With the new Job actions again... PLEASE bring back Job Quests!

Honestly, for a game with such a heavy focus on its lore that it's managed to publish 3 enormous encyclopedias, the lack of focus on any Job explanation anymore is felt more and more ever since they got the shaft for "Role" focuses. It's really disappointing to constantly now just guess how we've come across skills.

And yes, I know there've been comments made that "Oh, the WoL has surpassed anyone who could teach them anything" and "Oh, the WoL is just forging their own path now" but even then, it doesn't explain half the things that turn up. Even if we *are* developing things on our own, why can't that be the focus of a quest line anyway? I would much rather have less terrible side quests in a zone and have focus redirected to Job Quests properly again, if we absolutely have to give up anything.

The Job Trailer this morning alone just made it clear how much stuff comes out of nowhere with 0 explanation. What on earth is Seraphism? Where the heck did Solar Bahamut come from? The masses deserve to know! Please!

solar bahamut is a fanfic bahamut the pictomancer did

Only if they can make them actually meaningful. Some of them were getting pretty bad. Warrior played the "Curious Gorge loses control" card too much, white mage's StB story was really a conjurer quest, and paladin....well, okay, those quests were ALWAYS terrible, but still.

i really miss sidurgu.. cant we just have more adventures with them instead of being trained by them. i had really grown attached to some of them

i would really like them to merge Job quest and role quest.
where we basically have 4 quest lines but instead of roles they are assigned to multiple jobs so lets say DRK,SGE,DNC,NIN are in one batch while WAR,WHM,MCH and RDM are in another
still giving us more lore for said jobs but also adding fun or interesting character interaction between each job teacher/quest giver.

i think this is a good middle ground where they don't have to write different 17+ quest while also giving people more job specific dialogue and flavor.

I understand why they stopped with job quests. It's not very sustainable in the long run.

That being said... Instead of an obligation every expansion, I wish we actually had optional job quests when it made sense. For example, imagine a DNC quest chain in their homeland Thavnair. I feel it's kind of sad that we got to see the place and there's barely any lore referencing Dancers over there. Just a temple, a couple of dancers as background character at a bar and the occasional Radiant Host wielding chakrams.

I feel the current system's perfect since the new jobs still get job quests. The issue with xiv is they stopped adding job lore after job quests. Even those encyclopedias don't add any new lore.

So long as NEW jobs continue to get quests I don't feel like the old ones really need new quests/lore. Though there are some missed opportunities like no dancer quest in Thavnair.

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Originally Posted by Rekh

I feel the current system's perfect din e the new jobs still get job quests. The issue with xiv is they stopped adding job lore afyer job quests. Even those encyclopedias don't add any new lore.

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This is due to our character no longer learning from the majority of the job stones. We have been imprinting onto the stones for awhile now. Unless you main Machinist then you've always have been. Heck Dragoon started to imprint on theirs with the HW story as we were coming up with moves no Ishgardian taught lance wielding person had been taught. Partly thanks to being an adventurer and going up against a variety of other lance users. The other having been taught by the lancer's guild in Gridania. That and some storylines felt like they had real nice closure at the end of their Stormblood stories.

I'm fine with them bringing back job quests, but please don't tie them to our abilities again. Having to drop what you're doing to get an essential skill wasn't fun.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I understand why they stopped with job quests. It's not very sustainable in the long run.

That being said... Instead of an obligation every expansion, I wish we actually had optional job quests when it made sense. For example, imagine a DNC quest chain in their homeland Thavnair. I feel it's kind of sad that we got to see the place and there's barely any lore referencing Dancers over there. Just a temple, a couple of dancers as background character at a bar and the occasional Radiant Host wielding chakrams.

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I agree… that seemed like a missed opportunity. I don’t think we really even had a side quest along those lines.

I get that there’s too many jobs to do multiple quests for all of them each expansion. And like another poster said, having to stop the MSQ to go do your skill quest was annoying… but maybe let us have one quest per expansion where we either touch base with our old contacts or get some juicy new job lore!

For Picto, one thing we haven’t had in awhile that I’m hoping we get is an actual guild hall… there’s tons of those empty round buildings in Gridania that could be perfect as an artist’s studio for whomever our quest giver turns out to be. But I’m expecting it’s probably going to be a Moogle somehow. lol

I miss job quests...I never thought I'd say it. I don't miss skills being locked behind them though...

No thanks. I dont want another 5+ quests for 15+ jobs every ten levels

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Originally Posted by Raikai

That being said... Instead of an obligation every expansion, I wish we actually had optional job quests when it made sense. For example, imagine a DNC quest chain in their homeland Thavnair. I feel it's kind of sad that we got to see the place and there's barely any lore referencing Dancers over there. Just a temple, a couple of dancers as background character at a bar and the occasional Radiant Host wielding chakrams.

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Couldn't agree more. AST's job quests showed relentless assassination attempts approved by the forum, only to not have a single mention of that storyline in Sharlayan.

It's hard to imagine them giving the go-ahead for such an extreme measure to stop astrology being taught outside their borders after you complete EW, and would've been cool to see a questline tackle that.

We have too many jobs. It's not only getting more tedious for devs to create job quests for all the jobs, it's tedious for players to get through them all (so many people would just put them off anyway and if they have an important action they would put them off until max level).

In general, you can catch up with your job NPCs by speaking with them after each expansion and sometimes you can catch up with NPCs in seasonal events.

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Originally Posted by AvalonBright

It's really disappointing to constantly now just guess how we've come across skills.

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They found it tedious and limiting to have to make a quest center around a new action you're about to learn. Sometimes it was extraordinarily hard to pull off a story about an action/ability.

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And yes, I know there've been comments made that "Oh, the WoL has surpassed anyone who could teach them anything" and "Oh, the WoL is just forging their own path now"

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That's how I choose to see it. But the lore is that the Soul Crystals project memories of others who had it and you learn them that way. Like when you see a vision from Ardbert's gang's crystals.

I understand why with 21 jobs it would be onerous to continue. I do miss a lot of the NPCs involved and interacting with them as mentors or fellow practitioners of a given art in job quests. Seeing so many in Ilsabard was nice, but not the same.

I just want more job lore. Lapis Manalis was great for adding lore to RPRs. I would love to get more stuff like that for every job. Things that are optional and don't lock essential actions behind them but there for people who want to learn more about the job in universe.

And what are you willing to give up development of to allow them the room to make these quests?

What if once per expansion you got a letter or note from some of the people you met along the way just keeping you up to date on what's going on. Maybe a little still art. It wouldn't have to be much. It could be something akin to the ShB post-Alliance Raid content, even though I didn't find that particular story compelling, it would be low effort on SE's part.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

And what are you willing to give up development of to allow them the room to make these quests?

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Can I give up the chunk of the budget that goes to wonderful projects like "Foamstars"?