The lvl 50 Archer ==> Bard transition is so weird!

Still new-ish to the game. Was loving game play and the amazing lore and the mind-boggling graphics. Got really invested in my Midlander Hyur Archer. But once I hit lvl 50 and activated the Bard soul stone and acquired all the pieces of gear, NGL, I almost cried.

What was once an awesome and formidable Archer, deadly and yet elegant is now a buffoonish clown-like reject from RuPaul's Drag Race (I can see her contemptuously wave her hand and proclaim, "sashay away"). I look and feel like the unholy bastard daughter of Sir Elton John and Liberace. Flamboyance doesn't even begin to describe this new "look."

I've haven't played since the Bard transition. I'm reluctant to reroll another character. I suppose that a lvl 50 Gladiator would be transformed into a Frozen Yogurt Push Cart Vendor. I mean, why not?

I don't really feel like addressing a lot of those comments, but FYI DoW/DoM classes turn into jobs at level 30, not 50. By doing the level 30 job quests you unlock the soul crystals to equip jobs at 30. If you're waiting all the way until 50 to equip a job people are going to get angry at you in duties.

Time for you to unlock the glamour dresser and dress to the appearance you like. The Bard AF is definitely polarizing.

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Originally Posted by Januaria81

Still new-ish to the game. Was loving game play and the amazing lore and the mind-boggling graphics. Got really invested in my Midlander Hyur Archer. But once I hit lvl 50 and activated the Bard soul stone and acquired all the pieces of gear, NGL, I almost cried.

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I know it's bait but I'll bite:

You should have started the transition at lvl 30 instead of lvl 50 and it wouldn't have been so jarring.

I see you're a Level 30 Thaumaturge. Please don't wait until you're 50 to unlock Black Mage

It's a bait but like... Is bard really that gay? Bard mains please answer so I might consider switching. I really need to know

You don't have to wait until level 50 to view the AF gear. It's part of the character creation screens.

The 2.0 FFXIV trailer has a Female Miqo'te Bard sporting the gear as well.

Using a bit of common sense, players can know exactly what their character will look like wearing the level 50 AF gear before they step into the game.

I still use the hand gear for glamour.

Also, players will basically wear the gear only until they get enough Poetics to purchase the iLevel 130 Augmented Ironworks gear piece by piece.

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Originally Posted by Theox

It's a bait but like... Is bard really that gay? Bard mains please answer so I might consider switching. I really need to know

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Not particularly :)

There's plenty of gear you can glamour that's more interesting. I would suggest, for example, the Immortal Flames gear from the Hunt NPC. The Flame Elite's loincloth for mages ... the skirt for non-mages.

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Originally Posted by Januaria81

Still new-ish to the game. Was loving game play and the amazing lore and the mind-boggling graphics. Got really invested in my Midlander Hyur Archer. But once I hit lvl 50 and activated the Bard soul stone and acquired all the pieces of gear, NGL, I almost cried.

What was once an awesome and formidable Archer, deadly and yet elegant is now a buffoonish clown-like reject from RuPaul's Drag Race (I can see her contemptuously wave her hand and proclaim, "sashay away"). I look and feel like the unholy bastard daughter of Sir Elton John and Liberace. Flamboyance doesn't even begin to describe this new "look."

I've haven't played since the Bard transition. I'm reluctant to reroll another character. I suppose that a lvl 50 Gladiator would be transformed into a Frozen Yogurt Push Cart Vendor. I mean, why not?

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Interesting font choice..

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Originally Posted by Theox

It's a bait but like... Is bard really that gay? Bard mains please answer so I might consider switching. I really need to know

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Phys Range is the gayest role. Join us

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Originally Posted by Theox

It's a bait but like... Is bard really that gay? Bard mains please answer so I might consider switching. I really need to know

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any job can be gay tbh. bard happens to have some flamboyant glamming options if you like that

Unironically, they need to make BRD 'gayer' by changing the 'Straight Shot Ready' proc to something that makes more sense to be used by both Shadowbite, and Refulgent Arrow. Perhaps the new proc could be called 'Barraged Shot Ready' or something.

So, a job called “bard” wearing flamboyant colors and styles is shocking…how?

Also also as said, glamour away.

Ok, problem solved: I just re-equipped my Archer gear. Easy peasy.

Besides, 2" kitten heels seemed like inappropriate footwear for combat. I would've settled for sensible ballet flats or 3" stacked heels, but I really hate kitten heels, they are just ugly.

Considering we got Viper which somewhat fills that aspect folks wanted from Rogue maybe well get a proper ranged hunter, it wont be using a bow but crossbow is still up in the air.

what in the world are "kitten heels" ?

edit: well i googled it and learned there are a /lot/ of different types of heels. (i feel sympathy for anyone who wears heels)

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Originally Posted by Januaria81

What was once an awesome and formidable Archer, deadly and yet elegant is now a buffoonish clown-like reject

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Archer turning into a music harp player is weird and seems like a stretch, but fortunately it continues to play mostly like an Archer. If you want to just think of it as an Archer and not use harp-like glamours for your weapon, then it still feels alright, unlike the Rogue>Ninja transition which is more transformative.

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I've haven't played since the Bard transition. I'm reluctant to reroll another character.

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You can play other class/jobs on the same character.

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I suppose that a lvl 50 Gladiator would be transformed into a Frozen Yogurt Push Cart Vendor. I mean, why not?

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Into Paladin. Which is rather similar, except they don't waste their time fighting in a colosseum and are more concerned with protecting others when things are peaceful, and fighting on the battle field when they're not.

Bard is amazing in my view. I've been a Bard main since 2.0 and love it. They did it bad back in Heavensward 3.0 but then fixed it in 4.0 (so you dodged that bullet). I've got all combat jobs to 90 and it's still favourite by a long shot even now :)

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Originally Posted by Januaria81

Still new-ish to the game. Was loving game play and the amazing lore and the mind-boggling graphics. Got really invested in my Midlander Hyur Archer. But once I hit lvl 50 and activated the Bard soul stone and acquired all the pieces of gear, NGL, I almost cried.

What was once an awesome and formidable Archer, deadly and yet elegant is now a buffoonish clown-like reject from RuPaul's Drag Race (I can see her contemptuously wave her hand and proclaim, "sashay away"). I look and feel like the unholy bastard daughter of Sir Elton John and Liberace. Flamboyance doesn't even begin to describe this new "look."

I've haven't played since the Bard transition. I'm reluctant to reroll another character. I suppose that a lvl 50 Gladiator would be transformed into a Frozen Yogurt Push Cart Vendor. I mean, why not?

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There's this thing called "glamour." You may wish to look into it. It'll solve your issue in no time!

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Originally Posted by Januaria81

Ok, problem solved: I just re-equipped my Archer gear. Easy peasy.

Besides, 2" kitten heels seemed like inappropriate footwear for combat. I would've settled for sensible ballet flats or 3" stacked heels, but I really hate kitten heels, they are just ugly.

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As others have said, just glamour your gear's appearence with more ARC seeming attire if you don't like the minstrel appearence of BRD AF (I admit I'm partial to the hat myself :D), you're not locked to the default style of each piece of gear (in fact glamour is the true endgame, no matter what others say!) - the quest to unlock the glamour system is this easy quest.

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Originally Posted by Theox

It's a bait but like... Is bard really that gay? Bard mains please answer so I might consider switching. I really need to know

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Guydelot and Sanson are canon and you can't convince me otherwise.

bard quest spoiler:

even the NPC say they act like an old married couple.

So yes.

2.0 Bard AF is bad. 3.0 and 4.0 are good. 5.0 and 6.0 are meh.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

I see you're a Level 30 Thaumaturge. Please don't wait until you're 50 to unlock Black Mage

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Myeah, it's not like ARR days where Jobs only gave five skills (for BLM it was: Convert, Freeze, Apocatastasis, Manawall and Flare) and Classes got most of the tools (where people would go "You're not complete dead weight, but we recommend you unlock your job" and not "you're literally dead weight, unlock the job ASAP"). EW THM doesn't even get Blizzard III and Thunder III any more (they're Job Quest spells now). They just... forgot how to cast them over the years.