Syrcus tower is currently broken

Hello! I'll be making this short.

This is to let you know that if you ever happen to queue into the Syrcus tower, there's a current bug with the third boss wherein the ice block mechanic doesn't work completely, resulting in instant wipes.

A report bug have been sent to the devs, but for the time being there's no known method to get around this bug, which made me see the vote abandon feature for the first time.

A friend of mine said after wiping twice they managed to beat it by dpsing Amon down before the mechanic that wipes the party.

how can they mess up an old raid that has been around for a while with something like that?

somehow... my hopes for DawnTrail, as low as they were.... have dropped further.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

how can they mess up an old raid that has been around for a while with something like that?

somehow... my hopes for DawnTrail, as low as they were.... have dropped further.

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It's worth noting the entire dps in the alliance raid were either Pictomancers or Vipers. I'm not sure if the ice block targets dps only, but if it does, it could explain why the system might not recognize these new jobs entirely.

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

It's worth noting the entire dps in the alliance raid were either Pictomancers or Vipers. I'm not sure if the ice block targets dps only, but if it does, it could explain why the system might not recognize these new jobs entirely.

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Sounds like it, because usually it targets the healers (cause it seemingly always targets me only on white mage or scholar.) If the AI script can't find a healer, it might be skipping it.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Sounds like it, because usually it targets the healers (cause it seemingly always targets me only on white mage or scholar.) If the AI script can't find a healer, it might be skipping it.

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We had white mages and scholars as healers. So it's not simply one job where it might be justified. It's a really weird bug

It's really weird, didn't expect there to be weird bugs like this tbh

You can "cheese" it by having a healer in each alliance die, have the 2nd healer rez them (but don't take it) and a tank die (but not taking the rez) and immediately rez while the cast is finishing. Requires some coordination, but we did it once and I've seen it done a couple of times.

Amon (Insanity).

Had a fun wipe experience here not too long ago.

I did it with a group, we paused DPS on him when he was at 35%, killed all the adds, and then just went ham on him. It was a photo finish, the animation went off but he died first.

It's not a bug, it's a way to filter out people who faceroll the CT raids. You wanted challenge, well here you go. Enjoy your DPS check :^)

I went to the Sycrus Tower twice today with my new Viper. The first group couldn't defeat the second to last boss. Instead of repeating the game, this group was disbanded. After a total of one hour, I waited another 30 minutes in the alliance raid. The second to last boss froze as expected, but without the necessary ice block that protects against his strongest attack. Another wipe and another hour wasted unnecessarily by disbanding the group.
Absolute botch by Square Enix: How can it be that old, absolutely safe content is suddenly buggy?

Square enix is a small indie company and they recently had massive layoffs. Someone must have accidentally taken the ice blocks with them when they left.

Ice spells missing sounds like the dying curse of every unhappy BLM main.

Also had Syrcus today. Feels bad waiting for an raid just to have everyone disband at the start.

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

We had white mages and scholars as healers. So it's not simply one job where it might be justified. It's a really weird bug

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Hmm, there must be something triggering it if they didn't actually change the Syrcus tower AI scripts. Maybe they changed the ID number of the ice attack in the casting list and thus the client isn't showing it at all, but the server is still "doing it", just nobody is seeing it happen.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Hmm, there must be something triggering it if they didn't actually change the Syrcus tower AI scripts. Maybe they changed the ID number of the ice attack in the casting list and thus the client isn't showing it at all, but the server is still "doing it", just nobody is seeing it happen.

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more than likely, the boss mained BLM this expansion and.. well... you know...

You can kinda cheese past it if you have most of the healers die, get the raise buff roughly around when Amon casts curtain call, wait for it to just go off and then dead heals take the rez, and begin raising sacked healers plus tanks.

It took effort to do that though, and that doesn't include the juggling of constant frog debuff, adds, bombs, -aga spams, and Amon clearly on your healer butt in aggro if tanks die again. :')

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

more than likely, the boss mained BLM this expansion and.. well... you know...

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Yep, I think I'm right here:
https://i.ibb.co/mGp8mCM/image.png
The players aren't being frozen with the "ice chunk" with Blizzaga Forte
https://i.ibb.co/rGjQSXy/image.png

This doesn't feel like an intentional change, since the only way past requires a paladin to protect the healer, but then when you try to do anything as a healer you get turned into a frog before you get to cast. This group could only get at most two players back up after curtain call.

And if anyone wants to actually see the fight in case y'all think this was an intentional change:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIJdFhJafic

This is hilarious but yeah it is probably getting an error when it tries to reference the job id of vipers and pictomancers when it targets players for the ice blocks, making it not happen xD

Squex leaves its old content in the dust and forgets about it with disdain. This might not be fixed until 9.0.

I mean, Choco medica was from what, HW? And it never, ever worked until this last patch xD

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

how can they mess up an old raid that has been around for a while with something like that?

somehow... my hopes for DawnTrail, as low as they were.... have dropped further.

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The frick is with people like you?

Have you EVER in your life heard the term "bug"? Sometimes unexpected stuff happens when you change something in the system.

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Originally Posted by Shialan

The frick is with people like you?

Have you EVER in your life heard the term "bug"? Sometimes unexpected stuff happens when you change something in the system.

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the tower was part of the raid series released in 2014...

since it is required as part of progression, it should have been checked. yes, I work with software and I am familiar with "bugs" as well as what software changes can do. I am also familiar with a process called Quality Assurance. the purpose of QA is to make sure that 10 year old content works with the new changes, especially if it is required to progress a character through the story, like the Crystal Tower series is.

It's not a Syrcus Tower bug, it's an ice bug.

■ Issues in the following duties wherein mechanics related to freezing are not functioning correctly, and in some cases, preventing further progression.

Syrcus Tower / Dragonsong's Reprise (Ultimate) / The Minstrel's Ballad: Shinryu's Domain / Delubrum Reginae (Savage)

I got it for my first PCT roulette. A WHM ended up soloing him from 10-15% to dead by running in a circle and keeping Aero II up. Appropriately, the title they had on was Epic Hero.

Or you could say this is a case of git gud and you failed the enrage.

Doing enough DPS you can bypass this.

Obviously since everybody and their mothers are on the new DPS jobs which they haven't mastered yet this can happen.

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Originally Posted by Wildheaven182

This is hilarious but yeah it is probably getting an error when it tries to reference the job id of vipers and pictomancers when it targets players for the ice blocks, making it not happen xD

Squex leaves its old content in the dust and forgets about it with disdain. This might not be fixed until 9.0.

I mean, Choco medica was from what, HW? And it never, ever worked until this last patch xD

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Choco medical was a skill from an optional system. You can pretty much level up from 1 to 100 nowadays without ever using your chocobo, hence the priority will be less than urgent.

On the other hand, Amon's a boss in a mandatory alliance raid to progress the story, and with a lot of people queueing for the alliance roulette to level up. It should be a high priority to fix him. Otherwise, a lot of new players will struggle to advance beyond the Syrcus tower.

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Originally Posted by GlowClam

Absolute botch by Square Enix: How can it be that old, absolutely safe content is suddenly buggy?

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This happens more frequently than you would think. Usually it's because old, absolutely safe content is viewed as absolutely safe, something gets overlooked when making a coding edit in the future, and because it's exactly the mindset that it's "old and absolutely safe" that the newly introduced bug isn't picked up until things go live. Something this significant will get fixed quickly.

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

It's not a Syrcus Tower bug, it's an ice bug.

■ Issues in the following duties wherein mechanics related to freezing are not functioning correctly, and in some cases, preventing further progression.

Syrcus Tower / Dragonsong's Reprise (Ultimate) / The Minstrel's Ballad: Shinryu's Domain / Delubrum Reginae (Savage)

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Yeah. Pretty much the iceblock never drops.

I just had a run were the ice mechanic worked again.
Anyone also had that or is it random now?

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

SE just announced it's been fixed without needing to take the servers offline (probably because it's an instance specifically).

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Ah I see. Thanks for the info.

SE just announced it's been fixed without needing to take the servers offline (probably because it's an instance specifically).