Shogi.
XIV would be the idea angle for me to learn about this, plus I figure Kugane has a few folks who would play it.

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Originally Posted by HisuianMiqote

tbh i find it slightly insane how the pokemon game corner (which only used in-game pokemon money which you could easily grind from trainer battles + the amulet coin) was banned but mobile pay-to-win gacha games that require REAL CURRENCY are allowed. and before anyone says it's because it's a children's game: roblox exists and has similar predatory practices

almost like the "no gambling" thing for video games is just virtue signaling

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#1: I agree.

#2: Your forum signature made me laugh so hard at work everyone looked at me. So, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Nadda

In the spirit of embracing the East, the Dev team put in Mahjong.
Now that we are in the new world I'd appreciate a similar nod to the West.
With some Texas Holdem Poker.

It's all I can think about when Shaaloani. It's the quintessential cowboy game.

I'd love to see it a suit of cards in the Final Fantasy style.

Hopefully, others feel the same. :)

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That would both fit the lore and be great fun.

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Originally Posted by HisuianMiqote

tbh i find it slightly insane how the pokemon game corner (which only used in-game pokemon money which you could easily grind from trainer battles + the amulet coin) was banned but mobile pay-to-win gacha games that require REAL CURRENCY are allowed. and before anyone says it's because it's a children's game: roblox exists and has similar predatory practices

almost like the "no gambling" thing for video games is just virtue signaling

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Gacha actually makes the publishers money. So they'll bribe as many lawmakers as possible to keep that printing machine going. Putting a fun little minigame in some otherwise popular game that would be bought with, or without, the minigame? Nah nobody cares.

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Originally Posted by Nadda

In the spirit of embracing the East, the Dev team put in Mahjong.
Now that we are in the new world I'd appreciate a similar nod to the West.
With some Texas Holdem Poker.

It's all I can think about when Shaaloani. It's the quintessential cowboy game.

I'd love to see it a suit of cards in the Final Fantasy style.

Hopefully, others feel the same. :)

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Shaaloani Holdem

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Originally Posted by Chasingstars

Shaaloani Holdem

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Exactly! Shaaloni Holdem!

And it doesn't have to be real money, or even MGP. Just make it chips and how you place is the MGP reward you get at the end. So if you're the last person standing you can win a big pot of MGP like iunno 10,000 MGP if you exit first you get less.

No Gambling is required.

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Originally Posted by Nadda

Exactly! Shaaloni Holdem!

And it doesn't have to be real money, or even MGP. Just make it chips and how you place is the MGP reward you get at the end. So if you're the last person standing you can win a big pot of MGP like iunno 10,000 MGP if you exit first you get less.

No Gambling is required.

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100 chips for each player, chips are only used for this game. If a player wins, they get 2500 mgp. As I know texas holdem matches can be pretty quick.

Yeah, I think if you make the betting with just chips and you get an MGP reward for how well you do it removes the gambling aspect of it.

I for one normally never play poker for real stakes myself just play with chips.

And Texas Holdem you are right is designed to be played quickly, It is the original true cowboy poker, because it was made for when you had too many players but not enough cards.
Shaaloni being on the frontier as it were would totally be like that.

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Originally Posted by Nadda

In the spirit of embracing the East, the Dev team put in Mahjong.
Now that we are in the new world I'd appreciate a similar nod to the West.
With some Texas Holdem Poker. (Shaaloani Holdem Poker)

It's all I can think about when in Shaaloani. It's the quintessential cowboy game.

I'd love to see it a suit of cards in the Final Fantasy style.

Hopefully, others feel the same. :)

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And it doesn't have to be real money, Gil or even MGP. Just make it chips and how you place is the MGP reward you get at the end. So if you're the last person standing you can win a big pot of MGP like iunno 10,000 MGP if you exit first you get less.

No Gambling is required.

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Sad part is, back in the day many JRPG's did add poker or card games like it to their single player jrpgs, yet that doesn't happen as much or at all anymore, and apparently it applies to MMOs despite its core playerbase being adults.

I can enjoy a good Poker sim myself, but I don't see it happening here. Walking that fine line between gambling and not gambling.