I lost all my progress, what now?

I really wish I was warned of this ahead of time. Both wikis that I used never warned me about this, nor was I never notified during any of the steps of this.

So I had been working on ALL of my zodiac weapons for half a year now, I managed to get each one to it's highest level.
Completionism drives me to do the tiniest of errands just so I don't have to worry about them later.

The entire process is a massive grindfest, I had to recruit the help of other users in my fc to give me the gil and materia needed to complete certain steps.

I was under the assumption that once I got a Zodiac Weapon Zeta, I would be able to purchase replicas without needing the original copy. I didn't want the weapons taking up 8 precious slots of retainer space when I need that for crafting materials, plus you can't store the weapons in glamour dresser or armoire, so I ended up discarding them.

...Only to find out today that I can't buy the replicas without needing the original. And if I want the replicas, I need to basically do the whole entire thing all over again, 8 more times.

This whole thing could have been avoided if I had just been warned by the Wiki to never do this. Why was I able to discard the Zodiac Weapon Zetas when you NEED to hold onto them?

So at the end of the day, I've wasted tons of Gil and Time on nothing, all because I was under the assumption that they would stay unlocked. Is there anything I can do at this point? Because after all that time was wasted, I'm really unmotivated to continue playing ff14 anymore. What an absolutely baffling design choice.

Hello my love,

While I can't help out there is a one time request to SE for item(s) not sure if they would honor all of them but maybe that will help? I'd contact SE support and find out your options.

It's one time tho. SE can prob help your further. Xx

I'm not sure if SE would be able to help. Item retrieval has a time period restriction of a week, I've worked over and discarded the items far beyond that time period.

Try it chick. Who knows they may be able to help. It's account wide so I think it's over a week.

I mean I could use mine right now for my legacy stuff. Give it a whirl xx

Another thing I should point out is the fact that item reclaim won't work for items that have anything personalized. I think this also includes custom stats that you've added yourself through using sphere scrolls.

I could still try, but I doubt I'll get any headway due to both of those reasons why.

If you had a completed Zeta then you should be able to regain them from the Calamity Salvager. Best way to know if you've completed all of the steps is if you have access to the Z title.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

If you had a completed Zeta then you should be able to regain them from the Calamity Salvager. Best way to know if you've completed all of the steps is if you have access to the Z title.

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I have looked through the Calamity Salvager, as far as I remember the only Zodiac weapons that can be bought from them are the originals without any upgrades.

What i think is most baffling it's why would you ever discard an item that you spent so much blood, sweat and tears on?

Amongst piles and piles of trash you could have prioritized? Like dungeon drop, overworld drops, gear that's out of date?

> Why was i able to discard the weapon when you NEED to have them

There. Is. A. Warning. Text. Stating. That. You. Are. Discarding. An. Unique. Item.

You can discard an ultimate totem the same way you discarded your Zeta. I fail to see the difference here. If anything you're the one being unreasonable.

Also, this is ARR content. I've read somewhere that SE had plans to make Drake sell all the versions you completed, but never did it in the end so all he sells is the first level.

As people said, disregard what you think/heard about the one time item retrieval, and try it. Its your last chance really.

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Originally Posted by Neru21

What i think is most baffling it's why would you ever discard an item that you spent so much blood, sweat and tears on?

Amongst piles and piles of trash you could have prioritized? Like dungeon drop, overworld drops, gear that's out of date?

> Why was i able to discard the weapon when you NEED to have them

There. Is. A. Warning. Text. Stating. That. You. Are. Discarding. An. Unique. Item.

You can discard an ultimate totem the same way you discarded your Zeta. I fail to see the difference here. If anything you're the one being unreasonable.

Also, this is ARR content. I've read somewhere that SE had plans to make Drake sell all the versions you completed, but never did it in the end so all he sells is the first level.

As people said, disregard what you think/heard about the one time item retrieval, and try it. Its your last chance really.

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This would only work for one of them as I think the OP wants all of them back. Though I do know that you don't have to have the Zeta to buy the replica as I don't have my only Zeta that I've completed on this character anymore due to having used it to skip the fate grinding step of the Heavensward anima weapon and am able to buy a Nivana Zeta relic. So I have to assume he didn't do the final final step with his Zetas or he would be able to go and get a replica version from Drake.

To be clear you do have to be on the final product in order to have any of the earlier replicas to be purchasable from Drake.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

This would only work for one of them as I think the OP wants all of them back. Though I do know that you don't have to have the Zeta to buy the replica as I don't have my only Zeta that I've completed on this character anymore due to having used it to skip the fate grinding step of the Heavensward anima weapon and am able to buy a Nivana Zeta relic. So I have to assume he didn't do the final final step with his Zetas or he would be able to go and get a replica version from Drake.

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Would it be possible to gain access to the Zodiac Replicas again if I completed a HW Anima Relic? As its possible to give up a completed Zodiac Zeta and there wouldn't be a way to gain access to the replicas if you did that again.

I also want to confirm that I did finish every Zodiac Weapon, the last step is to complete the 12 mahatma before it can be upgraded to a Zeta.

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Originally Posted by Neru21

What i think is most baffling it's why would you ever discard an item that you spent so much blood, sweat and tears on?

Amongst piles and piles of trash you could have prioritized? Like dungeon drop, overworld drops, gear that's out of date?

> Why was i able to discard the weapon when you NEED to have them

There. Is. A. Warning. Text. Stating. That. You. Are. Discarding. An. Unique. Item.

You can discard an ultimate totem the same way you discarded your Zeta. I fail to see the difference here. If anything you're the one being unreasonable.

Also, this is ARR content. I've read somewhere that SE had plans to make Drake sell all the versions you completed, but never did it in the end so all he sells is the first level.

As people said, disregard what you think/heard about the one time item retrieval, and try it. Its your last chance really.

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There was no Warning. Theres no red text or any notices anywhere saying that I shouldn't do it.

I keep my inventory pretty clean, i do check all my mats to see if i need them later on, anything I don't need is sold. I could always buy a extra retainer, but the subscription for ff14 is already pretty expensive and I don't feel right tacking on extra costs. Is that fair for me to say?

I was under the assumption that there would be more warnings, from either the game itself or the guides I used.

I'm fully aware I made a mistake.
I'd just like to be able to buy replicas whenever I want...

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Originally Posted by Crabemporium

I also want to confirm that I did finish every Zodiac Weapon, the last step is to complete the 12 mahatma before it can be upgraded to a Zeta.

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That's not the final quest in the chain though. At that point you would have unlocked all of the other replicas but not the Zeta. I know it's weird, but it's ARR again so everything isn't how the rest of the game tends to do it. There's one last quest in the chain called the Vital Title. You wouldn't need to complete a Heavensward relic just use a completed Zeta for the 1st step. As it would end up using the completed Zeta as the turn in item. Otherwise you would have to do a grind via fates for the atma step.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

That's not the final quest in the chain though. At that point you would have unlocked all of the other replicas but not the Zeta. I know it's weird, but it's ARR again so everything isn't how the rest of the game tends to do it. There's one last quest in the chain called the Vital Title. You wouldn't need to complete a Heavensward relic just use a completed Zeta for the 1st step. As it would end up using the completed Zeta as the turn in item. Otherwise you would have to do a grind via fates for the atma step.

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Okay so thankfully I have completed Vital title, alongside Rise and Shine and Kettle to the Mettle. Once you have a Zodiac Weapon Zeta, there's no other steps to upgrade it further.
As I'm typing this I have lodged a missing item request for my discarded weapons.

Once I obtain a Animus Relic Weapon, will that unlock the ability to purchase Zodiac Weapon Replicas without needing the original? Or do I have to trade in one/all Zodiac Weapon Zetas to unlock the ability to?

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Originally Posted by Crabemporium

Okay so thankfully I have completed Vital title, alongside Rise and Shine and Kettle to the Mettle. Once you have a Zodiac Weapon Zeta, there's no other steps to upgrade it further.
As I'm typing this I have lodged a missing item request for my discarded weapons.

Once I obtain a Animus Relic Weapon, will that unlock the ability to purchase Zodiac Weapon Replicas without needing the original? Or do I have to trade in one/all Zodiac Weapon Zetas to unlock the ability to?

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I'm not sure; I would think that you don't as why would a different expansion's relic unlock the final replica stage of the previous. Especially since that's not how any of the others work. I just know that I don't have my Nirvana Zeta available and it's replica is listed in Drake's shop. I haven't gone and made any of the other ARR and Heavensward relics on this character and it has been literal years since I did multiple of the ARR on a different character. So I can't check. Wish I could help you more. Did you file a bug report? As this feels more like a bug than anything else.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

I'm not sure; I would think that you don't as why would a different expansion's relic unlock the final replica stage of the previous. Especially since that's not how any of the others work. I just know that I don't have my Nirvana Zeta available and it's replica is listed in Drake's shop. I haven't gone and made any of the other ARR and Heavensward relics on this character and it has been literal years since I did multiple of the ARR on a different character. So I can't check. Wish I could help you more. Did you file a bug report? As this feels more like a bug than anything else.

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Yeah, okay that's weird. To clear things up, Drake says that I need the Zodiac Weapon Zeta in order to access the shop.
The fact that you're able to without needing the Zeta is odd, though.
I'll see how I go with getting my items back, then I'll go through the steps to get a Anima weapon. Hopefully once I have one, I'll be able to buy Zodiac Replicas again.

If you get your Zeta back make sure to do the final quest with the NPC who upgrades it. Names starts with J across from Gerolt. A vital title I think its called. Hopefully on completion you get access to the others. Fingers and toes crossed for you.

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Originally Posted by Crabemporium

I also want to confirm that I did finish every Zodiac Weapon, the last step is to complete the 12 mahatma before it can be upgraded to a Zeta.

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The ARR relics, like much of ARR, are a bit… janky. All of the other expansions use Achievements to track what you've completed and thus what the replica vendors should offer to you.

For ARR, you need to have the completed Zeta in your inventory, or you need to have turned in the completed Zeta for the first step of the HW (Anima) relic.

I'd be surprised if completing an Anima w/o turning in a Zeta somehow unlocks the Zeta replicas.

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Originally Posted by Crabemporium

Yeah, okay that's weird. To clear things up, Drake says that I need the Zodiac Weapon Zeta in order to access the shop.
The fact that you're able to without needing the Zeta is odd, though.
I'll see how I go with getting my items back, then I'll go through the steps to get a Anima weapon. Hopefully once I have one, I'll be able to buy Zodiac Replicas again.

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Nnnnnnnnnnnope! As it turns out they need more evidence. I sent them all the information the support desk needed, Is the fact that I have the achievements not enough evidence for them, or did the endless backlog of RMT bots that I had to wade through as I was crafting the weapons clog up the chat log and push the messages far beyond the time limit?

So I guess my only chance now is to make a Anima weapon and hope that SE had the foresight to let me get access to the shop again. If not, completionism is going to irk me to re-make each and every single one of them and it may be healthier for me if I just left ff14.

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Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu

The ARR relics, like much of ARR, are a bit… janky. All of the other expansions use Achievements to track what you've completed and thus what the replica vendors should offer to you.

For ARR, you need to have the completed Zeta in your inventory, or you need to have turned in the completed Zeta for the first step of the HW (Anima) relic.

I'd be surprised if completing an Anima w/o turning in a Zeta somehow unlocks the Zeta replicas.

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That's the thing though you don't have to use your Zeta for the 1st step of making an Anima. It's an optional choice. I remember that some chose to do the fate grind because they wanted to keep the non replica version. Even if it meant they would be grumbling about having to do so.