#FFXIVSUMMONERSSTRIKE

WHERE ARE THE SUMMONS AT???

BOOKS IN THE AIR EVERYONE!!!

WE FIGHT AS ONE!!!

chill you got new toy to play with look at healers they are starving

You know what, of all these mock threads based on the healer one, this actually has some standing.
Completely and utterly gutted from what it used to be, egi glams turned out to just be carbuncles. I can completely sympathize with you getting screwed over and jerked around.

Be a good little Summoner and play quietly with your picturebook.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

You know what, of all these mock threads based on the healer one, this actually has some standing.
Completely and utterly gutted from what it used to be, egi glams turned out to just be carbuncles. I can completely sympathize with you getting screwed over and jerked around.

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I like Summoner more now than I ever have before, and I've played it since 2014. Sometimes miss Earth Pet tanking for soloing but meh.

Summoner just now seems to be the go-to DPS for people learning mechanics or who just don't feel like playing anything too challenging at a given moment. I see more summoners now than I ever did in the past.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I see more summoners now than I ever did in the past.

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I see them a lot more now too. Right up until they pull out Titan and blind me.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

I see them a lot more now too. Right up until they pull out Titan and blind me.

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As Summoner is my main DPS and always has been, I refuse to make them smaller. I had a 24 man with 6 summoners and I couldn't see anything at all.

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Originally Posted by Tunda

chill you got new toy to play with look at healers they are starving

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tbh Summoners didnt get a new toy, they just got a recolor reskin old toy Honestly although this may be a mock its a mock I agree with They should have gave summoner alexander/animaark anything outside of another bahamut... and granted levi/ramuha and shiva

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

As Summoner is my main DPS and always has been, I refuse to make them smaller. I had a 24 man with 6 summoners and I couldn't see anything at all.

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It's not the size. It's the flashbang.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

It's not the size. It's the flashbang.

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Standing in the middle of 6 Bahamuts flapping also doesn't help lol.

Summoner strike? I thought I didn't have to worry about meleeing the boss during instants anymore..

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Originally Posted by Tunda

chill you got new toy to play with look at healers they are starving

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Summoners didn't get anything after their job was lobotomized. I think their complains are quite justified

Well I will say I am not happy about a Bahamut reskin that in my own opinion looks terrible and would have vastly preferred Alexander or Odin or even just swapping out Garuda/Titan/Ifirit for Levithan/Ramuh/Shiva. I want to go play an actual summoner so I am trying to figure out how to install FFXI again. I did it once I can do it again.

Good luck to ya all.

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Originally Posted by Yuiui

WHERE ARE THE SUMMONS AT???

BOOKS IN THE AIR EVERYONE!!!

WE FIGHT AS ONE!!!

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I skipped the strike and quit the job during Endwalker.

*lifts up Codex*
I already am raising my book in anger in a different thread, might as well do it here too in support.

Jokes aside, one thing I don't like is how carbuncle doesn't do anything, or if it does anything, it feels more like an inconvenience.

With raid buff casting from the player and not the carbuncle now, the only skill we cast with carbuncle is the barrier.

Problem is that it doesn't feel like the carbuncle is giving us the barrier, but more like they're hindering us from casting the barrier as we can't use the barrier when it's gone.

I feel like they may as well just have the barrier up all the time like Searing Light just so we don't get annoyed at our cat.

I'm definitely not going to play it at first. I wouldn't say I'm striking. Yeah, Solar Baha is super lame. But we basically got nothing. That's more my issue than a lazy Baha reskin.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

As Summoner is my main DPS and always has been, I refuse to make them smaller. I had a 24 man with 6 summoners and I couldn't see anything at all.

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Size of the summon is displayed per user. Ex: I have them set to small so no matter what you have them set at they're smaller for me.

bigger issue than the healer one tbh, i don't even care for Summoner, and I still feel disappointed, by what the job gets.

My carbuncle got turned into a fighting game assist waiting to be called in.

I miss DoT Mage :/

Poor summoners, I kinda wish you all would have gotten more eggies honestly

SB SMN when? :(

I feel sorry for one of my friends who's very dedicated to Summoner.

He liked playing Summoner because it used to have depth. He enjoyed applying 2 dots and pet positioning. He really wants to be a DPS with summons.

Now Summoner is purely aesthetic. Pets don't interact. Play like generic DPS, but without depth.

He had no choice but to unsub.

Why tf did they give summonere ANOTHER Bahamut and not more primals? Shiva? Leviathan? Ramuh? So many to give.

As a melee dps please go on strike. I’m tired of having Titan’s ass in my face every time I try to fight a boss I’m a raid

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Originally Posted by Tunda

chill you got new toy to play with look at healers they are starving

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Summoners new Toy also has a strong AOE oGCD heal lol.

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Originally Posted by Xactly

My carbuncle got turned into a fighting game assist waiting to be called in.

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Pan-Roasted Carbuncle with a side of Baked Eggplant. - Delicious!

Let's be honest though with these strikes, a TON of people are gonna be trying Viper and Picto tomorrow.

I'll get around to my SMN eventually, but its not a priority. Even with all the changes (or lack thereof) I've always liked the mobility, respectable DPS, and utility SMN provides.

It's a shame they couldnt be more creative with the new summon than a reskinned Bahamut.

Summoner is the only dps job that I feel absolutely sorry for. The rework placed them in the same trash tier gameplay as the healer role.

With about 30 minutes of prep-time, you can macro SMN's entire rotation to one button which shouldn't be possible with a competent and creative dev team, but FFXIV devs are anything but that.

They should be embarrassed releasing Solar Bahamut.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

You know what, of all these mock threads based on the healer one, this actually has some standing.
Completely and utterly gutted from what it used to be, egi glams turned out to just be carbuncles. I can completely sympathize with you getting screwed over and jerked around.

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I find it personally funny that I nod at most of these "strike threads" and think "wait... they actually have a point too".
Esp SMN. Job was bled at the altar of "streamlining" and sold on empty promises and blatant lies.

This is the expansion the devs want you to throw summoner in the trash and go play pictomancer instead. Things like these are intentional sometimes. From a design perspective I don't understand how it makes sense to add another bahamut; like has summoner in FF always boiled down to "bahamut's the only thing I care about?" Someone at square enix has an extreme fascination with bahamut and it's unfortunately hurting the game; for me and many others.

I've seen my friend use summoner mods where you can summon bismark, the triad, and even Ivalice summons and it looks insane; you really get that feeling of being a summoner because of all these great choices. And the mods don't even change the way you play, it just gives us the choice to summon a lot more primals than ifrit, garuda, and titan from level 1 to level 100.

You know you can change the size of the summons right? It's all client side too so you choose the size of others summons.

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Originally Posted by dtv20

Why tf did they give summonere ANOTHER Bahamut and not more primals? Shiva? Leviathan? Ramuh? So many to give.

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Honestly this is all I want. Levi, Shiva and Ramuh… if they want to give us a million more Bahamuts after that, fine. But I want the rest of my elemental gems!

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I like Summoner more now than I ever have before, and I've played it since 2014. Sometimes miss Earth Pet tanking for soloing but meh.

Summoner just now seems to be the go-to DPS for people learning mechanics or who just don't feel like playing anything too challenging at a given moment. I see more summoners now than I ever did in the past.

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Personally I dont think any Job should be so easy that people actively pick it to learn mechanics. It doesnt need to be super hard either.

Summoner needs to be more complicated in how the job works, it needs to build up to something, have something to track and reward players by doing it correctly. Currently it doesnt do any of those thing. I really love the concept of the rework, but how it is now is not objectively good and we shouldn't be saying it is in a fine state.

Just as being too hard is a problem, being to easy is ujusst as detrimental the game as a whole.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

I see them a lot more now too. Right up until they pull out Titan and blind me.

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If you're referring to the size of the summons blocking your view, have you tried shrinking them?
/petsize all small

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Originally Posted by dtv20

You know you can change the size of the summons right? It's all client side too so you choose the size of others summons.

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OMFG I NEEDED TO KNOW THIS LIKE 2 MONTHS AGO! I like my summons BIIIIGGG and someone had complained about that in a duty a bit ago and I just ignored them but now I can help them out! Thank you for that bit of info~

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Originally Posted by Anvaire

Personally I dont think any Job should be so easy that people actively pick it to learn mechanics. It doesnt need to be super hard either.

Summoner needs to be more complicated in how the job works, it needs to build up to something, have something to track and reward players by doing it correctly. Currently it doesnt do any of those thing. I really love the concept of the rework, but how it is now is not objectively good and we shouldn't be saying it is in a fine state.

Just as being too hard is a problem, being to easy is ujusst as detrimental the game as a whole.

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I like it as is. It's flashy and relaxing and the present iteration clearly has an audience. It feels more like a ritualist now and is no longer an incoherent hodge-podge of identities like in ShB. At the time I quit in ShB, the general feedback was it wasn't worth the effort for it's sub-par results.

I know every version of the jobs has it's fans - I just have a feeling this version is a success for them.

Caveat: While this is my primary DPS role and was typically the only class outside of WhM that I'd max out, I'm still a healer main. So my opinion is probably less important than full-time DPS summoners.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Be a good little Summoner and play quietly with your picturebook.

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Pictomancer stole his crayons.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

It's not the size. It's the flashbang.

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Robot Dragon go BRRRRRRRRRRRR....

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

If you're referring to the size of the summons blocking your view, have you tried shrinking them?
/petsize all small

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No, I'lm talking about them being literally blinding.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

It's not the size. It's the flashbang.

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