2.0 Beta Character Usage

There is so much information on 2.0 right now I don't know where to begin, so Im going to ask and hope someone can answer or make an educated speculation:

Will our current characters be usable in beta? (I hear people say most likely no, but then this brings the question of... Do we have to pay the monthly fee then? Because we are playing beta characters that will most likely get wiped and replaced with our current characters.)

I love the game and have played and subscribed since day one, but I may temporarily stop my subscription during beta if it means I am paying to "test" a game, rather wait for the excitement of discovering on my permanent character.

Anyone have news???

im 100% sure were going to have to make new characters for beta if we get in, during the beta we'll be getting our character data converted to 2.0's system so no way to play with them. i know they wont charge us for the downtime.

Players that have been given access to the beta will start with fresh characters. Our 1.0 characters won't carry over into the beta, but will be there when 2.0 lunches officially. I am basing this off of what Yoshi-P said in some interviews at E3.

Edit: Here is a thread I made asking about this a while back: Will there be a wipe between 2.0 beta and 2.0 live

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Originally Posted by Senuska

Players that have been given access to the beta will start with fresh characters. Our 1.0 characters won't carry over into the beta, but will be there when 2.0 lunches officially. I am basing this off of what Yoshi-P said in some interviews at E3[/URL]

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I read that differently... He says in the interviews that it will take up to 'one month' to transfer all the character data. I read this as our current characters will be transferred into the 2.0 client and playable in Beta, but it will take up to one month to get everyone's characters over?

Edit: Yeah, went over it again, and i still read it that way, unless you can deliver me a quote that says specifically otherwise. Our current characters will be current in 2.0 and will not wipe at official launch. But for some of us, our data will be ready after a few days, and for others it won't be ready till November, and then we still have to be chosen to play the beta. ... Then, i'm guessing characters will be transferred over as they are chosen.

Beta is still over 6 months away (Japan Expo presentation announced "Winter 2012"), there is just no point in trying to assume things at this point. What will exactly happen with beta phases and our data is most likely not even final for SE. So yeah trying to understand what will happen in over 6 months time when even SE have probably no idea, good luck with that...

Just be patient and wait for announcements. What would it change anyway to know now what will happen exactly :s

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

I read that differently... He says in the interviews that it will take up to 'one month' to transfer all the character data. I read this as our current characters will be transferred into the 2.0 client and playable in Beta, but it will take up to one month to get everyone's characters over?

Edit: Yeah, went over it again, and i still read it that way, unless you can deliver me a quote that says specifically otherwise. Our current characters will be current in 2.0 and will not wipe at official launch. But for some of us, our data will be ready after a few days, and for others it won't be ready till November, and then we still have to be chosen to play the beta. ... Then, i'm guessing characters will be transferred over as they are chosen.

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You two are agreeing.

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Originally Posted by Antipika

Beta is still over 6 months away (Japan Expo presentation announced "Winter 2012"), there is just no point in trying to assume things at this point. What will exactly happen with beta phases and our data is most likely not even final for SE. So yeah trying to understand what will happen in over 6 months time when even SE have probably no idea, good luck with that...

Just be patient and wait for announcements. What would it change anyway to know now what will happen exactly :s

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According to this... its mid november.

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Originally Posted by Funky

According to this... its mid november.

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And "this" is outdated. Latest presentation is Japan Expo and it says Winter 2012. And I don't see the information at Japan Expo being incorrect knowing that Yoshida was on stage and announced it himself.

Sept-Oct 2012:
Alpha test on our new servers

Winter 2012:
Beginning of beta test

(Oh yeah I speak French and that's a translation obviously the presentation was done in French).

how can it be over 6 months away when there are only 5 months left in the year?

Because Winter means anywhere between Dec 21st to March 19th? It's just a way to say Q1 2013 without saying "2013".

And 5 or 6 months doesn't matter anyway... that's still way too far to have all details now.

I hope not. I want to look forward to getting my character back after the beta phase.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

I hope not. I want to look forward to getting my character back after the beta phase.

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I don't know how much I want to play without my actual character though... I'll definitely try all the new starting quests and stuff but I'd like to experience those when the new classes come out (yeah right).

I might just use that time to take a good break.

They will not let us without our char during 6 month, for sure. Too many people could not come back after 6 month.
If alpha start in october, we will get ou char back in november.

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Originally Posted by Colino

I don't know how much I want to play without my actual character though... I'll definitely try all the new starting quests and stuff but I'd like to experience those when the new classes come out (yeah right).

I might just use that time to take a good break.

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Well, I have all DoM/DoW classes at 50, so I'm excited to get to experience leveling in new zones. I refuse to touch crafting though, because that's for my main guy.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Well, I have all DoM/DoW classes at 50, so I'm excited to get to experience leveling in new zones. I refuse to touch crafting though, because that's for my main guy.

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My plan was to get everything to 50 before 2.0, but I might leave Armorer for last so I can do that with the new system and see how it goes. And if the starter quests end up having achievements (they probably will) then I'd rather do them on my main character.

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Originally Posted by Colino

My plan was to get everything to 50 before 2.0, but I might leave Armorer for last so I can do that with the new system and see how it goes. And if the starter quests end up having achievements (they probably will) then I'd rather do them on my main character.

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Why not just finish everything, who knows if they'll add a new craft anyway.

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Originally Posted by Colino

My plan was to get everything to 50 before 2.0, but I might leave Armorer for last so I can do that with the new system and see how it goes. And if the starter quests end up having achievements (they probably will) then I'd rather do them on my main character.

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Well, you can still probably do those on your main guy, they'd just be super easy.

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Originally Posted by TaalAzura

Why not just finish everything, who knows if they'll add a new craft anyway.

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I don't think they would do that by 2.0 launch though? I do hope they add another DoL though, that Shepard would be interesting.

I'll keep doing what I'm doing. I like to level my crafts in big bursts (save up lots of rested and then burn 30-40 leves a day or more).

i'd definitely advise knocking out as many crafts as possible now, just because there are appears to be a 'material boom' if you will, due to the heavy harvesting/relic weapon activity. not to say it won't be just as easy when 2.0 starts, but it's really easy now and cheap. this is coming from someone who hated crafting.

Let me make an assumption here.

The purpose of beta-testing is finding out bugs, errors, exploits and stress-testing.
So it would make sense if they want us to test everything out from the very beginning. They also said that they do not want us to continue updating our characters otherwise the transfer into the 2.0 system would be impossible.

So i'm going to guess we're going to have to make new characters for the beta, if we make it into the beta.

so, our characters will carry over to 2.0 but aren't they adding new races and such. If so, would we be able to edit our current characters with the new additions??

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Originally Posted by Takeshi_Eiketsu

There is so much information on 2.0 right now I don't know where to begin, so Im going to ask and hope someone can answer or make an educated speculation:

Will our current characters be usable in beta? (I hear people say most likely no, but then this brings the question of... Do we have to pay the monthly fee then? Because we are playing beta characters that will most likely get wiped and replaced with our current characters.)

I love the game and have played and subscribed since day one, but I may temporarily stop my subscription during beta if it means I am paying to "test" a game, rather wait for the excitement of discovering on my permanent character.

Anyone have news???

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I seriously doubt you will have to keep paying your monthly subscription during the beta month (or however long it'll be). That would be madness. The only sensible thing would be to stop billing when the beta starts, then resume billing after your free v2 month is over.

Using your current characters during beta is obviously not going to be possible, both due to the database conversion process, and the fact that whatever items or quests you do in the beta test might be significantly changed in the final version, and because we might even get some corrupted character data, depending on how stable the servers are.

We are testing the stability and efficiency of their servers, after all. That means our characters are stored on potentially unstable servers. If we get data corruption during the beta process and were using our "real" characters, we might get in a situation where our character data became corrupted and unusable in v2. That's not something I would want to risk, and SE probably doesn't want to risk it either, considering it would be their support centers that would be flooded by desperate players who lost their alljobslv50 characters.

Cool, Thanks for all the info, It was helpful to see that most people felt or thought the same way I did.


(Now if a dev would post with information, considering we are one patch away from imminent beta doom.) /prod /prod

The official word on this is already out

1) we will not be able to use our characters for beta, we will need to make new ones
2) our characters will become available one month or so after beta begins, this is due to character transfering data to 2.0 format

no data will be lost, we just wont be able to use them at the start of BETA, and BETA will not carry over til 2.0 anyway

there's no point allowing us to use our character in beta. the point of beta is to test.

it may be useful for balancing high level content. but this is already established. it has not been stated they are changin any formulas (damage, enmity, etc.) so this is a bit moot.

re-rolling a character forces testers to use the new UI for this. this is important to test.

progress made in beta phase will not be 'saved.'

1) gives an unfair advantage to those who get in beta vs. those who don't
2)it's been stated in a couple interviews that players will not be allowed to play and make progress during beta (implies you must roll a new character if you are in beta because progress in beta is not saved)
3)force testers to see new UI for low level content. (which will be important for hooking new players, IE: important for success of game)

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I'm assuming you've never been in a beta before.

it is 100% normal to wipe characters played in the beta phase. very very very rarely does a company allow you to keep a character you played during beta. If anything, you will get a cool little achievement or vanity something or other. SE is not likely to do this though. IE: what happens in beta stays in beta. any progress made during beta will be wiped. all progress made before beta will be saved and be again available at the launch of 2.0. the point of beta is to test the new UI and smooth things over and find any ground breaking bugs. (IE: i pull up a widget and try to teleport to a node. doing so causes the game to crash and display error:123123XAsdfa;lsomethingsomething.)

once the servers go down, subs will stop. it makes no sense to continue to pay. if you are in beta, you will not have to pay to test the game. that's just silly. it makes no sense to make your customers pay when you know servers will be down for months. again, that's just silly.

it's been stated there will be a 'trial' period once 2.0 goes live. this will draw in old players looking to check out the new interface. those of us who have already decided to play will likely get a free month. (we're going to be paying eventually anyway, so SE doesn't really lose anything by doing this)

http://gdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Roadmap_EN.pdf

If you look at the roadmap, porting of data began back in march. the servers will go down in november(ish). it's been said that 2.0 will officially launch early next year. so that's 2-3 months of 'reboot' it will likely take at least a week or two to reboot the servers and do initial testing before they go 'live.' in debug mode to allow beta to truly begin. so we're looking at 1.5-2.5 months of actual beta testing. there may or may not be an open beta to stress test servers. (hasn't been stated.)

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Originally Posted by Antipika

And "this" is outdated. Latest presentation is Japan Expo and it says Winter 2012. And I don't see the information at Japan Expo being incorrect knowing that Yoshida was on stage and announced it himself.

Sept-Oct 2012:
Alpha test on our new servers

Winter 2012:
Beginning of beta test

(Oh yeah I speak French and that's a translation obviously the presentation was done in French).

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Is this newly corrected information related to the PC beta test or the PS3 beta test?
Because i didnt read anything sayin neither.

I just find it odd, he claims they're still on track, yet havent bothered to update the time schedule on the pdf files.

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Originally Posted by Funky

Is this newly corrected information related to the PC beta test or the PS3 beta test?
Because i didnt read anything sayin neither.

I just find it odd, he claims they're still on track, yet havent bothered to update the time schedule on the pdf files.

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Ya I would find it odd that 1.23 and 2.0 beta is 5 months when all other patches were so much closer together.

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Originally Posted by Funky

Is this newly corrected information related to the PC beta test or the PS3 beta test?
Because i didnt read anything sayin neither.

I just find it odd, he claims they're still on track, yet havent bothered to update the time schedule on the pdf files.

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Pretty sure it's PS3 Beta which was always slated for winter and PC was right after Alpha testing which he said will last a short time.

yes sooo much info!~ that was a joke right? lol

But, no, our chars. Are not going to be used in beta. During the beta time they are going to be transfering our chars. to the new servers. We will be starting from scratch. Those beta chars. Will not be used in the final product either as far as I can understand.

No, we wont be paying for the game when these servers close, there will also be a free month after the beta.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Pretty sure it's PS3 Beta which was always slated for winter and PC was right after Alpha testing which he said will last a short time.

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If that's true then the pdf files are still valid in terms of the timeline.
Wich would be spanktastic, however....im not keeping my hopes up.

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Originally Posted by Funky

If that's true then the pdf files are still valid in terms of the timeline.
Wich would be spanktastic, however....im not keeping my hopes up.

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Yeah..I'm sure he would have updated the PDFs like he did with the trailer/promotion in August being added onto it.

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

Ya I would find it odd that 1.23 and 2.0 beta is 5 months when all other patches were so much closer together.

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I don't see what's odd with an alpha phase lasting 3 months. In the presentation alpha is said to be due for end of september.

End of september => winter for an alpha seems realistic. We had a little less than 3 months of alpha before. Anyway Gamescom is just around the corner, pretty certain we will have a more detailed schedule then.

{Hmmm....}