Are massive groups allowed to farm FATES?

Are massive groups farming FATES allowed? Jw if this is allowed or not. I haven't been able to do multiple because a group of at least 30+ people, at least that's what it looks like, are tagging everything. A lot of us cant participate in them now.

Fates are supposed to scale the more people do them, so technically speaking yes, it's allowed. Why wouldn't it be? It's an open world event.

Overworld content is overworld content. There's no such thing as an early pull or an early kill. If you don't want to join one of the groups, wait until things calm down.

What I did last time was wait a week or 2, because it was absolutely no fun the 1st few days.
Instead of doing fates one by one everyone just did everything at once and blue maging legends were one shotting fates like pricks.
I did it later and it was much more enjoyable.

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Originally Posted by Rehayem

Fates are supposed to scale the more people do them, so technically speaking yes, it's allowed. Why wouldn't it be? It's an open world event.

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I was just curious. It just crossed my mind when I kept encountering them. SE seems to be pretty strict with a lot of things that other games allow.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

Overworld content is overworld content. There's no such thing as an early pull or an early kill. If you don't want to join one of the groups, wait until things calm down.

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I was just curious because it crossed my mind. SE seems to be strict with a lot of things other games allow.

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Originally Posted by DemonicDoll

I was just curious. It just crossed my mind when I kept encountering them. SE seems to be pretty strict with a lot of things that other games allow.

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I see, but it doesn't make sense, since it's not like older MMORPGs where kill stealing was a common thing. Even if you whack one mob and get a bronze rating, it still counts towards the Yokai event. Guild Wars 2 has also those open world events (basically fates), the difference is that your level is scaled down to the map rather than the event. In fairness, I think SE should implement auto-sync for higher level players the moment they enter the fate.

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Originally Posted by DemonicDoll

I was just curious. It just crossed my mind when I kept encountering them. SE seems to be pretty strict with a lot of things that other games allow.

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Is this a serious comment? Actually asking, not trolling since I havent heard this before. What exactly do they do that is strict?

I personally think they turn a blind eye to a lot that goes on in this game outside of the development side of things.

This was a problem in ARR, so FATEs were altered so that boss HP and enemy numbers increase based on the amount of people that fought it (or a linked FATE) the last time. It is also why they unlinked certain FATEs such as the Hildibrand one.

SE knew this would happen, because farming FATEs is literally what they asked us to do for the Yokai event. It was like that when there were previous versions of the event, or new relic steps involving FATEs.

FFXIV is an MMORPG. If people weren't allowed to do at least some content as large groups it feels like it would be kind of defeating the purpose of making such a game.

I followed large group doing fates other day. Made getting my 2 weapons easy and fast. You should been here in ARR, fates were how ones would level up and there were huge groups of players running them. Huge groups are not against the rules or all those running hunt trains would be in trouble. Maybe join a fate party or create one for running fates.

https://youtu.be/WFHugKDdpwk?t=428

huge fate farming groups was the norm in ARR. so yes, its allowed. People just dont do fates much anymore cause they been nerfed hard as they used to be comparable to dungeon exp.

Of Course it is allowed. It is just hard to do Fates needed for the Event currently because blue mages Delete them before the normal Jobs can even Tag them. Playing Tank can mitigate that.

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Originally Posted by Rehayem

Fates are supposed to scale the more people do them, so technically speaking yes, it's allowed. Why wouldn't it be? It's an open world event.

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No they dont, fates dont scale. If they scaled, specific hard fates would be even harder with lots of people, instead they become easier.

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Originally Posted by DemonicDoll

Are massive groups farming FATES allowed? Jw if this is allowed or not. I haven't been able to do multiple because a group of at least 30+ people, at least that's what it looks like, are tagging everything. A lot of us cant participate in them now.

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Just find other fates or camp fate areas so your group can do them. There's a lot of people so it will be hard to please everyone.

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Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard

No they dont, fates dont scale. If they scaled, specific hard fates would be even harder with lots of people, instead they become easier.



Just find other fates or camp fate areas so your group can do them. There's a lot of people so it will be hard to please everyone.

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Incorrect.

They have scaled based off number of participants since at least 2015. You might want to look into that.

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Originally Posted by Rehayem

In fairness, I think SE should implement auto-sync for higher level players the moment they enter the fate.

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That's already required, isn't it?

Edit: Oh, are you talking about the event fates, specifically?

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Originally Posted by LordMcMutton

That's already required, isn't it?

Edit: Oh, are you talking about the event fates, specifically?

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I think they mean instead of having to choose to level sync, have it auto-sync so you can just start hitting mobs right away

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Originally Posted by IslingrHashslinger

I think they mean instead of having to choose to level sync, have it auto-sync so you can just start hitting mobs right away

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I'm of the opinion that would be a bad idea. Between maps, A / S ranks, etc., it would cause more problems then it would solve.

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Originally Posted by Menriq

I'm of the opinion that would be a bad idea. Between maps, A / S ranks, etc., it would cause more problems then it would solve.

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I agree with you. I was just trying to clarify for the roe above

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Originally Posted by IslingrHashslinger

I think they mean instead of having to choose to level sync, have it auto-sync so you can just start hitting mobs right away

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Last event, I made a special macro which dismounts me, turns on level sync, and casts an AOE. Replace Unleash with whatever AOE instant-cast ability you have:

/mount <wait.1>
/levelsync on
/ac Unleash

This helps a ton with getting a tag in before the FATE is over. Modify as needed.

I sure do wonder what MMO standsfor

Allowed? Yes. A bit of a d*ck move? Also yes.

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Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard

No they dont, fates dont scale. If they scaled, specific hard fates would be even harder with lots of people, instead they become easier.

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FATEs absolutely do scale. However, each FATE scales based on how many people participated in that specific FATE the last time it popped, not how many people are participating now or how many people are participating in other FATEs.

wtf is this thread

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